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03-25-2005, 01:31 AM
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Ordinary Players, Extraordinary Playoffs

What are some of the best playoff performances by guys you wouldn't normally expect to see step up and dominate because of whatever reason?

a few of mine

John Druce in 1990- What the hell was this? Mediocre forward who barely played any games in the league, steps up and scores 14 goals and 17 points in 15 playoff games, leading the Capitals to the conference finals. Had a decent NHL career afterwards, but never came close to replicating that bizarre playoff.

Neil Broten 1995- 35 years old, only 4 points (all assists) in 17 games with Dallas, his career is finished right? wrong. Lamoriello brings him to NJ and he catches fire, the old man scores 28 points in 30 regular season games, then 19 points in 20 playoff games leading the Devils to there first Cup. that was pretty much his last hurrah in the NHL.

Todd Bergen- Who? Rookie played a key role in the Flyers 1985 run to the cup finals, scored 11 goals and 16 points in 14 regular season games, then followed it up with 13 points in 17 playoff games. Never played in the NHL again after that 1985 cup finals.

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Anders Kallur....Swedish forward on the New York Islanders 1982-83 Stanley Cup winning team who scored 15-points in 20-playoff games.

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How about Alyn McCauley when Sundin was injured, not only did he take his place, he played much more rough and unrespectful :O

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Moe Lemay, Boston, 1988. 6 games 0-0-0 in the regular season with Edmonton and Boston. In the PO, he went 4-2-6 in 15 games. 317 career RS games and 28 in the PO.

Bobby Sheehan, NYR, 1979. 4-3-7 in 15 PO games. Didn't play in the NHL that regular season. Played for seven teams in 9 NHL seasons.

Steve Penney, 1983-84, 0-4-0 with Montreal in the regular season. That PO, he went 9-6 in 15 games with 3 shutouts and a 2.20 GAA. Played 91 games in his regular season career and 27 in the playoffs.

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Niclas Wallin of Carolina had two OT GWG's in 01-02 playoffs, and didn't Malik have one or two?

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What about Chris Kontos in the 1988/1989 playoffs. He played 7 games for LA scoring 2 goals and 1 assist in the regular season. Then in the playoffs exploded for 9 goals in 11 games. I remeber because he destroyed the Oilers that year. He never really had much of a career after that except for a decent year with the expansion Lightning.

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What are some of the best playoff performances by guys you wouldn't normally expect to see step up and dominate because of whatever reason?

Todd Bergen- Who? Rookie played a key role in the Flyers 1985 run to the cup finals, scored 11 goals and 16 points in 14 regular season games, then followed it up with 13 points in 17 playoff games. Never played in the NHL again after that 1985 cup finals.
Todd Bergen was a tremendously talented player, and for my money the biggest waste of talent to ever wear the orange & black. He had the size and hands of Tim Kerr, was a a much better playmaker, and had an absolute cannon of a slapshot, that made him a legit threat from 45-50 feet out.

He couldn't stand Mike Keenan and ended up quitting the game to become a golf pro.

IMO if Bergen didn't quit he'd have been a perrenial all-star.

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Neil Broten 1995- 35 years old, only 4 points (all assists) in 17 games with Dallas, his career is finished right? wrong. Lamoriello brings him to NJ and he catches fire, the old man scores 28 points in 30 regular season games, then 19 points in 20 playoff games leading the Devils to there first Cup. that was pretty much his last hurrah in the NHL.
Broten was a star player! Not "ordinary".

As rookie-of-the-year in the NCAA he led his team to the championship, followed it up with two more all-star seasons and the Hobey Baker award, was also an integral part of the U.S. Olympic gold Miracle in Lake Placid, then joined the North Stars to help Minnesota get to the Stanley Cup finals.

Then afterwards he played in the NHL all-star game in '83 and '85, had 105 points the following season, becoming the first American-born player to break the 100-point plateau.

He is the North Stars/Stars franchise's all-time leader in scoring, assists, games played, seasons, shorthanded goals, playoff games and playoff assists. His number 7 was retired by the Dallas Stars in 1998. As well, he was inducted into the U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame in the year 2000.

To anyone who watched hockey in the eighties, he was not by any means "ordinary".

I assume you are young and only saw him toward the end of his career.

Broten doesn't belong on this thread. Perhaps on the "forgotten stars" thread.

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03-25-2005, 10:29 AM
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yes I know neal broten had been a star player, but at that point in his career he was 35 and thought to be in rapid decline

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For Vancouver:

Neil Belland, 1982 playoffs. 20 y/o rookie steps into the lineup with an injury to top defender Kevin McCarthy, and is outstanding - plays all 17 games in miracle playoff run, and is the team's highest-scoring blueliner with 8 points. NHL career lasts only 109 games.

Nathan Lafayette, 1994 playoffs. Rookie who played like a veteran on finals run - centered the third line, put up 9 points and played great at both ends of the rink. Hit the crossbar late in the 3rd period of game 7 of the finals, and everything was downhill after that. Lasted parts of 5 more seasons before retiring due to concussions.

Should also note Brian Glynn, a mediocre journeyman defender who had several great playoffs. 1991 with Minnesota, 1994 with Vancouver, and popped 4 goals in 16 games for Edmonton in the 1992 playoffs after having only 4 all season.

