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02-26-2013, 03:27 AM
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Team bonding. You play harder for the guys around you when you spend more time with them.

I have no idea other than it's possible some of the guys like the challenge of being an 'underdog' on the road. It's probably a combination of different factors. Ice, Capuano being awful, black jerseys, etc.

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02-26-2013, 04:23 AM
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Easy: More pressure to show up put on themselves, young team tries too hard when there are several HOLES, it's hard to win when you put yourself behind the 8 ball every night.

And add: we wear the dark thirds at home thanks to the Wanger and brilliant minds behind ORANGE, BLUE & YOU!

If the arena were empty like it should be given the cheap SOB owner, the guys probably wouldn't have as much pressure to play hard. I have ZERO doubt the entire bench now wants to make the home fans happy and earn their support. None. You can see the pressure Tavares and Hamonic and others place on themselves every night. They're young and trying to be winners against all odds.


You give these guys some confidence (a trade for a secondary scoring pivot} and some success {the coach makes the roster play tougher and rolls lines out more effectively} and they start winning at home and fans make it energizing.

But Bailey to waiver fodder to Okposo and it gets turned over twenty times a night makes it tough to get to the finish we need to get any semblance of a home ice advantage.



Now add the aura of an abandoned fanbase with a cheap SOB owner.......



of course, it could be the awful high priced food our well manages arena puts out for fans and likely players. Visiting teams at at the hotel.

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02-26-2013, 06:27 AM
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If the islanders lose at home and nobody is there to see it is it still a loss? BEAT BOSTON!
After checking with my sources I would like to confirm it indeed is a loss

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02-26-2013, 10:41 AM
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so the consensus is then that they press more at home and possibly get up for the games less because of the lame crowds?

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so the consensus is then that they press more at home and possibly get up for the games less because of the lame crowds?
I was there for the home opener and when Philly massacred us this season and both those crowds were sell outs. I think it has to do more with how they respond under situations where they feel pressure. Sunday against Carolina they were in a must win situation. A win would have put us at .500 and in the hunt for the playoffs. They saw themselves up two goals in a game they should have been losing, they responded by ******** the bed the next two periods. It's important to steal victories and grind it out when we need a win.

Look how well they've played in the past seasons when they were mentally out of the playoffs. IMHO this team needs to learn to take big wins when the pressure is on and when a win is necessary or they never take that next step and make the playoffs.

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02-26-2013, 11:24 AM
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They're all buckling under the pressure of Wangs watchful eye. They know if they just show some promise and a couple flashes of brilliance they too can get a 15 year contract extension.

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02-26-2013, 01:00 PM
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Bingo.

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they got shut out 7 nothing against the flyers in front of a sell out crowd at home

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02-26-2013, 01:09 PM
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Weak mental makeup of team and coaching. Can not close out high pressure games.
Bingo.. close thread and end the conspiracy theories.

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02-26-2013, 01:49 PM
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they got shut out 7 nothing against the flyers in front of a sell out crowd at home
I was half kidding. In fact whenever there is a big crowd they seem to **** the bed. So who the hell knows what it is. The stats are the stats though... putrid at home for 4 of the last 5 years (including this year) And yes, I consider 17-18-6 putrid as a home record. It really doesn't matter why. It just needs to change.

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02-26-2013, 04:48 PM
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I was half kidding. In fact whenever there is a big crowd they seem to **** the bed. So who the hell knows what it is. The stats are the stats though... putrid at home for 4 of the last 5 years (including this year) And yes, I consider 17-18-6 putrid as a home record. It really doesn't matter why. It just needs to change.
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last few years at home vs road:
Year....Home-------Road
11/12...17-18-6....17-19-5
10/11...17-18-6....13-21-7
09/10...23-14-4....11-23-7
08/09...17-18-6-...9-29-3
The overall problem is even with stellar home play the road records are atrocious.
Another 1 of your posts was dead on using the non 1 pt SO/OT record.

17-24 at home 3 of the 4 but if we did that with the road it would be..
17-24
13-28
11-30
9-32

Those are some frightening numbers. I guess we fixed our road woes but failed to show up at home this season. I guess it's like the import/export issue where if you concentrate more on the importing as opposed to the exporting. I think you need to work equally on the import/exporting area to fully succeed. Make sure Elaine knows what we are importing/exporting btw, I dont want to get punched in the mouth again!

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02-27-2013, 12:38 AM
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last place teams are usually hovering around .500 at home which is what always made going to games bearable, this is just pure torture

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02-27-2013, 08:45 AM
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another Coliseum effort last night, although all things being said they played better for long stretched just couldnt beat Rask.

