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03-03-2013, 05:08 PM
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Boston Bruins' Report Card

I imagine some of you remember Kevin Mannix of the Boston Herald. He was a sports writer who I got to know pretty well. A really nice guy and a talented writer. He created the “Report Card” for the New England Patriots. This is my version for the Bruins.

Bruins Report Card: The grades (F to A+) are based on my expectations going into the season. So, a “B” is a good grade and essentially meeting expectations. You know the rest.

Player, Grade, Comment

Krecji, A-, Great so far but still some upside
Lucic, B+, A little better than expected, especially his skating and passing
Horton, B+, Nice bounce-back season, so far
Bergeron, B, High expectations, strong results
Marchand, A, He is the Little Ball of Talent!
Seguin, C, I expected more and still do
Kelly, D, Wake up!
Peverley, C, He’s coming around, but he needs to be better
Bourque, D, I was patient and hopeful, but he’s not fast enough or strong enough
Campbell, B, Everything I expected
Paille, B, see above, but he should never skate on the top two lines
Thornton, C+, I hope he rounds into shape after the concussion
Chara, B, Started slow but has now reached expectations
Boychuk, B, Solid season
Seidenberg, A-, he’s our D-rock
Hamilton, A+, Wow! Remarkable potential; already top-3 D, PP quarterback
McQuaid, C, I thought he would step up this year, but he’s stepped back slightly
Ference, F, He has been terrible. He may be the reason McQuaid has slipped
Rask, A, Even better than expected
Khudobin, B, If he didn’t have to play against the Sabres, probably a better grade

Julien, A-, I like that he knows the team isn’t playing all that well, but he needs to get them to the next level.

Entire Team, B+, Can’t argue with the results, but they’re not playing as well as they can.

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Krecji, A+, For someone under pressure of being traded, he has done very well.
Lucic, A-, Beter than expected. Was worried about his conditioning
Horton, A-, Good to see him back after the concussion
Bergeron, A, Strong as ever
Marchand, A+, Scores big goals
Seguin, B-, a bit of a slow start
Kelly, D, Awful start to his season. Hope he breaks out of this slump.
Peverley, C-, He needs to be better or I hope he is traded
Bourque, D-,I know he is an AHL player and he is proving it. End the Experiment!!
Campbell, B, Playing fairly decent
Paille, B+, If he could only improve his stone hands
Thornton, D, I hope he rounds into shape after the concussion
Chara, B, Slow Start. Concussion didn't help, but his days in Boston are numbered.
Boychuk, B, Please shoot more
Seidenberg, A, He is solid as ever
Hamilton, A+, Incredible for a 19 year rookie. PP quarterback and big point getter.
McQuaid, C-, Not overly impressed this year
Ference, D, He might be done in Boston as well.
Rask, A+, Better than expected
Khudobin, B-, Need to see more of him to see how he does.

Julien, B+, Okay, but I still am not crazy for his systems. His love for Bourque has not impressed me.

Jeff Ward, F Brutal powerplay and he should take a lot of the blame for not developing new and better PP arrangements.

Entire Team, B+, Good results, but many games they have won with the slimmest of margins. Would like to see a few additions that would make this team a powerhouse.

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Player, Grade, Comment

Krecji, A-, One of our top players, but has slowed down a bit. Still slows down the game better than anyone.
Lucic, B+, Been great. Not perfect but is looking better than I expected.
Horton, B, Solid. Better than I expected but could still produce more.
Bergeron, B+, Had a slow start but has been elite the past few games.
Marchand, A+, Seriously showing that he has elite talent and always has. Just a streaky player but he has kept it up.
Seguin, B-, Getting better offensively as time goes on and has become a serious two way player.
Kelly, C-, He would be an F if it wasn't for his elite defensive play.
Peverley, C+, Pretty average all around to be honest.
Bourque, D, I have wanted him to succeed but he is just too weak.
Campbell, B-, Some sloppiness but overall just being Campbell.
Paille, A, Has done more than asked for. Serious talent with no hands whatsoever.
Thornton, D, I hate to say it, but he has been pretty bad.
Chara, B, Stepping up his game from a slow start.
Boychuk, A-, Been one of our best defensemen. Solid as hell, and I have never been that big of a fan.
Seidenberg, A, Can't really ask much more.
Hamilton, A-, I would rate him higher if he was used to his potential. Some defensive lapses but it is understandable. Needs more PP time. He seriously has top tier hockey IQ. I think in 5 years him and Karlsson will have some of the best peaks for d-men in hockey history.
McQuaid, C-, Not the worst nor the best. He seems to be getting better.
Ference, F, Easily the worst on the team. The last few games were alright but he won't be back next season sadly.
Rask, A+, Vezina candidate for sure. He is proving that he is elite.
Khudobin, B, Don't know what to say other than he has been good.

