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04-11-2012, 05:06 AM
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Turkmenistan - The New Hockey Power

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/wir...ry_691204.html

So, when do we have our first Turkmenistan superstars in the NHL?

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04-11-2012, 05:11 AM
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That... is interesting. Perhaps in 20 years we'll see the first Turkmeni draftpick?

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That... is interesting. Perhaps in 20 years we'll see the first Turkmeni draftpick?
I'd think it takes more time. Country with no hockey culture and maybe hundred hockey youngsters isn't going to make it in 20 years, it takes at least two generations IMO, probably more.

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04-11-2012, 05:39 AM
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The great power of Ruhnama will lead them to success!

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Nice to see that the new dicta... president is continuing the legacy.
His predecessor was always a great source of crazy ideas who'd make you smile even in your darkest hours.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3554626.stm
"President Niyazov of Turkmenistan has ordered the construction of a palace made of ice in the heart of his desert country, one of the hottest on earth."

Don't you just love the totalitarian dictators of some countries, they can do what ever they want and the crazier the idea is, the better.
Niyazov was my favorite, renaming a month in the calendar after his mother and building statues of himself in gold, ice rinks in the middle of a desert.

Berdimuhamedow looks like a crazy one too, chances of a KHL team in Turkmenistan soon?


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I'd think it takes more time. Country with no hockey culture and maybe hundred hockey youngsters isn't going to make it in 20 years, it takes at least two generations IMO, probably more.
The Soviets did a pretty good job of creating a great hockey program in a short period of time under Anatoli Tarasov, they did have the luxury of being able to convert bandy players though.

What Turkmenistan has in their favour is that if their president/dictator is truly interested in creating a serious hockey program, they would likely be awarded nearly infinite resources to reach their goals. They would be able to recruit a "dream team" of coaches and staff and would be able to build world class facilities. They shouldn't have too much of a problem finding players either, usually dictatorships have no problem with forcing athletically gifted children to play a particular sport.

What really makes any success from this venture unlikely is that these eccentric cult-of-personality types generally lack patience and absolutely love to personally interfere with everything.

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The best thing about that country is that it means 'turk men in town' in swedish

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Nice to see that the new dicta... president is continuing the legacy.
His predecessor was always a great source of crazy ideas who'd make you smile even in your darkest hours.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3554626.stm
"President Niyazov of Turkmenistan has ordered the construction of a palace made of ice in the heart of his desert country, one of the hottest on earth."

Don't you just love the totalitarian dictators of some countries, they can do what ever they want and the crazier the idea is, the better.
Niyazov was my favorite, renaming a month in the calendar after his mother and building statues of himself in gold, ice rinks in the middle of a desert.

Berdimuhamedow looks like a crazy one too, chances of a KHL team in Turkmenistan soon?

Wasn't he the one who banned ballet because it was "unnecessary"?

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Wasn't he the one who banned ballet because it was "unnecessary"?
Hard to argue with that.

I for one welcome the great country of Turkmenistan as our new hockey overlords.

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Good luck, Turkmen!!!

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I for one welcome the great country of Turkmenistan as our new hockey overlords.
Nice one.

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5.5 million people?

Good luck with that.

Maybe find a couple other ex Soviet republics to join up with.

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5.5 million people?

Good luck with that.

Maybe find a couple other ex Soviet republics to join up with.
It's more than Finland

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So, when do we have our first Turkmenistan superstars in the NHL?
A minimum of 15 years. I'll start looking in the 2027 draft class.

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5.5 million people?

Good luck with that.

Maybe find a couple other ex Soviet republics to join up with.
Finland, Slovakia, Denmark and Norway are all around that size yet have top level national teams and several NHLers. Pure population numbers have very little importance when it comes to team sports, particularly a niche sport like hockey.

The real key for success is access to high quality youth development programs.

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Good luck to Turkmenistan, always interesting to hear about new countries propping up in the hockey world.

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With the money they have anything is possible.

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I find it interesting that so far in this thread we're all supporting a dictatorship only because it is endorsing hockey.

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I find it interesting that so far in this thread we're all supporting a dictatorship only because it is endorsing hockey.
Yes, but we're fans of the NHL. With bettman in charge, it's kind of the same thing, isn't it?

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I find it interesting that so far in this thread we're all supporting a dictatorship only because it is endorsing hockey.
I don't think it's supporting the dictatorship so much as just supporting hockey in general. Turkmenistan is a sick joke, the sort of place you laugh at while feeling sorry for the people living there who have to put up with the crazy and the crap, but it'd be nice to have a new 3rd tier hockey nation sometime in the future to go along with the other former Soviet republics and their (mostly) wildly inconsistent programs.

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Kurbanguly Berdymukhamedov's list of things to do:

1. Build Turkmenistan into hockey superpower.

2. Change name to Pete Johnson.

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Kurbanguly Berdymukhamedov's list of things to do:

1. Build Turkmenistan into hockey superpower.

2. Change name to Pete Johnson.
C'mon! You wouldn't wanna see NHL player with name like:

Kurbanguly Berdymukhamedov
Rahym Gurbanmšmmedow
›azguly Hojageldiżew
Gahrymanberdi «oňkażew
Mamed Orazmuhamedov
etc.
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Yes you would!

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C'mon! You wouldn't wanna see NHL player with name like:

Kurbanguly Berdymukhamedov
Rahym Gurbanmšmmedow
›azguly Hojageldiżew
Gahrymanberdi «oňkażew
Mamed Orazmuhamedov
etc.
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Yes you would!
The only reason would be to see Pierre McGuire going nuts in between the benches calling out their names in the event of a line brawl.

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I'd think it takes more time. Country with no hockey culture and maybe hundred hockey youngsters isn't going to make it in 20 years, it takes at least two generations IMO, probably more.
Can you copy and paste this onto every thread that says that Phoenix, Dallas, Atlanta, etc. don't deserve NHL teams because they haven't yet produced huge numbers of NHL prospects?

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