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05-20-2013, 11:27 AM
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Stupid. I want him washed away from the raptors. Apparently this isn't what Tim wanted, but BC has a lot of fans on the board.
Colangelo or not, this damn board is a nightmare and always has been.

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Colangelo or not, this damn board is a nightmare and always has been.
Well what do you expect with Tannenbaum, Rogers and Bell running the show.

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Well what do you expect with Tannenbaum, Rogers and Bell running the show.
No kidding! Way too many "fat" heads running this gong show. Ego-centric. I remeber Bobcat saying months ago that one of Rogers or Bell would dissappear eventually and it wont work.

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No kidding! Way too many "fat" heads running this gong show. Ego-centric. I remeber Bobcat saying months ago that one of Rogers or Bell would dissappear eventually and it wont work.
Bobcat is a fathead too.

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Guess who's representing us at the draft lottery tomorrow?

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How upside-down is the Bryan Colangelo thing? Despite losing his job, he's still going to represent #Raptors at Tuesday's draft lottery.
What a gongshow. Why can't they just fire BC? Dude is so slimy and phony. Five years no playoffs or rebuild, its easy to justify letting him go. Man you people in Toronto must hate MLSE. Glad I only follow one of their teams.

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Why are we going to the draft lottery? It's not even our pick.

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Why are we going to the draft lottery? It's not even our pick.
Because even though the Raptors traded the pick, it's still theirs in the slim chance they get a top 3 pick.

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What a gongshow. Why can't they just fire BC? Dude is so slimy and phony. Five years no playoffs or rebuild, its easy to justify letting him go. Man you people in Toronto must hate MLSE. Glad I only follow one of their teams.
I'm pretty sure he is still GM till they find a replacement. Also he is still a member of MLSE. It's not a gong show. But this is the internet so I should expect hyperbole.

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Because even though the Raptors traded the pick, it's still theirs in the slim chance they get a top 3 pick.
Who did we give our pick to? Memphis?

Poor raps scouts lol no picks?

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okc has our first?

and suns have our second...

Soft draft though.

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Who did we give our pick to? Memphis?

Poor raps scouts lol no picks?
Houston, and they traded it to OKC

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Who did we give our pick to? Memphis?

Poor raps scouts lol no picks?

Very weak draft class this year so this is a good year to give up that pick it should also be a good year for teams to acquire late 1sts if they want to take a chance on somebody as contending teams close to luxury tax may not want to have that guaranteed contract of a first round pick.

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Who did we give our pick to? Memphis?

Poor raps scouts lol no picks?
Gave it to Houston for Lowry, then they traded it to Oklahoma in the Harden package.

If ever there was a year to sacrifice a pick for a roster trade, it's this year. This draft is awful.

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What a mess this organization is.

If you weren't planning on keeping BC, why the **** is he allowed to make the Rudy Gay trade which is a franchise altering move. I'm not advocating for BC to stay on, I've wanted him gone for years but its just ridiculous a GM can make a trade as big as Rudy Gay/re-signing DeMar/trading for Lowry and not know whether or not you will keep him. The new guy coming in will have a completely different vision of building this team and could blow it all up. If he doesn't, then he has no cap flexibility and will be forced to run out BC's team and that is so ****ed up.

It would be nice if Toronto sports team management weren't such a ****ing disaster from the very top to all the way down to the coaches and this includes the Leafs. Most good teams are well run teams from the top down to the coaches and there is always some sort of consistency in the philosophy.

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05-20-2013, 04:34 PM
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Gave it to Houston for Lowry, then they traded it to Oklahoma in the Harden package.

If ever there was a year to sacrifice a pick for a roster trade, it's this year. This draft is awful.
Agreed. This draft could see Trey Burke go #1 overall. He isn't even close to a Kyrie, Rose, Blake or even a Wall or Davis. No one should be hoping that we move up tomorrow.

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What a mess this organization is.