Julien, A-, Doing what needs to be done. Coaching a team that just finds a way to win no matter what. That leads me to believe they could win a cup but he needs to fix the PP.

Entire Team, B, It really seems to be a mix of players being amazing and some mediocrity. There needs to be some tweaking.

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Krecji, A He hasn't pulled a big disappearing act yet
Lucic, B+ Missing some of the "nasty" to his game, although been better with that lately
Horton, B+ Floats a bit, but still coming through clutch and putting up goals
Bergeron, B+
Marchand, A+ Unbelievable
Seguin, C+ Good effort but the points need to be there also
Kelly, F Has been horrid offensively, only good defensively and no defensive forward is worth as much as he is making with a NTC
Peverley, C I like his play lately, just needs to get some points and not be playing with Bourque and Kelly
Bourque, D Trying hard but he just doesn't fit, especially on the point on PP
Campbell B -- No comment really, he is meeting expectations
Paille, B+ Same as Campbell but can play on the 3rd line as well
Thornton, C Needs to restore our confidence in him with some type of physical play; no fights and few hits since his return
Chara, B+ Chara at his worst is still a top 10 defenseman
Boychuk, B- I'd love to see more Rockets and an open ice hit sometime
Seidenberg, A Doing a great job with Hamilton; I'd actually like to see him on the PP over Bourque all the time
Hamilton, A+ Big surprise from him, very excellent rookie season so far
McQuaid, D Where are the hits, and fights? Nice pass on the Pevs goal yesterday
Ference, D Occasionally looks normal for a few shifts, then back to mistakes right after
Rask, A Still not 100% confident in him yet, but doing great
Khudobin, B Ever since his penalty for playing the puck in the trapezoid I have been worried about him

Julien: B+ He knows what he is doing more than I ever will
PP: C Looking better of late, but still not a real threat althought yesterday was promising
PK: A+ Amazing

Overall: B+ Bruins have yet to play their best game in my mind; no dominatingm 60 minute efforts with the full package of hits, goals, and fights yet. It'll come and then the Bruins will be tough to beat.

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Player, Grade, Comment

Krecji, A+, For someone under pressure of being traded, he has done very well.
Lucic, A-, Beter than expected. Was worried about his conditioning
Horton, A-, Good to see him back after the concussion
Bergeron, A, Strong as ever
Marchand, A+, Scores big goals
Seguin, B-, a bit of a slow start
Kelly, D, Awful start to his season. Hope he breaks out of this slump.
Peverley, C-, He needs to be better or I hope he is traded
Bourque, D-,I know he is an AHL player and he is proving it. End the Experiment!!
Campbell, B, Playing fairly decent
Paille, B+, If he could only improve his stone hands
Thornton, D, I hope he rounds into shape after the concussion
Chara, B, Slow Start. Concussion didn't help, but his days in Boston are numbered.
Boychuk, B, Please shoot more
Seidenberg, A, He is solid as ever
Hamilton, A+, Incredible for a 19 year rookie. PP quarterback and big point getter.
McQuaid, C-, Not overly impressed this year
Ference, D, He might be done in Boston as well.
Rask, A+, Better than expected
Khudobin, B-, Need to see more of him to see how he does.

Julien, B+, Okay, but I still am not crazy for his systems. His love for Bourque has not impressed me.

Jeff Ward, F Brutal powerplay and he should take a lot of the blame for not developing new and better PP arrangements.

Entire Team, B+, Good results, but many games they have won with the slimmest of margins. Would like to see a few additions that would make this team a powerhouse.
Um what?

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Um what?
I was wondering when Chara got the concussion. He was pretty much on with the rest of it.

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Bergeron, A) solid defensively and getting the offence up now too

Bourque, F) Not working out, not an NHL player

Boychuk, B) playing well,

Campbell, C+) fourth line centre is playing like a fourth line centre

Chara, B+) Chara is our number one defencemen, but I haven’t seen Norris form from him yet.

Ference, D) Not playing to the level I’d expect of him

Hamilton, B+) Hamilton has exceeded expectations this season and brings some offence to our blue line. I’d like to see him start playing in more defensive situations before he gets an A.

Horton, B) I think Horton is playing well but I feel like he also has more to give

Kelly, C-) been a disappointment this year, defensively he has done well (60% of faceoffs is great)

Khudobin, C+) Good back up

Krejci, A) Big reason for our hot start at the start of the year, cooled off a bit recently

Lucic, B) See Horton

Marchand, A+) So impressed right now, playing well and playing disciplined hockey, four penalty minutes all year, leading the team in goals. This exceeds my expectations.

McQuaid, C) I like him, but McQuaid can play better

Pallie, B-) done a good job this year

Peverley, C-) See Kelly

Rask, A-) Been amongst our best players all year, but a few shaky games got him down to A-.

