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03-05-2013, 01:04 PM
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If the Bruins' scouts were scouting players from the Kings and/or Predators last night regarding a possible imminent trade, do you think any of these players are available, would be sufficient upgrades to the Bruins roster, and would fit in with the Bruins style of play?

Forwards:
Patric Hornqvist - 26 yrs old, $3,083,333, RFA at season's end
Nick Spaling - 24 yrs old, $1,050,000, RFA at season's end
Dwight King - 23 yrs old, $750,000 this year and next, RFA at end of next season

Defenseman:
Alec Martinez - 25 yrs old, $737,500, RFA at season's end
Scott Hannan - 34 yrs old, $1,000,000, UFA at season's end

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If the Bruins' scouts were scouting players from the Kings and/or Predators last night regarding a possible imminent trade, do you think any of these players are available, would be sufficient upgrades to the Bruins roster, and would fit in with the Bruins style of play?

Forwards:
Patric Hornqvist - 26 yrs old, $3,083,333, RFA at season's end
Nick Spaling - 24 yrs old, $1,050,000, RFA at season's end
Dwight King - 23 yrs old, $750,000 this year and next, RFA at end of next season

Defenseman:
Alec Martinez - 25 yrs old, $737,500, RFA at season's end
Scott Hannan - 34 yrs old, $1,000,000, UFA at season's end
I like Hornquist ... kind of a Holmstrom type. King's a good Saskie kid, but don't see how he's an upgrade anywhere unless Paille gets 3rd line and he plays with Campbell/Thornton ... good depth guy though. Wouldn't be surprised at Hannan as some vet depth.

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03-05-2013, 01:19 PM
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If the Bruins' scouts were scouting players from the Kings and/or Predators last night regarding a possible imminent trade, do you think any of these players are available, would be sufficient upgrades to the Bruins roster, and would fit in with the Bruins style of play?

Forwards:
Patric Hornqvist - 26 yrs old, $3,083,333, RFA at season's end
Nick Spaling - 24 yrs old, $1,050,000, RFA at season's end
Dwight King - 23 yrs old, $750,000 this year and next, RFA at end of next season

Defenseman:
Alec Martinez - 25 yrs old, $737,500, RFA at season's end
Scott Hannan - 34 yrs old, $1,000,000, UFA at season's end
love to see King on the Bruins. brings grit and scoring ability to the 3rd line

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03-05-2013, 01:47 PM
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You don't fool me, the greatest trick the devil ever played was making people believe he didn't exist.
how do you shoot the devil in the back? what if you miss?

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how do you shoot the devil in the back? what if you miss?
we talking New Jersey ones or Lucifer who can deliver Iginla or Alfredsson for about 15 games and playoffs with no guarantees of a Cup for the Bruins soul

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Another choice gone with Weiss out.
Bruins may have a hard time to find any quality players on the trade front that will make them a Stanley Cup contender.
Less than a month until deadline.
The Bruins are not only a Stanley Cup Contender, but a favorite without making one move at all. Currently 3rd in Vegas odds behind only Chicago & Pittsburgh.

2nd in the league in Point %.
2nd in goal differential. (Most important thing in winning).
1st in PK.
1st in Faceoffs.
9th in Goals for per game
4th in Goals against per game
5th in 5 on 5 differential
2nd in shots for per game
8th in shots against per game
2nd in shots for/against differential

All of this knowing they haven't played their best.

The Bruins have 1 weakness - the Powerplay - and it is the least important thing in winning than everything I mentioned above.

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The Bruins are not only a Stanley Cup Contender, but a favorite without making one move at all. Currently 3rd in Vegas odds behind only Chicago & Pittsburgh.

2nd in the league in Point %.
2nd in goal differential. (Most important thing in winning).
1st in PK.
1st in Faceoffs.
9th in Goals for per game
4th in Goals against per game
5th in 5 on 5 differential
2nd in shots for per game
8th in shots against per game
2nd in shots for/against differential

All of this knowing they haven't played their best.

The Bruins have 1 weakness - the Powerplay - and it is the least important thing in winning than everything I mentioned above.
Don't reallty agree there. If we leave March unscathed injury-wise, I'll be shocked. Regardless, we don't win a Cup with this top 12, IMO. Need one more solid forward, at the least. And, we need Ference to make it to the finish line without puking his cookies.

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03-05-2013, 02:56 PM
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You don't fool me, the greatest trick the devil ever played was making people believe he didn't exist.
But the worst deal he ever made was Johnny Blaze!

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we talking New Jersey ones or Lucifer who can deliver Iginla or Alfredsson for about 15 games and playoffs with no guarantees of a Cup for the Bruins soul
I think he's talking about the one that's going to make Spooner turn the PP into a powerhouse

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love to see King on the Bruins. brings grit and scoring ability to the 3rd line
King has 6 career NHL goals.

