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02-28-2013, 03:26 PM
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What would everyone think about a deal between Pittsburgh and Edmonton centered around Kris Letang and Jordan Eberle? (this would probably need done in the offseason since the Pens need Letang for the Playoff run and Letang is due for a big raise)

I love the way Eberle plays the game. Think he would be ideal winger for Crosby.
Edmonton won't trade Eberle. Not even for Letang.

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Great......Now I can be really disappoint again when Perry signs elsewhere in July.
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Edmonton won't trade Eberle. Not even for Letang.
Speaking of Edmonton... wow, I feel bad for those kids with so much talent getting shuttled off to meet their demise. If ever there was a team that needed Therrien, the Oilers right now are that team. A few vets to even out the roster wouldn't hurt either. A guy like Pascal Dupuis would work there.

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Edmonton won't trade Eberle. Not even for Letang.
Eberle or Hall. I'd bet they choose Hall. I think Letang could net a player like Eberle. They'd still have 2 #1 overall wingers in Hall and Yakupov.

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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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Hall - Crosby - Bennett
Kunitz - Malkin - Neal

Kunitz - Crosby - Eberle
Bennett - Malkin - Neal

Kunitz - Crosby - Neal
Bennett - Malkin - Yakupov

Grrr... So many options.

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The D market seems to be weak at the deadline. I wouldnt be surprised to see Orpik shipped in a deal for Perry if we went that route

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02-28-2013, 03:52 PM
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I'm not against moving Orpik anymore. He's clearly on the downslope of his career.

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02-28-2013, 04:02 PM
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The D market seems to be weak at the deadline. I wouldnt be surprised to see Orpik shipped in a deal for Perry if we went that route
33 year old Orpik (who seems to be on the decline) for a 27 year old, former league MVP? We'd really have to sweeten our end of the deal in order to pull that one off, even if Perry is set to become a UFA.

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Orpik + 1st + what for Pominville and Regehr?

they are definitely about to commence a rebuild, and their fans have been offering up Poms and Vanek all over hfbaords. Regehr doesn't seem to be in their plans moving forward and is a pending UFA.

solves our two biggest problems: Crosby's RW and a veteran defensive d-man.

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Speaking of Edmonton... wow, I feel bad for those kids with so much talent getting shuttled off to meet their demise. If ever there was a team that needed Therrien, the Oilers right now are that team. A few vets to even out the roster wouldn't hurt either. A guy like Pascal Dupuis would work there.
Bulking up their blue line (considerably) would make all the difference in the world. That team is loaded with current/potential elite talent up front.

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02-28-2013, 04:04 PM
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Orpik + 1st + what for Pominville and Regehr?

they are definitely about to commence a rebuild, and their fans have been offering up Poms and Vanek all over hfbaords. Regehr doesn't seem to be in their plans moving forward and is a pending UFA.

solves our two biggest problems: Crosby's RW and a vetran defensive d-man.
I'm all for shipping off Orpik. However...is Bylsma?

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02-28-2013, 04:09 PM
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Edmonton won't trade Eberle. Not even for Letang.
And we would not trade Letang, especially for Eberle.

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I'm all for shipping off Orpik. However...is Bylsma?
Yeah I'm on board now as well, actually he probably should have been traded off a year or two ago when his value was probably higher. Would've stung for a bit but at least I think we'd be in a better position now.

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Saw on trade boards, Bob McKenzie reports Perry will not resign in Anaheim and will be a hot commodity at the trade deadline
Holy balls... that's pretty surprising if true. Did the trade board have a TSN link? If not it's 100% BS IMO.

But potentially awesome and scary at the same time. Awesome because we'd get a shot, scary because so will Boston and Philly and they have more roster players they can dangle in front of Anaheim than we do.

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Philly gonna give up Laughton, courtier , 1st round pick 2013 for Perry .
Will piss me off but won't shock me if Philly pays a big price like that. He will instantly become one of the most hated Flyers if he goes there. He would make life difficult for us that's for sure.

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I CALL BS ON MAIN BOARD PERRY RUMOR (that McKenzie is "reporting" he won't sign)...

...I don't see a single thing in his Twitter account or on the web site from the last 48 hours that mentions Perry walking away from negotiation, and it would DEFINITELY be posted as a short story, considering not much is going on right now.