Seguin, B+) I don’t buy the garbage said about Seguin earlier, he has been playing well just a bit snake bitten. However, he CAN play better

Seidenberg, A-) he has been solid all year

Thornton, D) been mostly ineffective.

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Um what?
Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

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Chara's days are numbered?

Really?

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We have become overly dependent on the top two lines. Most teams are, but we were the one team that could roll three scoring lines + a fourth line that could go and win shifts on a regular basis. The players on those two lines need to step it up collectively.

First Line (L-K-H), B+
Second Line, A
Third Line, D
Fourth Line, C-

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Lucic B, what I expected really

Krejci A-/B+ pretty amazing so far

Horton B what I expected, although I'd like to point out that he would be on a 30 goal pace thus far

Marchand A+, can't expect much more

Bergeron B, what I expected

Seguin c+, slow start but he's picking it up, if he keeps up his play over the last 10 games, he'll climb quickly

Bourque D, tough one to grade because I didin't expect much, but he's been a no-show pretty much

Kelly D-, he has been absolutely off offensively, hid D work is the saving grace, but at his contract it is fair to expect more.

Peverley C-, 6 points doesn't cut it. I see he isn't surrounded by much this season, but he's supposed to be the dynamic guy on that line.

Paille C, part of a not that good 4th line (see below), but has looked quite useful when filling in on the 3rd line

Campbell D+,the 4th line has been locked into their zone far too much this season, got a + bcause he's a mainstay on our succesful PK

Thornton D, not gonna say he should have beat John Scott, but I don't think he has brought much to our line-up this season.

Zdeno Chara B-: more is expected from him from my POV, although obviously he hasn't been downright bad

johny Boychuck C-: Has looked decidedly average, and ypu shpuld bette rnext to (even a subpar) Zdeno Chara

Dennis Seidenberg B: Part of our best D pairing, seems more confident with the puck

Dougie Hamilton A: Much more poise than I'd have expected, very few defensive brainfarts, and our most intelligent D

Andrew Ference: D-, hasn't looked good at all, stupid penalties and seems to be fighting the puck.

Adam McQuaid C, suffering from his partner and isn't able to handle the puck either

Tuukka Rask A, just a seemless takeover from one #1 goalie to the next, he's been outstanding.

Dobby B+: Everything I expected and the some

Please note that these grades are given out in relation to expectations to each player before the season; otherwise the first liners would all get an A and the 4th liners an F.

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We have become overly dependent on the top two lines. Most teams are, but we were the one team that could roll three scoring lines + a fourth line that could go and win shifts on a regular basis. The players on those two lines need to step it up collectively.

First Line (L-K-H), B+
Second Line, A
Third Line, D
Fourth Line, C-
Can't win.

The Felgers of the world would see them get more top heavy and play the top 6 more heavily, yet the team thrives on balance and rolling four lines.

Bottom line is that there are only so many goals to go around. If your third line is filled with 20 goal scorers, then chances are, you're not going to have a guy on the top line contending for the Rocket Richard Award.

It's great to have a go to guy, but when you rely heavily on one or two lines, you become easier to play against. Look at Pittsburgh. They lose Crosby or Malkin and their season is effectively over.

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Excellent points in the last two posts.

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Sorry- Typing error earlier. Darn I-pad!

Player, Grade, Comment

Krecji, A+, For someone under pressure of being traded, he has done very well.
Lucic, A-, Beter than expected. Was worried about his conditioning
Horton, A-, Good to see him back after the concussion
Bergeron, A, Strong as ever
Marchand, A+, Scores big goals
Seguin, B-, a bit of a slow start
Kelly, D, Awful start to his season. Hope he breaks out of this slump.
Peverley, C-, He needs to be better or I hope he is traded
Bourque, D-,I know he is an AHL player and he is proving it. End the Experiment!!
Campbell, B, Playing fairly decent
Paille, B+, If he could only improve his stone hands
Thornton, D, Slow start and the concussion did not help.
Chara, B+, Has not played his best hockey, but he is still the Bruin's Leader.
Boychuk, B, Please shoot more
Seidenberg, A, He is solid as ever
Hamilton, A+, Incredible for a 19 year rookie. PP quarterback and big point getter.
McQuaid, C-, Not overly impressed this year
Ference, D, He might be done in Boston as well.
Rask, A+, Better than expected
Khudobin, B-, Need to see more of him to see how he does.

Julien, B+, Okay, but I still am not crazy for his systems. His love for Bourque has not impressed me.

Jeff Ward, F Brutal powerplay and he should take a lot of the blame for not developing new and better PP arrangements.

Entire Team, B+, Good results, but many games they have won with the slimmest of margins. Would like to see a few additions that would make this team a powerhouse.