Grit, definitely ... scoring ... not so much.

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03-05-2013, 03:28 PM
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King has 6 career NHL goals.

Grit, definitely ... scoring ... not so much.
over Bourque would be a upgrade . But would grab him so Thorton could have nights off

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over Bourque would be a upgrade . But would grab him so Thorton could have nights off
Are you thinking DJ King?

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I think he's talking about the one that's going to make Spooner turn the PP into a powerhouse
that would be Don Sweeney and Jim Benning....I guess Chiarelli can trump those two, we'll see

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Are you thinking DJ King?
yeah aren't they the same guy? DJ is his nickname i thought

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yeah aren't they the same guy? DJ is his nickname i thought
They are brothers.

Dwight is big, but doesn't fight much

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But the worst deal he ever made was Johnny Blaze!
Calgary traded Brett Hull for Rob Ramage but Ramage was a very solid defenseman- sort of Seidenbergish, and Hull was nothing

but Calgary made up for it when they traded Joe Nieuwendyk for Jermone Iginla at the time just a prospect

so it works out- you give up Hull and he goes on to score 700 goals, but devil returns the favor and gets you Jerome Iginla.

atleast the Flames getting Ramage and the Stars getting Nieuwendyk had them longer than 15 regular season games and whatever playoffs

the ones that irked me were Reggie Leach and Rick McLeish in separate deals for decent players (Walton was a third liner capable of playing second but was part of the Eagleson stable and where the trade was hatched) and Carol Vandais was a figment of the great Sam Pollack drafting machine. He was a decent player but very overrated. Leach and MacLeish were the 3rd and 4th overall picks in a strong draft.

Had Boston kept them (and MacLeish was told at OK City he would not be traded) the Bruins would have won probably 8-10 Cups instead of two.

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Calgary traded Brett Hull for Rob Ramage but Ramage was a very solid defenseman- sort of Seidenbergish, and Hull was nothing

but Calgary made up for it when they traded Joe Nieuwendyk for Jermone Iginla at the time just a prospect

so it works out- you give up Hull and he goes on to score 700 goals, but devil returns the favor and gets you Jerome Iginla.

atleast the Flames getting Ramage and the Stars getting Nieuwendyk had them longer than 15 regular season games and whatever playoffs

the ones that irked me were Reggie Leach and Rick McLeish in separate deals for decent players (Walton was a third liner capable of playing second but was part of the Eagleson stable and where the trade was hatched) and Carol Vandais was a figment of the great Sam Pollack drafting machine. He was a decent player but very overrated. Leach and MacLeish were the 3rd and 4th overall picks in a strong draft.

Had Boston kept them (and MacLeish was told at OK City he would not be traded) the Bruins would have won probably 8-10 Cups instead of two.
Those moves still irk me to this day.

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Calgary traded Brett Hull for Rob Ramage but Ramage was a very solid defenseman- sort of Seidenbergish, and Hull was nothing

but Calgary made up for it when they traded Joe Nieuwendyk for Jermone Iginla at the time just a prospect

so it works out- you give up Hull and he goes on to score 700 goals, but devil returns the favor and gets you Jerome Iginla.

atleast the Flames getting Ramage and the Stars getting Nieuwendyk had them longer than 15 regular season games and whatever playoffs

the ones that irked me were Reggie Leach and Rick McLeish in separate deals for decent players (Walton was a third liner capable of playing second but was part of the Eagleson stable and where the trade was hatched) and Carol Vandais was a figment of the great Sam Pollack drafting machine. He was a decent player but very overrated. Leach and MacLeish were the 3rd and 4th overall picks in a strong draft.

Had Boston kept them (and MacLeish was told at OK City he would not be traded) the Bruins would have won probably 8-10 Cups instead of two.
The Flames undid the Hull mistake with St. Louis by getting Doug Gilmour for Mike Bullard only months later.

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[QUOTE=sjaustin77;61016937]The Bruins are not only a Stanley Cup Contender, but a favorite without making one move at all. Currently 3rd in Vegas odds behind only Chicago & Pittsburgh.

2nd in the league in Point %.
2nd in goal differential. (Most important thing in winning).
1st in PK.
1st in Faceoffs.
9th in Goals for per game
4th in Goals against per game
5th in 5 on 5 differential
2nd in shots for per game
8th in shots against per game
2nd in shots for/against differential

All of this knowing they haven't played their best.

The Bruins have 1 weakness - the Powerplay - and it is the least important thing in winning than everything I mentioned above.[/QUOTE]

A few things that are hard to agree with.