If you weren't planning on keeping BC, why the **** is he allowed to make the Rudy Gay trade which is a franchise altering move. I'm not advocating for BC to stay on, I've wanted him gone for years but its just ridiculous a GM can make a trade as big as Rudy Gay/re-signing DeMar/trading for Lowry and not know whether or not you will keep him. The new guy coming in will have a completely different vision of building this team and could blow it all up. If he doesn't, then he has no cap flexibility and will be forced to run out BC's team and that is so ****ed up.

It would be nice if Toronto sports team management weren't such a ****ing disaster from the very top to all the way down to the coaches and this includes the Leafs. Most good teams are well run teams from the top down to the coaches and there is always some sort of consistency in the philosophy.
They always do things backwards. Instead of letting things naturally play out, they always have to go and meddle or just run with a quick decision.

Prime example was with the Leafs in hiring a new full-time coach, instead of interim, in Ron Wilson to replace Marice, and they hire Burke a few months after

If Burke had been able to choose his coach after being hired, he might still be here right now, and things might have gone a lot more smoothly.

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05-20-2013, 08:18 PM
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This is going to be another premature firing for MLSE, new guy will come in, make minor moves, BCs core will perform well with the half year together under their belt and make the playoffs next season. Its a bigger problem for BC than us fans but still.


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lol i don't get why everyone is outraged. MLSE finally has a real president, colangelo gets fired, and people are upset?? who cares if he stays on with some meaningless position.

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Bryan Colangelo is out as the president and general manger of the Toronto Raptors but is being offered another senior management position within the NBA club.

The Raptors have yet to confirm the move, but a source within the organization confirmed that the one-time NBA executive of the year will no longer be calling the shots when it comes to the team’s future direction.

“He’s not the happiest guy,” said the source, who did not want to be identified as the club has yet to officially announce the change.

Colangelo learned of his fate last week while he was in Chicago attending the NBA’s pre-draft camp.
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Another consideration to replace Colangelo is Ed Stafanski, who is currently the Raptors’ executive vice-president of basketball operations.

With Colangelo now moving into another, as of yet unspecified, position with the Raptors, the club doesn’t have to rush to appoint a replacement.
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According to the MLSE source, Colangelo still considers himself to be a “basketball guy,” so how long he remains with the Raptors in his new position is a matter of conjecture.

When MLSE relieved Brian Burke of his general manager duties with the Toronto Maple Leafs in January, he was appointed as a special adviser. That lasted for about a month when Burke left to join the Anaheim Ducks as a scout.

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“We’re not going to throw Bryan out as a resource on opinions on basketball on knowledge, on experience,” said one source close to the MLSE board.

But in the next breath it’s clear he won’t be on the inside anymore as the franchise looks elsewhere to sort out a roster that is at once expensive and underwhelming.

“Good general managers won’t take this job unless they have the ability to make all of the final calls,” the source said.
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According to league sources the leading candidate is Ujiri. If that name sounds familiar it’s because he worked for Colangelo for three years, having been hired by the Raptors from Denver in 2008 — more proof that the NBA is a small world after all.

Ujiri, originally from Nigeria by way of England, was initially the Raptors director of international scouting and later became an assistant general manager before returning to Denver as GM in 2010.
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According to league sources Leiweke has asked the Nuggets for permission to talk with Ujiri, who is in the last year of his contract with Denver. For obvious reasons Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke and his son Josh — who serves as the Nuggets president — won’t want to lose him.

Ujiri is reportedly the lowest paid GM in the NBA but he’s in no rush to leave Denver. He apparently turned down an overture from the Philadelphia 76ers to take over as their GM.

But NBA sources have confirmed that Ujiri is at the very least “intrigued” by the opportunity in Toronto, and not just because the Raptors have suggested through back channels (likely an executive search firm contracted to do background work on identified candidates and make third-party approaches to those already under contract with other teams) that he could command a four-year contract worth about $9 million. It’s a nice pay packet in a league where the average general manager earns $1 million per year.

“They have some pieces there,” an NBA source said. “And he likes challenges.”

At the same time he’s hesitant to leave a young, vibrant team he built with his own hands.

