Heard baout the this yesterday on Sporsnet but they didn't say what JMFJ has or how long he will be out. I guess it is at least a week. I hope that is it.
Am I the only one thinking: I would not be surprised to see Johansen moved either at the trade deadline or in the offseason.
Not to say that he's been terrible, but he would seem to be one of the few guys with real value despite the poor first half of the season, at least statistically.
Am I the only one thinking: I would not be surprised to see Johansen moved either at the trade deadline or in the offseason.
Not to say that he's been terrible, but he would seem to be one of the few guys with real value despite the poor first half of the season, at least statistically.
I both would be both surprised and not. Anyone who thinks they have a good feel for how JK and JD intend to proceed in assembling a team is fooling themselves. I could sit here and hypothesize on reasons why, why not and when, but the truth is, I don't really have enough to go on. It would be me projecting my own thoughts onto the FO, when I really have no idea what they're thinking.
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i would be shocked...he's played well in springy when he's had quality finishers around him, we just need to get him some line help and he'll be fine
I think he gets a much longer look now. I don't really care to see JAM, Collins, or Drazenovich at this point. I'm not dismissing them, but for the time being we need to really evaluate Joey.
I think he gets a much longer look now. I don't really care to see JAM, Collins, or Drazenovich at this point. I'm not dismissing them, but for the time being we need to really evaluate Joey.
i agree...in what i've seen, we have a very effective 2C with 1C capabilities when he tops out...which with a MacK pick we can have a solid 1/2C punch which i very much want...then surround with solid wingers...
i agree...in what i've seen, we have a very effective 2C with 1C capabilities when he tops out...which with a MacK pick we can have a solid 1/2C punch which i very much want...then surround with solid wingers...
I hate to come off as a size queen, but it seems that all our legitimate forward prospects are small save one: Johansen. I'd be very reluctant to give up on him at this age without a much longer evaluation by talent judges I trust.
After getting shut out bringing up Johansen could be as simple as generating some offense... I'm more concerned about Jack than the Johansen soap opera...
Am I the only one thinking: I would not be surprised to see Johansen moved either at the trade deadline or in the offseason.
No. I wouldn't be surprised. However that has nothing to do with Johansen. We have a new regime and who knows what they are going to do. I highly doubt that would be moving Johansen, but maybe they see something they don't like.
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Not to say that he's been terrible, but he would seem to be one of the few guys with real value despite the poor first half of the season, at least statistically.
Now this is where you lose me. Value for what exactly? What are you thinking they are going to do with him? What are you expecting back? Your post suggests a line of thinking that is probably greatly flawed, but I want to see your response before passing final judgement.
Frankly I thing the moves will involve extracting value for guys that "don't fit". Not trading a projected top line center still very early in his career, for who knows what exactly? Something to improve the team next year? A goalie? A 30 goal scorer? I just don't see it, as Johansen could very well end up close to a 30 goal scorer.
I think we're starting to inject some urgency that probably isn't there.
I think he gets a much longer look now. I don't really care to see JAM, Collins, or Drazenovich at this point. I'm not dismissing them, but for the time being we need to really evaluate Joey.
I see no urgency at all. He could develop in Springfield the rest of the season and the next as well. We probably should be more annoyed at Howson for triggering his sliding rule contract for the crappy way he was utilized by the Jackets last season.
How is he supposed to grow or do anything positive playing with bottom tiered talent on the 4th line with 6 minutes a game. Kreider with Miller and Callahan worked, and I guarantee it would work again if torts had the balls to do it once Nash came back. You have to either send him down getting big minutes and better like how callahan was when he was younger, or reunite that line because torts is just ruining him as is. The kid has no ice time, hence no place to go thru growing pains, and it doesnt help when youre scared to be thrown in the doghouse every 2 seconds, that mentality doesnt work with everybody. Look at Kadri for example in toronto, definitely experienced plenty of growing pains over last 3 years, and is now coming into own. Im not losing faith in him, im just completely pissed at how hes being handled currently by torts."
Replace Kreider with Joey and Torts with Richards and voila! you have the Joey story. Guess we're not the only ones.
Replace Kreider with Joey and Torts with Richards and voila! you have the Joey story. Guess we're not the only ones.
How dare you. Everyone knows the CBJ are the only team that ever struggles. We're special little snowflakes with unique issues that no other team could ever possibly hope to understand, therefore making us the best, hardiest, most intelligent and attractive hockey fans the world has ever seen!!
How is he supposed to grow or do anything positive playing with bottom tiered talent on the 4th line with 6 minutes a game. Kreider with Miller and Callahan worked, and I guarantee it would work again if torts had the balls to do it once Nash came back. You have to either send him down getting big minutes and better like how callahan was when he was younger, or reunite that line because torts is just ruining him as is. The kid has no ice time, hence no place to go thru growing pains, and it doesnt help when youre scared to be thrown in the doghouse every 2 seconds, that mentality doesnt work with everybody. Look at Kadri for example in toronto, definitely experienced plenty of growing pains over last 3 years, and is now coming into own. Im not losing faith in him, im just completely pissed at how hes being handled currently by torts."
Replace Kreider with Joey and Torts with Richards and voila! you have the Joey story. Guess we're not the only ones.
Replace Kreider/Joey with Filatov and Torts/Richards with Hitch.
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“@Aportzline: Asked where the #StLBlues had Ryan Johansen rated during his draft year of 2010, #CBJ GM Jarmo Kekalainen says: "Oh, yeah. We had him high."”
“@Aportzline: Kekalainen acknowledged Johansen's "wow" moments recently: "The best player in every game sets the tempo for that game. ... "”
“@Aportzline: More Kekalainen: "That’s the goal for him, too, to set the tempo and play on that level."”
“@Aportzline: Big morning skate Tuesday in Nationwide. #CBJ hoping Johnson, Brassard and Nikitin can play; #Oilers hoping Hall and Eberle are good to go.”
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