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Paul Dipietro for Montreal in 1993. Started the year with Fredericton of the AHL, called up to play 29 games with Montreal where he recorded 17 pts. He scored 8 goals and 13 pts in 17 playoff games playing an instrumental role in the Habs run to the Cup. He played 70 games the following season and had 33 pts. He then became a journeyman in the AHL, being called up a few times for different teams. He now plays in the Swiss Second Division.

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Althought they were both stars, I can't think of two players who raised their level of play in the playoffs more than Claude Lemieux and Billy Smith.

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Esa Tikkanen.

The guy did it all come playoff time. Several years he'd score as much in the playoffs as in the regular season, and clutch goals too. And not just in Edmonton. He had a good playoffs in Vancouver and I recall three postseason game winners as a Ranger. The Capitals coach was asked what got his team to the Final and to everyone's surprise he didn't say Kolzig, instead Tikkanen.

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Gary Roberts. I dont consider him a star. Gigeure, he wasnt a star, still isnt. Im young so i only have recent knowledge.

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I think alot of you guys are missing the point of this thread.

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I think alot of you guys are missing the point of this thread.
Exactly. Ordinary guys who've played well in the playoffs.

Tikkanen is an ordinary player who would have gotten no press if he played his entire career in Buffalo instead of on the multi-Cup winning Oilers.

Broten is by no means an ordinary player,... but the original poster thinks he qualifies so maybe this thread is simply about average regualr seasons and exceptional playoffs.

Instead of being about no-name guys who dominate the playoffs.

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Exactly. Ordinary guys who've played well in the playoffs.

Tikkanen is an ordinary player who would have gotten no press if he played his entire career in Buffalo instead of on the multi-Cup winning Oilers.

Broten is by no means an ordinary player,... but the original poster thinks he qualifies so maybe this thread is simply about average regualr seasons and exceptional playoffs.

Instead of being about no-name guys who dominate the playoffs.
I think the original poster intended the thread to be about surprise playoff performances - guys who came out of nowhere to have a great playoff, then returned to obscurity. Broten qualified in his mind because he was about 36, was three or four years removed from his last really good season and looked done, then shocked everyone by turning back the clock a decade for a few months before fading again. Denis Savard, incidentally, did the same thing in the 1995 playoffs.

Tikkanen (and Lemieux, Smith, Roberts) was a great playoff performer, but also a high-end player in the regular season, and high-level playoff performances were expected from him. Not surprises.

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Todd Bergen was a tremendously talented player, and for my money the biggest waste of talent to ever wear the orange & black. He had the size and hands of Tim Kerr, was a a much better playmaker, and had an absolute cannon of a slapshot, that made him a legit threat from 45-50 feet out.

He couldn't stand Mike Keenan and ended up quitting the game to become a golf pro.

IMO if Bergen didn't quit he'd have been a perrenial all-star.
I agree here wholeheartedly, I thought this guy was going to be one of the best d-man for years to come. Like you said, what a slapshot!

While Keenan is often credited with maturing young kids to better players, this one he failed badly.

I can't but help to think, that there are/have been also quite a bunch of players who are/were a way better than any current/past players skillswise, they just didn't have the mental attitude for hockey, or were at the wrong place at the wrong time.

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I agree here wholeheartedly, I thought this guy was going to be one of the best d-man for years to come. Like you said, what a slapshot!
He was a winger.

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Montreal goalie Steve Penney comes to mind with his '84 playoff run.

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Gaston Gingras in Montreal in 86. Chris Chelios and Rick Green were hurt nearly the entire season. Gingras was a mid-season call-up for spot duty on the powerplay because of his cannon of a shot. (He nearly decapitated Bob Froese in a late season game against the Flyers), then the playoffs roll around and his role gets larger and larger. He scored two goals and had three assists in 11 games, but more importantly his footspeed and good first pass took a lot of pressure off the Habs in the defensive zone and teams had to worry about someone other than Chelios.

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Gaston Gingras in Montreal in 86. Chris Chelios and Rick Green were hurt nearly the entire season. Gingras was a mid-season call-up for spot duty on the powerplay because of his cannon of a shot. (He nearly decapitated Bob Froese in a late season game against the Flyers), then the playoffs roll around and his role gets larger and larger....
Recalling long-forgotten names like Gingras, Paul Dipietro and Moe Lemay(!) makes this thread amusing. Re-activating the "memory" synapses of the brain.

The great Isles teams featured several players who were pretty ordinary October -March, but notably morphed into excellent players once spring rolled around, though their statistics alone may not attest to that.

Three who immediately come to mind:
Wayne Merrick
Duane Sutter
Gordie Lane

As a fan, I learned from observing these guys to judge the value of players first an foremost based on how they perform when it matters most. (Conversely, of course, there are superb players during the regular season who are incapable of elevating their game in the post-season.) As is, the Isles were repeatedly led to their Cups by their top core players, but the contributions of their supporting cast, such as the trio above, increased exponentially once April rolled around, 1980-83.


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Ruslan Fedetenko

2003-04 Regular Season
77 Games, 17 Goals

2003-04 Playoffs
22 Games, 12 Goals (2 in gm7 of cup finals)

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Andy Delmore

In 2000, he had 5 goals and 2 assists after having reversed numbers in regular season. He also scored a hat trick in that game.

Patrick Marleau

Scored two hat tricks in 2004 playoffs, while he has 1 career hat trick in regular season.

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