At the very least Ujiri appears due for a raise. While it’s believed that Ujiri is open to talking to the Raptors, as of Tuesday morning the Nuggets haven’t responded to Toronto’s request for permission to speak with Ujiri that was made over the weekend.

It only makes sense that before they do respond Denver will negotiate the parameters of a new contract with Ujiri. League sources suggest that Wednesday will be the earliest any formal talks between Ujiri and the Raptors can take place — and only if Ujiri doesn’t get a significant offer on a contract extension from Denver in the meantime.

Otherwise talks with the Raptors could proceed quickly given that Ujiri is familiar with Toronto and still feels a loyalty to the organization for helping elevate his career in its early stages.

Wednesday appears to be the soonest any of that can unfold in any meaningful way. At least by then the role of Colangelo, Ujiri’s former mentor, will be clarified.

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So that is how it ends: the once-golden general manager, the prize, shifted into some vague corporate netherworld that is expected to be defined on Tuesday. Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment CEO Tim Leiweke decided some time ago he did not wish to leave Bryan Colangelo in charge of the basketball operations for the Toronto Raptors, but the final decision wasn’t made until this weekend. So Colangelo waited. He has never liked waiting all that much.

According to sources familiar with the move, Colangelo is not expected to have any role in basketball operations, as difficult as that is to believe. He is a basketball lifer who lives for the deal, the chatter, the chase. It was his best and his worst attribute, and even though he liked to branch out at MLSE — it was said he personally designed the three-part detachable podium that is used in the media room — basketball has been his life.

Whether it’s a ceremonial plum to minority owner Larry Tanenbaum or something more remains open to question, though handing Colangelo a corporate portfolio just after the company was handed to the uber-corporate star, Leiweke, would be bizarre. The two men apparently did not hit it off in private meetings earlier this month; people who knew both of them in a professional capacity said it would be a lousy match.

It appeared Colangelo would be fired at the beginning of last week; that decision was delayed, however, as Colangelo pushed for a president’s job, and Tanenbaum is believed to have tried to help. Masai Ujiri, who was a part of Colangelo’s operation before leaving to be underpaid as the executive of the year in Denver, is said to be a frontrunner for the GM’s job, autonomy, and a hefty raise. If so, he would be like Colangelo, with an award freshly placed upon the shelf; unlike Colangelo when he arrived, he would have far less of a track record to scrutinize. The two men do not view basketball the same way, either, so it would be a little surprising if Ujiri kept following Colangelo’s plan.

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Be sure to catch the live telephone conference calls with Tim Leiweke and Bryan Colangelo discussing the management structure of the Toronto Raptors streaming here at 11 AM on Raptors.com.

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What a mess this organization is.

If you weren't planning on keeping BC, why the **** is he allowed to make the Rudy Gay trade which is a franchise altering move. I'm not advocating for BC to stay on, I've wanted him gone for years but its just ridiculous a GM can make a trade as big as Rudy Gay/re-signing DeMar/trading for Lowry and not know whether or not you will keep him. The new guy coming in will have a completely different vision of building this team and could blow it all up. If he doesn't, then he has no cap flexibility and will be forced to run out BC's team and that is so ****ed up.

It would be nice if Toronto sports team management weren't such a ****ing disaster from the very top to all the way down to the coaches and this includes the Leafs. Most good teams are well run teams from the top down to the coaches and there is always some sort of consistency in the philosophy.
Tell me about it. I thought for sure after the Rudy Gay trade BC was gonna have at least another year. Don't let an exiting GM make a giant trade like that, the new GM might not have wanted to go that direction.

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Bryan Colangelo will be staying on with the Raptors is the role of president; new GM will report directly to Leiweke /1
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@michaelgrange: Colangelo's role as Raps pres will include consulting to Leiweke on bball but also expanding Raptors footprint nationally
So...technically BC got promoted from GM to President? Reminds me of the Oilers promoting Lowe to president after doing as bad of a job. KL still has his hands on the Oilers despite walking away from the day to day operations. Hopefully the same isn't the case here.

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