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02-25-2013, 09:12 AM
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Fort Never Win: Why are we so bad at home?

2-7 after 9 games at the NVMC, which is the worst home record in the NHL, while we're 6-3-1 on the road.

What is the cause of this?

You can't say it's the ice, because that affects both teams.

Does the team just get up for games more when they're playing in front of a bigger, louder crowd like in Montreal, Toronto, the Garden, etc.?

Do the players just hate the Coliseum?

Are they not sleeping until they get to Brooklyn?

Are they distracted by Goldie?

What's going on here?

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02-25-2013, 09:16 AM
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2-7 after 9 games at the NVMC, which is the worst home record in the NHL, while we're 6-3-1 on the road.

What is the cause of this?

You can't say it's the ice, because that affects both teams.

Does the team just get up for games more when they're playing in front of a bigger, louder crowd like in Montreal, Toronto, the Garden, etc.?

Do the players just hate the Coliseum?

Are they not sleeping until they get to Brooklyn?

Are they distracted by Goldie?

What's going on here?
Bingo.

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02-25-2013, 09:22 AM
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You can't say it's the ice, because that affects both teams.
Of course it does, but it affects both teams differently. The Islanders are overly dependent on their power play. Their PP is 19% at home, 32% on the road. I think some of that is due to the ice.

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Not sure I buy that. Don't necessarily see a lot of bouncing puck issues when the Isles are on the PP at home.

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Posted this in the game day thread after the Buffalo game...

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We just don't seem to play well at home..kinda sucks. I remember we came back from a monster road trip right off the bat this season just to suck it up at home.

This season 2-6 H vs 6-3-1 away, also 5 of those wins were against the Rags,Devils,Penguins,Toronto, and Montreal who are all ahead of us in the standings and Montreal leads the Eastern conference with 26 pts and the Devils/Penguins are tied for 2nd with 24.

last few years at home vs road:
Year....Home-------Road
11/12...17-18-6....17-19-5
10/11...17-18-6....13-21-7
09/10...23-14-4....11-23-7
08/09...17-18-6-...9-29-3

What are the odds we would finish 3 out 4 seasons with the same exact home record?????? This also does not seem like a alarming trend at all..meaning we seem to play decent at home except so far this year.

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We have been bad for awhile but Home wise not nearly as bad as on the road, so I don't believe it's a attendance issue.

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02-25-2013, 10:18 AM
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Do the players just hate the Coliseum?
probably, who wants to play for fans who boo you before the season even beings (DiPietro on opening night)

there is bad karma thanks to the "fans" at the Coliseum

Hopefully with the move to Brooklyn, all the fake and crappy fans will stay at home, and they will be replaced by suits who just sit there

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Posted this in the game day thread after the Buffalo game...



We have been bad for awhile but Home wise not nearly as bad as on the road, so I don't believe it's a attendance issue.
Never really looked at those splits. The home record, besides 09-10 is absolutely pathetic. 17-18-6.... let's call it what it is... 17-24. That's just putrid. But those road records are disgusting too so my theory about playing in front of a bigger crowd is kind of squashed I guess.

Want to be a playoff team? Go .500 (or a game or two under) on the road and replicate the 09-10 home record. This team HAS to create a home ice presence. Hard to do when you have John Tavares and little else but winning at home is absolutely essential.

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Weak mental makeup of team and coaching. Can not close out high pressure games.

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Most of our players are at the bottom of the plus/minus rankings in the league. That stat is indicative of all the give aways that happen through out the games 5 on 5. We just seem to be more generous with the puck at home. We're just trying to make our guests feel welcome.

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Weak mental makeup of team and coaching. Can not close out high pressure games.
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I won't say that it is THE reason, but one part of this has to be the filthy condition of the ice. When you can't do the toe drags, curls, dipsy doo BS that many of the skill kids on this squad like to do you should go to a lunch pail system of chip it in, fight for it, fight for the front of the net, and eventually MAN the puck into the other net.

End result: the girlscouts in the top 6 can't play that kind of game so they lose.

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because every time they come back from a good road trip (which has been the case this year) and start playing at home, they have loads of momentum and start playing sloppy maybe.... I don't know, just a theory

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The quiet puts them to sleep.

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The quiet puts them to sleep.
Yeah but if they are winning on the road that means the road places are quiet as well...I think fans have a bad perception of this team and it sucks all the energy out of the coliseum

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They get booed at home.

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Weak mental makeup of team and coaching. Can not close out high pressure games.
This would not be exclusive to only home games.

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They get booed at home.
Do they cheer us on the road?

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I doubt it has anything to do with the fanbase. We sold out the home opener and the crowed was nuts and the team played a dull game. We sold out the Philly game and the crowd was into it at first until we lost 7-0.

I think it's a lack of focus when these kids (the vast majority of our team is very young) are in their home environment. They likely see girls that they didn't get to see on road trips, and have tons of other pressurs on them when they are at home. While some of the blame should be placed on the players for not showing appropriate maturity, I'd place a larger portion of the blame on the coaching staff and management of the Islanders for not putting in place a structure to ensure that we are ready to play home games.

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On the road the opposition coach dictates the matchups. At home Cappy gets to strategize and decide the matchups.

I'm only half kidding here.

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On the road the opposition coach dictates the matchups. At home Cappy gets to strategize and decide the matchups.

I'm only half kidding here.
capuano loses at least 50% of the matchups per game at home

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If the islanders lose at home and nobody is there to see it is it still a loss? BEAT BOSTON!

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It's because the team as a whole is just awful. No real mystery. People keep looking for excuses-but honestly there is none. This team just isn't that good-it was obvious pre-season and it's obvious now.

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If that's the case they should be equally as awful off the Island.

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If that's the case they should be equally as awful off the Island.
Have you watched the games? They're always terrible minus 1st line and Nabby (on some nights).

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New York is probably the most pressuring environment for any professional athlete to play in. With that said, look at how young this team is and how High the expectations are for these players are while they play in a dump of an arena in front of us fed up fans. I'd say it definitely has a bit to do with immaturity and inexperience. I don't want to sit here and make excuses for sloppy and lackadaisical work ethic on behalf of this team but I can't say it's a confidence booster when they take the ice for the opening period and sections of seats are empty for a weekend game. Maybe if a goal scorer or a productive player was acquired to put more of a product on the ice then this wouldn't be such an issue. This is just my two cents.

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New York is probably the most pressuring environment for any professional athlete to play in. With that said, look at how young this team is and how High the expectations are for these players are while they play in a dump of an arena in front of us fed up fans. I'd say it definitely has a bit to do with immaturity and inexperience. I don't want to sit here and make excuses for sloppy and lackadaisical work ethic on behalf of this team but I can't say it's a confidence booster when they take the ice for the opening period and sections of seats are empty for a weekend game. Maybe if a goal scorer or a productive player was acquired to put more of a product on the ice then this wouldn't be such an issue. This is just my two cents.
Well I put up some stats from the last 4 seasons previous to this 1 and we haven't had home problems til this year. Obviously improving this team on the ice would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. If you improve the on ice product then the fans will come so it goes hand in hand. I have no idea why this season we are playing bad at home but everyone out there is a professional and some are playing for a future NHL career so i can't think they are "just not into it" because they see empty seats. If however they do then that is a huge mistake on their part.

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