They lack a pure goal scorer.
They need someone to quarterback the powerplay.
They have a need for a third line LW.
They could use another strong defenseman.
They need some reinforcements in case of injuries.

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Fair enough, but I'd at least like those guys to improve their +/-. If you're defensively responsible, I don't think maintaining a positive +/- is too much to ask. Last year, Kelly was a +33. Currently, he's -4 and pevs is -6. Defensive responsibility is a moot point if a line is still going negative, at least in my opinion.

You're right. Kelly and Peverly/the third line are not playing up to their standard. But it seems like the line has been incomplete since the season began.

I'm hoping the Bruins find the right partner for K & P soon and that their overall effectiveness improves substantially.

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hopefully with all the Bruins scouts out in the western area its a smoke screen to snag Weiss from Florida. would be alot cheaper to get than Iginla,Alfredson,etc

I read today that Weiss is having wrist surgery and is out for the season.

https://twitter.com/FlaPanthers/stat...70904975712257

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I read today that Weiss is having wrist surgery and is out for the season.

https://twitter.com/FlaPanthers/stat...70904975712257
i know i heard earlier. thought he would have been perfect fit. wouldn't have cost much to get either

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The Bruins are not only a Stanley Cup Contender, but a favorite without making one move at all. Currently 3rd in Vegas odds behind only Chicago & Pittsburgh.

2nd in the league in Point %.
2nd in goal differential. (Most important thing in winning).
1st in PK.
1st in Faceoffs.
9th in Goals for per game
4th in Goals against per game
5th in 5 on 5 differential
2nd in shots for per game
8th in shots against per game
2nd in shots for/against differential

All of this knowing they haven't played their best.

The Bruins have 1 weakness - the Powerplay - and it is the least important thing in winning than everything I mentioned above.[/QUOTE]

A few things that are hard to agree with.

They lack a pure goal scorer.
They need someone to quarterback the powerplay.
They have a need for a third line LW.
They could use another strong defenseman.
They need some reinforcements in case of injuries.
Shake your head all you want, I've done the research. Powerplay is less important for a cup winner and cup finalists than everything I mentioned. The B's winning % and Vegas disagree with you that the Bruins aren't already a cup favorite nevermind contender.

As to your things that are hard to agree with.

You don't need a pure goal scorer to win and Marchand and Seguin are just fine in that regard.
Hamilton can QB the powerplay and again it isn't that important compared to everything else the B's do well.
Most teams could use a better 3rd liner. What they are scoring this year is what 3rd lines usually do.
All teams could use another strong defenseman.
All teams need reinforcements in case of injuries.

The Bruins are just as well prepared if someone goes down as anyone else. They are a cup favorite right now without making a single move. 3rd by Vegas odds. 2nd by Pts %.

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The Bruins are not only a Stanley Cup Contender, but a favorite without making one move at all. Currently 3rd in Vegas odds behind only Chicago & Pittsburgh.

2nd in the league in Point %.
2nd in goal differential. (Most important thing in winning).
1st in PK.
1st in Faceoffs.
9th in Goals for per game
4th in Goals against per game
5th in 5 on 5 differential
2nd in shots for per game
8th in shots against per game
2nd in shots for/against differential

All of this knowing they haven't played their best.

The Bruins have 1 weakness - the Powerplay - and it is the least important thing in winning than everything I mentioned above.

Thanks for the logic and reason you bring to these discussions. Every year I look at goal differential as an indicator of where the Bruins are in relation to other teams. It always works.

The Bruins are a strong team right now, whether or not they make adjustments to the line-up. Some tweaking could help but they certainly don't need any major changes.

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The Bruins are a legit Cup contender right now- however, the injury bug is the only thing that can derail them....they could beat anyone in a 7 game series starting right now

to me, it is about getting a couple of legit NHL responsible bottom 6 guys like Matt Hendricks who can put a constant beating on the defense and wear them down while playing well so the Bruins top 6 can take over the game

does anyone remember the ass kicking those bottom tier guys the Caps had last year did to Boston in the playoffs....that is what we need. If Chris Bourque is not a top 9 then I'm sorry he's really not a bottom 6 (fuzzy math but you know what I mean) in a game of no check Chris Bourque would school Matt Hendricks but I hate to say it, I'd do that deal in 2 seconds

I want our 4th line to be big, strong, heavy on the puck, responsible- I want 4 into 3...and Paille can be a swing guy....also sure the Kelly line has struggled but they were all over Montreal for a the first two periods and Kelly was set up with 2 great chances he got posts...and Peverely had a super chance he'd score more than not.

forget the damn statues and get a damn animal back there who is going to rock the other teams defense like the Caps did in the playoff to ours

how can people forget this- stars are great to look at on summer nights, but give me a bunch pack of wolves who have strength and will come at teams from every conceivable angle

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