Simple question guys, do you guys think the Craig Rivet trade for Gorges and 1st (Pacioretty) is good enough to make up for Gomez's trade for McDonagh and Higgins?
It was a great trade from Gainey but that's what deadline deals go for, as for the Gomez trade we were basically doing the Rangers a favor and everyone knew they were targeting Gaborik with the money, Gainey is the one that should have asked for a prospect or draft pick to take on that crap salary
Simple question guys, do you guys think the Craig Rivet trade for Gorges and 1st (Pacioretty) is good enough to make up for Gomez's trade for McDonagh and Higgins?
Hockey wise: yes
Money wise: no
But Gainey also traded Ribeiro for Niinimaa... And in one single day made our team super tiny with Cammy and Gionta signings.
It was a great trade from Gainey but that's what deadline deals go for, as for the Gomez trade we were basically doing the Rangers a favor and everyone knew they were targeting Gaborik with the money, Gainey is the one that should have asked for a prospect or draft pick to take on that crap salary
What makes it worse is I doubt anyone else would have taken Gomez. Like you said everyone knew the Rags wanted Gaborik, so why do them a favor, take the salary and give them any useful parts.
Higgins, Valentenko, McDonagh and Doug Janik
for
Gomez, Pyatt and Mike Busto
We overpaid dearly for someone that was overpaid that they didn't want. Take McDonagh out, and that trade makes more sense.
As far as the OP question goes. Every trade is evaluated on its own. We sure could have used McDonagh last year, and this year also if he was here. And last year we didn't have Gomez, just his salary and his roster spot.
A better question would be, if you could can take back both trades, or keep both, which option would you take.
I'd do both trades, seeing how it all played out.
Gomez was ****, but his contract didn't really affect us much when you look at it now then some might think.
In his first year, he was fine, in his second year he was horrible, but I remember RDS reported that the Habs actually made a offer to Brad Richards which would mean that Gauthier was planning to either trade him (there was rumours of him going to the Islanders) or put him in the AHL. And now is he bought out.
For me the piece left out are Gorges, Patches> Mcdonagh
A better question would be, if you could can take back both trades, or keep both, which option would you take.
I'd do both trades, seeing how it all played out.
Gomez was ****, but his contract didn't really affect us much when you look at it now then some might think.
In his first year, he was fine, in his second year he was horrible, but I remember RDS reported that the Habs actually made a offer to Brad Richards which would mean that Gauthier was planning to either trade him (there was rumours of him going to the Islanders) or put him in the AHL. And now is he bought out.
For me the piece left out are Gorges, Patches> Mcdonagh
Obviously it turned out well with Gorges and Pacioretty but the bottom line is McDonagh should have never been moved. 25+ minutes a game you don't get lucky that often to draft or sign players like that on a yearly basis
Obviously it turned out well with Gorges and Pacioretty but the bottom line is McDonagh should have never been moved. 25+ minutes a game you don't get lucky that often to draft or sign players like that on a yearly basis
Agree 100%, and I think everyone agrees with that, so to actually have a discussion about both trades, it might be better to ask that you either would you be ok with Gainey making both those trades, or not making them.
Mutually exclusive and have nothing to do with each other, no offence OP but it just seems like a stupid question. I don't see the logic in these kinds of things, a bad trade is a bad trade, the only thing I can see making one sting less is a Stanley Cup, but that's it.
What makes it worse is I doubt anyone else would have taken Gomez. Like you said everyone knew the Rags wanted Gaborik, so why do them a favor, take the salary and give them any useful parts.
Higgins, Valentenko, McDonagh and Doug Janik
for
Gomez, Pyatt and Mike Busto
We overpaid dearly for someone that was overpaid that they didn't want. Take McDonagh out, and that trade makes more sense.
As far as the OP question goes. Every trade is evaluated on its own. We sure could have used McDonagh last year, and this year also if he was here. And last year we didn't have Gomez, just his salary and his roster spot.
You know what, I really liked Gainey. I thought he was a stand up guy doing the best that he could. But **** when I think back to that UFA season, man did this guy mess up the organization.
You know what, I really liked Gainey. I thought he was a stand up guy doing the best that he could. But **** when I think back to that UFA season, man did this guy mess up the organization.
You know what, I really liked Gainey. I thought he was a stand up guy doing the best that he could. But **** when I think back to that UFA season, man did this guy mess up the organization.
To be fair, that UFA class helped us get the furthest in the playoffs the Habs had been in a decade. So when I think of "messed up organizations"...well we could really be in a lot worse shape, trust me.
To be fair, that UFA class helped us get the furthest in the playoffs the Habs had been in a decade. So when I think of "messed up organizations"...well we could really be in a lot worse shape, trust me.
I agree it could be a whole lot worse. Maybe it's just reading about the Gomez trade over again getting my blood boiling I can barely watch a Rags game seeing Mcdo playing so well.
This debate again? who the ***** cares about that trade anymore? It really wasn't as bad as a lot people make it out to be.
Higgins was a bum who poured his heart and soul into a shot glass and I remember back then that the Canadiens wanted some sort of commitment from McD,but I believe he didn't want to sign or leave school, yet signed with the Rags immediately and was in the NHL a year later.Besides, I'm more than happy having Emelin in that spot anyway.
Boston got roasted for trading Thornton for that package, and how'd that work out for them? Sometimes a terrible trade looks a lot better five years down the road, and the Habs are in much, much better shape than Rangers now, and going forward.
I can barely watch a Rags game seeing Mcdo playing so well.
