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Charlie Coyle elbowing major, targeting the head? Suspension? UPD: No Hearing

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02-27-2013, 05:02 PM
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Correct ruling IMO. He gets warned and if he does it again then action will be taken. I would have been ok with a fine at the most. Dumb late hit but there was no intent to injure IMO.
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02-27-2013, 05:25 PM
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Your comparison using a guy who came out 10 minutes later and was fine for the rest of the game to a guy who is now on injured reserve, really nails your whole point
He came out 30 minutes later and played what 5 shifts again Crosby finished the winter classic I guess he was faking too?

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02-27-2013, 05:33 PM
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He came out 30 minutes later and played what 5 shifts again Crosby finished the winter classic I guess he was faking too?
Is Stajan on IR? Does he have a concussion? Did he go see a doctor?

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Wild fans never actually really saw the hit from their feed. They had been fed that the call was terrible and Stajan was diving before they saw the Sportsnet feed, some going so far as saying he wasn't hit. First impressions last and that's why a couple of their fans are sticking with Stajan dived. That's the only reason I can see why people would claim someone getting hit in the head by a 210 pound rookie, going to the locker room for the remainder of the period while bleeding could call it embellishment.

I'm fine with no suspension, although I believe Coyle should have got the misconduct during the game.
He was bleeding. So if he actually was, wouldn't it make sense that THAT'S why he went back into the locker room? Which would also lead into him being back in the third. Bleeding=/=major head injury. You're comparing this to people who had major head injuries.

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02-27-2013, 05:37 PM
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Is Stajan on IR? Does he have a concussion? Did he go see a doctor?

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He was bleeding. So if he actually was, wouldn't it make sense that THAT'S why he went back into the locker room? Which would also lead into him being back in the third. Bleeding=/=major head injury. You're comparing this to people who had major head injuries.
I never said he had a major head injury I am saying just because he was down and came back doesn't mean he was faking it means he was hurt then felt better, there are many examples of people being really hurt and coming back.

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Suspending Coyle would (or should) be based on the notion that he did something stupid. Not on whether the guy on the receiving end is seriously injured or not.


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02-27-2013, 05:40 PM
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I never said he had a major head injury I am saying just because he was down and came back doesn't mean he was faking it means he was hurt then felt better, there are many examples of people being really hurt and coming back.
Sounds like an argument for another thread considering Stajan isn't injured.

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02-27-2013, 10:47 PM
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Suspending Coyle would (or should) be based on the notion that he did something stupid. Not on whether the guy on the receiving end is seriously injured or not.
Agreed. Action shouldn't be based on what the result was, but what could have happened. A late hit that targeted the head should warrant further disciplinary action, regardless if Stajan gets a concussion or not. Good thing Stajan was able to brace himself.

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02-27-2013, 10:59 PM
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He didn't target the head though

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Watch Coyle lunge upwards
Watch Stajan's head and what hits him
Notice that Stajan's head would have been hit had he not braced himself/straightened up at the very last moment

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He didn't target the head though

A late hit where he lunges upwards with his shoulder. You can watch it in higher definition from 0:25-0:29 on the video in OP. If Stajan still had his knees bent, that upward lunge would have been head shot.


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02-27-2013, 11:13 PM
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A late hit where he lunges upwards with his shoulder. You can watch it in higher definition from 0:25-0:29 on the video in OP.
Let it go dude - you've lost this one.

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02-27-2013, 11:31 PM
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I said a suspension was a no-brainer, and it was. Of course, I failed to take into account that those in charge of the NHL indeed have no brains.

Not too hard to see the league's policy on hits to the head - throw the book at the few players who put superstars on the shelf with concussions, and do sweet diddly-squat about the rest. I'm sure it'll come as a shock when the NFL-style lawsuits come rolling in.

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I said a suspension was a no-brainer, and it was. Of course, I failed to take into account that those in charge of the NHL indeed have no brains.

Not too hard to see the league's policy on hits to the head - throw the book at the few players who put superstars on the shelf with concussions, and do sweet diddly-squat about the rest. I'm sure it'll come as a shock when the NFL-style lawsuits come rolling in.
Funny. To me, this was a no brainer non-suspension, and it was.

If you want to start suspending these hits then go ahead, but first you must change the rules and set a new precedent.

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Suspending Coyle would (or should) be based on the notion that he did something stupid. Not on whether the guy on the receiving end is seriously injured or not.
They don't suspend intent without results, unfortunately.

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Watch Coyle lunge upwards
Watch Stajan's head and what hits him
Notice that Stajan's head would have been hit had he not braced himself/straightened up at the very last moment



A late hit where he lunges upwards with his shoulder. You can watch it in higher definition from 0:25-0:29 on the video in OP. If Stajan still had his knees bent, that upward lunge would have been head shot.
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