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02-28-2013, 04:14 PM
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I'm not against moving Orpik anymore. He's clearly on the downslope of his career.
Especially given his style of play. It's rare for defensive physical guys to last well into their mid to late thirties and still play at a high level. Their body just breaks down a lot sooner than guys who rely on smarts/positioning.

By the start of next season, he'll be turning 33 years old. How many defensemen can you think of that play the style Orpik has his entire career, that are still prominent players in the league? IMO, he's already showing signs of not being able to sustain his play for multiple games in a row.

If a deal is there to land a top six winger and Orpik is the piece required to do so, I'd pull the trigger because I'm not sure how much longer Orpik's going to have that kind of value.

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02-28-2013, 04:19 PM
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Orpik + 1st + what for Pominville and Regehr?

they are definitely about to commence a rebuild, and their fans have been offering up Poms and Vanek all over hfbaords. Regehr doesn't seem to be in their plans moving forward and is a pending UFA.

solves our two biggest problems: Crosby's RW and a veteran defensive d-man.
A rather asinine trade if you ask me. They're rebuilding, so they acquire a 33 year old d-man? Orpik and Regehr are practically identical, so it's Pominville for a late 1st.

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I CALL BS ON MAIN BOARD PERRY RUMOR (that McKenzie is "reporting" he won't sign)...

...I don't see a single thing in his Twitter account or on the web site from the last 48 hours that mentions Perry walking away from negotiation, and it would DEFINITELY be posted as a short story, considering not much is going on right now.

The vibe i get is Mckenzie is just posting his opinion (not something that was announced)

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After looking at capgeek for a bit, it doesn't look like we can afford to pay any single winger more than 6, 6.5 mil going forward. Likely rules out a long-term Perry deal, but who knows.

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02-28-2013, 04:23 PM
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Especially given his style of play. It's rare for defensive physical guys to last well into their mid to late thirties and still play at a high level. Their body just breaks down a lot sooner than guys who rely on smarts/positioning.

By the start of next season, he'll be turning 33 years old. How many defensemen can you think of that play the style Orpik has his entire career, that are still prominent players in the league? IMO, he's already showing signs of not being able to sustain his play for multiple games in a row.

If a deal is there to land a top six winger and Orpik is the piece required to do so, I'd pull the trigger because I'm not sure how much longer Orpik's going to have that kind of value.
Brooks for Stewart+Cole. A 2nd for Regehr. Promote Despres.

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I hate hearing news like about Corey Perry not re-signing in Anaheim. For just a moment I get excited at the prospects of seeing him in a Pens' uniform, but then my rational side kicks in and realize he's not going to be traded/signed here and we can add his name to the likes of Parise as "just a dream".

In reality, he's exactly what this club could use. He's fantastic in front of the net, a right handed shot, plays with some snarl, and has the ability to score 30+ goals per season. Plus he's still in the prime of his career.

I actually think I'd be more excited about him becoming a Pen than if Parise had signed here, simply because I think his net front presence on the PP is something that could make our PP deadly, and of course, his righty shot.

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Especially given his style of play. It's rare for defensive physical guys to last well into their mid to late thirties and still play at a high level. Their body just breaks down a lot sooner than guys who rely on smarts/positioning.
Hopefully this sort of thinking bodes well for Paul Martin's longevity.

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The vibe i get is Mckenzie is just posting his opinion (not something that was announced)
But that's my point... he didn't post it. Apparently someone on the main board heard it via radio but not one else can confirm? Sounds like BS to me. Seems exactly like the kind of thing he'd tweet even if just his opinion. Also his opinions are always informed. He's not a wild guesser.

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I CALL BS ON MAIN BOARD PERRY RUMOR (that McKenzie is "reporting" he won't sign)...

...I don't see a single thing in his Twitter account or on the web site from the last 48 hours that mentions Perry walking away from negotiation, and it would DEFINITELY be posted as a short story, considering not much is going on right now.
I'v heard him say multiple times lately perry will test free agency unless ducks blow him away with an offer. Hes also said if he don't sign he thinks they will trade him but I haven't heard him say as bluntly as u say. Im not really concerned about him to much if a team trades for him they will have to give up pieces off their roster so it might not help a team as much as u would think he would. It could actually help the pens in a way to if u have a bunch of teams bidding for players like perry iggy and alfie Its alot easier to get one of those pieces rather then a bunch of teams bidding for just iggy.

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Flames signed an offer sheet to ROR

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