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02-28-2013, 07:23 PM
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I think the players are bummed out that at EVERY game, regardless of the opponent, there is a vy large contingent of opposing fans. And they are all sitting right by the glass and are loud. Its as if we dont have a home ice advantage really.

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02-28-2013, 09:57 PM
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02-28-2013, 11:07 PM
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ok im not going to home games anymore

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03-01-2013, 11:37 AM
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seriously can they like find asbestos or something before our next home game and void the lease?

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03-20-2013, 04:44 PM
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After last night I'm convinced, NO SUCCESS TILL BROOKLYN. There's no home ice advantage anymore. NYI is putrid at home. A weeknight game at NVMC is downright depressing. Nobody there, no energy, no life, no incentive to play well, like a high school atmosphere. It has to effect play. Beyond the usual suckage that is.......


A quote from ottawa's anouncers last night on Canadian broadcast on NHL Ticket -

One of them was Denis Potvin....

“the good thing about playing at Nassau Collesium is that when you shoot a puck over the glass, you don’t have to worry about hurting a fan”.

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After last night I'm convinced, NO SUCCESS TILL BROOKLYN. There's no home ice advantage anymore. NYI is putrid at home. A weeknight game at NVMC is downright depressing. Nobody there, no energy, no life, no incentive to play well, like a high school atmosphere. It has to effect play. Beyond the usual suckage that is.......


A quote from ottawa's anouncers last night on Canadian broadcast on NHL Ticket -

One of them was Denis Potvin....

“the good thing about playing at Nassau Collesium is that when you shoot a puck over the glass, you don’t have to worry about hurting a fan”.
That's dungbag Deane Brown. Potvin does what he can to defend the name.

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03-21-2013, 01:41 PM
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1. The arena drama and impending Brooklyn move has driven away some fans
2. Team started crapping out at home and nobody likes watching a losing team
3. Other teams' fans started filling the seats

Get on a good streak and the fans will come back.

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03-21-2013, 02:25 PM
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A few of us have talked about the condition of the ice impacting their puck possession game. That is likely a factor. The last game there was such bratal ice that everyone was falling including the officials.

On that topic, when do the horrid conditions of the ice constitute an unsafe work environment?

Since the County has been a slumlord unwilling to maintain reasonable upkeep of the units, shouldn't the Isles take them to court over this?

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03-21-2013, 02:35 PM
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A few of us have talked about the condition of the ice impacting their puck possession game. That is likely a factor. The last game there was such bratal ice that everyone was falling including the officials.

On that topic, when do the horrid conditions of the ice constitute an unsafe work environment?

Since the County has been a slumlord unwilling to maintain reasonable upkeep of the units, shouldn't the Isles take them to court over this?
the ice sucks, 2 of 4 condensers were never repaired, but given that.....it's not the worst ice in the NHL. We just saw that awful yellow ice in Florida a few nights ago.

So no dice in court.

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03-23-2013, 06:16 PM
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Great article. A must read -

"There is only one explanation for the Isles’ often horrifying play at home.. that’s because they don’t feel the love at the Coliseum,

what is annoying is the legions of opposing fans that take over the Coliseum. ... disheartening is when teams like the Canadiens, Capitals, Bruins, Flyers and many others invade and commandeer the lower bowl.

The bottom line is the Islanders need to get out of that building pronto. I think the Isles realize that with the move will come an opportunity to eventually develop a new fan base.

get the Isles out of the parking lot by the beach and on the road to a place that probably will be a little more understanding...The sooner the Isles leave the old barn in the rearview, the better off they will be."


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/...slanders-mojo/

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They suck in sellouts too.

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A team who can't win at home can't make the playoffs. It's as simple as that said Butch last night.

No team has made the playoffs with a home losing record since the invention of the Bettman loser point. They would need to go 6-0 at home for the rest of the season to even get to .500. And only one team since 1999 has even made the playoffs with a .500 record at home.

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Great article. A must read -

"There is only one explanation for the Isles’ often horrifying play at home.. that’s because they don’t feel the love at the Coliseum,

what is annoying is the legions of opposing fans that take over the Coliseum. ... disheartening is when teams like the Canadiens, Capitals, Bruins, Flyers and many others invade and commandeer the lower bowl.

The bottom line is the Islanders need to get out of that building pronto. I think the Isles realize that with the move will come an opportunity to eventually develop a new fan base.

get the Isles out of the parking lot by the beach and on the road to a place that probably will be a little more understanding...The sooner the Isles leave the old barn in the rearview, the better off they will be."


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/...slanders-mojo/
Read the article. Wang is reaping from the fans what he sowed.

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