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02-26-2013, 08:08 PM
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Bourque, Plek, Ryder
Pax - DD - Dumont
Eller - Alex - Gallagher
Prust White Moen


PP 1st wave:
Pax - DD - Eller - Chuck - Gally

PP 2nd wave:
Markoz, Diaz, Subban, Plek, Ryder

So many things wrong here

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02-26-2013, 08:09 PM
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When the flames miss the playoffs tell me how great cammy is.
Did you forget we finished dead last with your boy Cole last year? I love watching all the things Gauthier did slowly getting phased out and watching you cry like a baby.

The plug more than doubling your golden boy in production.

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02-26-2013, 08:10 PM
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Gallagher - DD - Pac
Gionta/Clowe - Pelkanec - Bourque
Ryder - Eller - Galchenyuk
Prust - White - Moen

Ryan Clowe - Plek - Bourque would give us a solid shutdown line who can score

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What I like most is depending if we are In a playoff position or not we could either keep him or flip him for a first probably
We're going to really have to **** ourselves to be out of a playoff spot in 4 weeks

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I liked Cole but this is a good deal for the Habs.. I hope now the Habs don't deal away any picks this year. Having 6 picks in the first 3 rounds is quite nice. Getting rid of Cole's contract is also nice and along with the expected Kaberle buyout (if MB can't trade him) gives the Habs some added cap space if they don't decide to bring Ryder back.

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See ya cole you goof

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02-26-2013, 08:11 PM
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The pick is probably because Ryder is an expiring contract which tends to lower player's value in trades.

What if Gionta isn't in a slump and, I don't know, regressed. What if Cole is on the same boat? I'm not sure why it's so hard to believe that regressing isn't uncommon in the NHL as players approach mid/late 30s. Gomez and Kaberle regressed sooner. Sometimes this isn't the case, hence the risk Dallas took. Sometimes it is the case, hence the Habs dealing him despite knowing they need size/grit.

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This is the first move for Bergevin and I assume that he'll continue to make changes. If I had to make a guess, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Habs make a trade with Florida before the deadline because of the Tallon connection.

He's used to reactive GM's, not proactive ones. This move by Bergevin was a proactive move...something we have not seen here in a very long time.

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02-26-2013, 08:11 PM
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Bourque, Plek, Ryder
Pax - DD - Dumont
Eller - Alex - Gallagher
Prust White Moen


PP 1st wave:
Pax - DD - Eller - Chuck - Gally

PP 2nd wave:
Markoz, Diaz, Subban, Plek, Ryder
you know you got Dumont on the 2nd line ?

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02-26-2013, 08:12 PM
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So for the last couple of decades, and especially when Koivu was our top C, I hoped year in and year out for a power forward either through draft or trade, and we never got one. My hope for the illusive power forward was there when Cole became a UFA, he was the guy I wanted and shock of all shocks, PG got him. I was thrilled at the time.Yes the contract was long for Coles age but I thought he could give us a couple of good years and maybe a couple of okay years.

So I must be dejected about this trade. Actually, no. We finished almost at the bottom last year and got a new GM. With MBs moves and non moves I have been more and more convinced that he is shooting at having a window for a real contending team 2-3 years into his tenure, and this move fits that plan. Coles contract would be up in 2 years and it would not be unrealistic to believe he would start to decline over that time. Quite frankly, though he is a notorious slow starter, he seems to be have been really off this year, though recently turning things around. Again, no matter, he would not be part of our window and his heavy contract would be a burden in signing guys, either UFA or RFA, who could be part of the window.

Last year there were alot of D-men available as UFAs, in the next couple of years it will be top forwards that are to be UFAs. Sure, a number will resign with their teams, or be traded at the deadline to other teams that will resign some, but a few will hit UFA status. I think MB is patient over the next couple of years and is looking for the absolute right pieces, he will not settle I dont think, and he has some time here. Opening up this Cap space gives him the ammunition to go for a top flight 27-28 year old game breaker UFA forward. Sure, no guarantees The Guy is there as a UFA or that he signs here, but now MB can at least have a shot. If he fails then he hopes we develop what we need or trade , in which case we still need the money to pay.