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Krecji, A- so far, he's been doing his yearly Houdini as of late though...
Lucic, A-, He's been scoring and he's been a physical force. No complaints.
Horton, B+, Sometimes is a bit streaky, but he's been better than I thought. Not many complaints.
Bergeron, A, absolutely no complaints.
Marchand, A, Can't argue with 11 goals, 4 of them game winning... Been great defensively, too.
Seguin, B, he's been one of our best players lately but that doesn't make up for his sluggish start.
Kelly, D+, Maybe it's because he set such high expectations after last year, but he hasn't been good at much.
Peverley, C-, His linemates aren't great so far but he hasn't helped too much. He's had his moments.
Bourque, C-, if he was bigger than he'd be great... Unfortunately he's not and that's his huge downfall. Too bad for him, he does show 110% effort every shift though.
Campbell, B, not great but he's certainly done his job.
Paille, B, Shows effort and he's been great.
Thornton, C, post-concussion he's been invisible but he's starting to make those big hits. Coming around again.
Chara, B, couple of bad games, but we saw what happened when he wasn't there last night...
Boychuk, C, lots of mistakes. Other than that ok.
Seidenberg, A-, Only had one bad game so far. Best defenseman.
Hamilton, A, Anything that happens on the PP is a result of him. I thought he was going to be run out of town. He's going to be a star, he's only scratching the surface right now.
McQuaid, B-, been ok, has made a couple of turnovers but he's been a good 3rd pairing guy.
Ference, D-, please leave...
Rask, A, He's had a couple of bad games but he's sure as hell deserved them... Wherever this team goes is going to be a direct result of him.
Khudobin, B, been a very solid backup.

Julien, A, Standings don't lie. 2 points behind Montreal for the conference lead with 3 games in hand.

Entire Team, A-, again, standings don't lie. We're not even playing the best we can yet.

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Krecji, B
Lucic, B
Horton, B+
Bergeron, A
Marchand, A+
Seguin, C+
Kelly, D
Peverley, D
Bourque, D-
Campbell, C+
Paille, A-
Thornton, C+
Chara, B
Boychuk, C+
Seidenberg, B
Hamilton, A-
McQuaid, C-
Ference, C-
Rask, A-
Khudobin, B-

Julien, A

Entire TeamB+

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Krecji, B
Lucic, B
Horton, B+
Bergeron, A
Marchand, A+
Seguin, C+
Kelly, D
Peverley, D
Bourque, D-
Campbell, C+
Paille, A-
Thornton, C+
Chara, B
Boychuk, C+
Seidenberg, B
Hamilton, A-
McQuaid, C-
Ference, C-
Rask, A-
Khudobin, B-

Julien, A

Entire TeamB+
Horton higher than Krecji?

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Halfway thru the season REPORT CARD

Here is how I rate them so far...

Marchand / Bergeron - A

Paille / Krejci / Boychuk / Hamilton - B+

Seguin / Horton / Campbell / Thornton / Chara / Seidenberg / McQuaid - B-

Lucic / Peverley / Ference - C

Kelly - D


At least the right guy got injured if anyone had to...

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Here is how I rate them so far...

Marchand / Bergeron - A

Paille / Krejci / Boychuk / Hamilton - B+

Seguin / Horton / Campbell / Thornton / Chara / Seidenberg / McQuaid - B-

Lucic / Peverley / Ference - C

Kelly - D


At least the right guy got injured if anyone had to...
Horton is a C.

Ference is a C - and so is Lucic. Kelly's a D + Hamiliton's a B just so that way he doesn't get too big of a head

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Here is how I rate them so far...

Marchand / Bergeron - A

Paille / Krejci / Boychuk / Hamilton - B+

Seguin / Horton / Campbell / Thornton / Chara / Seidenberg / McQuaid - B-

Lucic / Peverley / Ference - C

Kelly - D


At least the right guy got injured if anyone had to...
I'd move Seguin and Seidenberg to B+ all things considered.

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I would move Boychuk to a B- or C.

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Not going through the lineup, but Horty is a fat D in my book, disinterested/hesitant/scared, call it what it is, sure doesn`t leave me confident with his play

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Merging this

Please use the search function before creating a new thread.

We just had this same thread a week ago and it gets buried when we create new threads rather than bumping the old ones, which already contain relevant discourse.

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Not going through the lineup, but Horty is a fat D in my book, disinterested/hesitant/scared, call it what it is, sure doesn`t leave me confident with his play
I couldn't disagree more. Horton has looked real good, much better than last season, skating hard, making smart plays, though not scoring enough, it's true.

I would give him a B-, and give Lucic a B at least, by the way.

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I would give Daniel Paille an A: he is having an outstanding season.

Lucic & Horton get Ds: they are playing well below their capabilities.

Pretty much agree with the rest of the OP's choices.

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