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02-28-2013, 12:56 AM
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Canucks and a team from the East?

With Kesler now out and Bieksa injured, maybe throw back out there the talk of VAN-WSH making a deal? Centered around Luongo+ for Johannson+Carlson+

MG did have interest in Carlson before he traded Hodgson and before we signed Garrison but with Bieksa injured, what other right-handed D-men do we have besides Tanev... And I despite Holtby getting the contract extension, I think WSH would still like having a solid goalie between the pipes (as well as a good mentor for Holtby).

For sure the deal won't be just Luongo for Johannson+Carlson but I think that would be a good start to a potential trade. Anything is possible as this point for these two clubs.

This is my proposal NOT trade rumor:

Luongo+Corrado+2nd(2013)+3rd(2014) (edit:Switched Sauve to Corrado)

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Carlson+Johannson+Neuvirth+Conditional Pick (1st(2013) if WSH makes playoff, 3rd (2013) if they don't).


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02-28-2013, 01:04 AM
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This is a pretty easy no from the Caps. As much as I would like Carlson I dont think Luongo and Sauve will get it done. Let alone have them throw in Johannson, Neuvirth and a 1st or 3rd. Tanev and Corrado are the only defenders I think the Caps would be interested in and I am not a fan of moving either at this point.

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02-28-2013, 01:04 AM
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The Caps aren't moving Carlson.

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Well that has us royally ripping of Washington.

Schneider+ for Carlson + Johansson seems more doable from my perspective.

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02-28-2013, 01:08 AM
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Remember when the Caps traded away Varlamov when they had Neuvirth and Holtby? That means, the Caps are happy with their goaltending situation. Neuvirth is good enough to take this team to the playoffs, why do they need to trade for Lou?

Not to mention this is horrible value for the Caps. Why would they trade their young, #1 defenseman, and one of their most promising forwards just to upgrade their goalie situation?

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02-28-2013, 01:20 AM
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Remember when the Caps traded away Varlamov when they had Neuvirth and Holtby? That means, the Caps are happy with their goaltending situation. Neuvirth is good enough to take this team to the playoffs, why do they need to trade for Lou?

Not to mention this is horrible value for the Caps. Why would they trade their young, #1 defenseman, and one of their most promising forwards just to upgrade their goalie situation?
It means they tried something that doesn't seem to be working guarantee Leonsis is not "happy" with his goaltending.

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02-28-2013, 04:29 AM
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He also would not be happy with an aging goalie with a bloated contract. I just dont see the Nucks getting much for Loooooo with that insane contract and the cap going down.

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02-28-2013, 04:31 AM
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The Caps don't need a goaltender. They especially don't need one at the expense of their best young D and they certainly wouldn't add to Carlson to get something they don't need.

If they were to trade Carlson, and there has been at least one small rumor that went unnoticed by most, they would probably want high character players in return that were also young and talented, if you came up with that, you might have a chance. At least one D has to be coming back. The rumor was that they were willing to do a 2 for 1 with Carlson as long as they got 2 good players in return.

I Don't have a link, the rumor was on this board, if you want to find it search for yourself.

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Caps and Canucks don't make a good trading partner here. They are happy with their young goaltending and know they need to play better, but giving that all up when they have a lot of work to do and getting Schnieder or Luongo makes no sense. If they were a bubble team like 8-9th, sure, but they're tied for last. If the Caps were to make a trade for a goaltender, they'd likely do it in the off season.

And Caps wouldn't move Carlson. They're high on the kid, they'd move Mike Green before they ever moved him.

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02-28-2013, 04:36 AM
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Remember when the Caps traded away Varlamov when they had Neuvirth and Holtby? That means, the Caps are happy with their goaltending situation. Neuvirth is good enough to take this team to the playoffs, why do they need to trade for Lou?

Not to mention this is horrible value for the Caps. Why would they trade their young, #1 defenseman, and one of their most promising forwards just to upgrade their goalie situation?
They just re-signed Holtby and I think he is the #1 golatender there.

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It means they tried something that doesn't seem to be working guarantee Leonsis is not "happy" with his goaltending.
I think you couldn't be more wrong, goaltending is the only thing they are happy with.

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I'd say Pens would offer Niskanen + Jeffrey, but I don't like the options for the guys the Canucks would give up. Doesn't help the Pens right now.

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Exhaustive search has revealed no Vancouver rumours. Extensive research has uncovered no trading partner.

Gillis needs the type of players every team needs. This is something that should have been addressed in the offseason. Gillis knows this and only does deals in the offseason. This sort of fux the nux for this year, but 2010 was a much better team, they didn't get management support at the deadline. Gillis and Vignault are still here.

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Johansson might be on the market, but I don't think the team management wants to deal Carlson (or much out of the rest of the core, for that matter). It sounds like they expect the team to continue playing its way out of its early-season funk.