Im sorry to see Cole go, nice to have a power forward, but I think I get MBs reasoning and it sure makes sense. The third rounder is nice, and given the extra 2 2nds and TT as our draft guy, we could land an extra player from these 3 picks alone. And sure, we have flexibilty to wheel and deal at the draft with all these extra picks. Note, this also fits the window as this will be the last draft where you might expect players picked to be in the NHL within the next few years ( talking about average players here not A.Gallys or PKs ).

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02-26-2013, 08:12 PM
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Let me be the first.

Ryder, Weber and a 2nd for RoR...
Book it!

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02-26-2013, 08:13 PM
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Bourque, Plek, Ryder
Pax - DD - Dumont
Eller - Alex - Gallagher
Prust White Moen


PP 1st wave:
Pax - DD - Eller - Chuck - Gally

PP 2nd wave:
Markoz, Diaz, Subban, Plek, Ryder
You do know Dumont washed out of the NHL? He was in the Swiss league last season. Also, did you just quietly off Gio?

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02-26-2013, 08:14 PM
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At first I was like....



.. but then I remember how much I hated Cole and I was like.. hey, Bergevin is getting rid of all Gainey's mistakes.




I like Ryder more than Cole, and that ****ing salary...

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You do know Dumont washed out of the NHL? He was in the Swiss league last season. Also, did you just quietly off Gio?
I think he means our Dumont in the AHL..

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02-26-2013, 08:17 PM
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I think he means our Dumont in the AHL..
Eh, I'm still confused as to what he did to Gio or why he thinks Dumont is NHL ready.

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02-26-2013, 08:19 PM
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Any chance Bergevin has more luck and finds a taker for Kaberle and Gionta

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02-26-2013, 08:20 PM
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Eh, I'm still confused as to what he did to Gio or why he thinks Dumont is NHL ready.
To be honest, I'd love Dumont in our lineup instead of Armstrong. Unfortunately, I don't want a lineup with Gionta, Desharnais, Gallagher, Dumont and Bouillon.

Enough is enough.

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02-26-2013, 08:20 PM
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Gionta Weber for Clowe

Gally - DD - Pac (Dangerous fast line)
Clowe - Plekanec - Bourque ( Shutdown line who can score goal on a regular basis)
Ryder - Eller - Galchenyuk ( Probably most dangerous 3rd line in the NHL)
Prust - White - Moen (Talk about a solid grinder line!)

make it happen MB!

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02-26-2013, 08:21 PM
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I love MB

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is there a Michael Ryder Michel Therrien connection?
I don't know if you've been answered but yes, there is. It was back in the days with les citadelles de québec.

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Wonder if he takes 72 and Gallagher keeps 73.

or Gallagher takes 71 (Had 17 in Hamilton - I know Leblanc usually has 71 here) or 11 from his junior days?

Vet rule is that the vet takes his number...

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I love MB
Seriously finally a solid team of management we have in place. I loved Gainey at first but the way Bergevin has surrounded himself I haven't seen in a long time here

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With Ryder our lines are pretty much 1a 1b 1c and then our fourth I like it

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Wonder if he takes 72 and Gallagher keeps 73.

or Gallagher takes 71 (Had 17 in Hamilton - I know Leblanc usually has 71 here) or 11 from his junior days?

Vet rule is that the vet takes his number...
DD kept his number after MB signed Cube. Think it will be the same with Ryder/Gallagher.

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With Ryder our lines are pretty much 1a 1b 1c and then our fourth I like it
More like 2a 2b 2c

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Wonder if he takes 72 and Gallagher keeps 73.

or Gallagher takes 71 (Had 17 in Hamilton - I know Leblanc usually has 71 here) or 11 from his junior days?

Vet rule is that the vet takes his number...
I doubt Gallagher gives up his number, Ryder most probably won't even be back next year

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