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02-28-2013, 07:23 AM
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Vancouver will have Lou forever if they continue to think there gonna get that kind of a return. The guy might have a good year or two left and that contract. Gillis may have made a huge mistake already by not taking one of the offers he already got. Thinking your gonna get someone like Carlsson for him straight up is a joke.

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I think you couldn't be more wrong, goaltending is the only thing they are happy with.
wow....you think they're happy with they're goaltending performance you couldn't be more wrong , Washington isn't a last place team and goaltending and Ovie's slow start are the no 1 reasons why they're currently in the position they're in.

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wow....you think they're happy with they're goaltending performance you couldn't be more wrong , Washington isn't a last place team and goaltending and Ovie's slow start are the no 1 reasons why they're currently in the position they're in.


WOW...YOU couldn't be more wrong with regards to blaming the goaltending as to why they have had a bad season...As a caps fan (who watches every game I can and have played hockey since I was 5 at pretty competitive levels) most of the blame would have to be on the caps learning a new system, as well as defensive break downs. Most of the goals against have NOT been the goaltenders fault IMO. Most of the goals against have been on the PK or defensive break downs (For example, leaving a guy wide open in front of the net or forwards not covering their points, etc.)

I would also like to point out that a main reason the caps are where they are currently, is because they lack depth at wing. They do not have a bona fide goal scorer for their second line.

These are the main reasons why the caps are in the position they are in...Before you start blaming the goaltending, please first watch more than 5-10 caps games this season, and don't listen to our bandwaggon fans that know little about the game and always blame the goalies.

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Well that has us royally ripping of Washington.

Schneider+ for Carlson + Johansson seems more doable from my perspective.
Of course it's more doable from your perspective, because it is a landslide win for the nucks. Carlson has more value than Schneider, never mind adding a young up-and-coming talented C.

Washington just resigned Holtby... Nev isn't to shabby either. The Caps are jsut having an off year, they don't need to trade for your goalies when they have two capable options in their organization already... And they most certainly don't need to overpay for similar goaltending options.. (Schneider... not Lou.)

..... That "+" better be referring to 2013 1st, Jensen, and Kassian.

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I would absolutely love to steal a couple of players from Caps but i doubt they think the same way

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I would absolutely love to steal a couple of players from Caps but i doubt they think the same way
Agreed. Carlson is something the Canucks don't have, and would cost a lot more than Luongo or Schneider.

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I would absolutely love to steal a couple of players from Caps but i doubt they think the same way
I disagree. I'm sure Washington would love to make a trade, with us or anyone, where they come out as ahead as we do in this proposal.

Something around Johansson+ could work for me, but I think Carlson is about as hard to justify moving as almost anyone else on the Caps roster. Listening to Capitals fans however, it's not a goaltending problem, its a the whole team (sound familiar Canucks fans...?).

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With Kesler now out and Bieksa injured, maybe throw back out there the talk of VAN-WSH making a deal? Centered around Luongo+ for Johannson+Carlson+

MG did have interest in Carlson before he traded Hodgson and before we signed Garrison but with Bieksa injured, what other right-handed D-men do we have besides Tanev... And I despite Holtby getting the contract extension, I think WSH would still like having a solid goalie between the pipes (as well as a good mentor for Holtby).

For sure the deal won't be just Luongo for Johannson+Carlson but I think that would be a good start to a potential trade. Anything is possible as this point for these two clubs.

This is my proposal NOT trade rumor:

Luongo+Corrado+2nd(2013)+3rd(2014) (edit:Switched Sauve to Corrado)

for

Carlson+Johannson+Neuvirth+Conditional Pick (1st(2013) if WSH makes playoff, 3rd (2013) if they don't).

Pretty bad offer for the Caps.

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The Caps don't need a goaltender. They especially don't need one at the expense of their best young D and they certainly wouldn't add to Carlson to get something they don't need.

If they were to trade Carlson, and there has been at least one small rumor that went unnoticed by most, they would probably want high character players in return that were also young and talented, if you came up with that, you might have a chance. At least one D has to be coming back. The rumor was that they were willing to do a 2 for 1 with Carlson as long as they got 2 good players in return.

I Don't have a link, the rumor was on this board, if you want to find it search for yourself.
How about deal based around Carlson and Couturier? He seems to fit your description there.

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Carlson isn't going to Vancouver unless Edler, a healthy Kesler, Schneider, or Burrows++ is coming back. Why can't Vancouver fans get that through their heads? Carlson would fetch more than the original proposal alone. Let alone adding Johansson, Neuvirth and a 1st.

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The Caps are just as deficient in RHDs as the Nucks. If they trade Carlson, Green is their only RHD. I doubt the Caps would trade any of their D.

IF the Caps were looking at a vet goalie to mentor and split duties with Holtby, I'd look to get something done around Luongo + pick/prospect for Beagle + Johansson/Forsberg + cap dump (Poti/Hamrlik?).

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