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03-07-2013, 12:51 PM
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You'd think Latendresse was 38 years old by how some of you are so eager to get rid of him.

He's 25. He's huge. He's proven that he can score in the league (25 Goals in 55 Games) and he's had a misdiagnosed injury that has finally been figured out.

This is not the time to cut him loose. He's a worthwhile project.

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03-07-2013, 12:56 PM
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You'd think Latendresse was 38 years old by how some of you are so eager to get rid of him.

He's 25. He's huge. He's proven that he can score in the league (25 Goals in 55 Games) and he's had a misdiagnosed injury that has finally been figured out.

This is not the time to cut him loose. He's a worthwhile project.
It can't hurt to have him around, it's not like this team is starving for cap space.

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How naive.
He's an RFA. I don't predict any change in UFA deals, besides of course the fact that a 15 yr deal is no longer legal, but we will see far more cheap, bridge deals for RFAs.

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You'd think Latendresse was 38 years old by how some of you are so eager to get rid of him.

He's 25. He's huge. He's proven that he can score in the league (25 Goals in 55 Games) and he's had a misdiagnosed injury that has finally been figured out.

This is not the time to cut him loose. He's a worthwhile project.
I agree and next to Neil he is the best guy we have to throw in front of the opposing goal. I just hope hes not tentative now after this whiplash thing. If hes willing to get in front of the net he probably is going to get lots of garbage goals for us.

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03-07-2013, 01:13 PM
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They'll find ways around that.

They always do.

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The attitude most of this board has towards him is absolutely ridiculous.
Routine... Bias + scapegoating

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I cannot believe how much this board hates this guy. We need someone that can put the puck in the net, and he can. In his games here he had a number of chances but just couldnt convert. Even if it takes him 10 games to get there that is still better than half the forwards we have right now.
If he scored 3 goals in his 6 games instead of hitting the posts and get stopped by goalies, he would have been talked as the next best thing... It's ALL OR NOTHING for this fanbase, I call it the Karlsson/Alfredsson syndrome. It's Alfie/EK or bust

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i'm in the camp to let this guy play the season out and see what we got. he played what, 6 games? this was after a long break. he might have (or might not have depending who you believe) been in good physical shape, but he wasn't in game shape.
This... he played 33 NHL games in 3 years (with stupid lockout)... of course he isn't in game shape

Latendresse isn't a fast skater and never will be but he is a PP specialist and a guy who can be added to a line that spends a lot of time in the offensive zone (that's why I really wanted from the start Latendresse-Spezza-Michalek). He can protect the puck very well, is hard to knock off the puck, can cycle it for long periods, is strong along the boards, throws a lot of hits, and most importantly, goes to the net hard and has the ability to score.

Latendresse-Spezza-Michalek
Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Greening-Regin-Silfverberg
Condra-Smith-Neil
O'Brien/Daugavins

AFAIK, Mark Stone isn't a fast skater but is he a bust because of it? No, Stone has "healthy Latendresse" potential, with better vision and hockey IQ

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03-07-2013, 02:12 PM
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He's an RFA. I don't predict any change in UFA deals, besides of course the fact that a 15 yr deal is no longer legal, but we will see far more cheap, bridge deals for RFAs.
Are you talking about Perry? Perry is a UFA in July.

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Routine... Bias + scapegoating



If he scored 3 goals in his 6 games instead of hitting the posts and get stopped by goalies, he would have been talked as the next best thing... It's ALL OR NOTHING for this fanbase, I call it the Karlsson/Alfredsson syndrome. It's Alfie/EK or bust



This... he played 33 NHL games in 3 years (with stupid lockout)... of course he isn't in game shape

Latendresse isn't a fast skater and never will be but he is a PP specialist and a guy who can be added to a line that spends a lot of time in the offensive zone (that's why I really wanted from the start Latendresse-Spezza-Michalek). He can protect the puck very well, is hard to knock off the puck, can cycle it for long periods, is strong along the boards, throws a lot of hits, and most importantly, goes to the net hard and has the ability to score.

Latendresse-Spezza-Michalek
Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Greening-Regin-Silfverberg
Condra-Smith-Neil
O'Brien/Daugavins

AFAIK, Mark Stone isn't a fast skater but is he a bust because of it? No, Stone has "healthy Latendresse" potential, with better vision and hockey IQ
I think everyone's criticism of him stems from the fact we were sold on the fact that he was ready to play and in the first 6 games he was not, at all. In your first few games whether you have your legs or not the adrenaline is enough to to keep you going. Then he got hurt where no one could determine what caused it. His neck injury had not healed properly and it showed and he most likely re-injured it 6 games in. No one here doubts that if he is 100% healthy he can really help this team.

At this point nothing he has done has proven him to be an asset for us except for 1 nice assist.

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03-07-2013, 10:20 PM
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I think everyone's criticism of him stems from the fact we were sold on the fact that he was ready to play and in the first 6 games he was not, at all. In your first few games whether you have your legs or not the adrenaline is enough to to keep you going. Then he got hurt where no one could determine what caused it. His neck injury had not healed properly and it showed and he most likely re-injured it 6 games in. No one here doubts that if he is 100% healthy he can really help this team.

At this point nothing he has done has proven him to be an asset for us except for 1 nice assist.
I think you are mistaken with Latendresse style of play. He is not a flashy fast skating player. He is a guy that hits a lot, protects the puck very well, cycles it very well and create havoc in front of the net and scores goals from there and with his quality shot. I could see him having success with Spezza and Michalek

He plays a bit like he did in fact except that he is in game shape when he is healthy long enough and that he converts more on his chances.

If he scored 3 goals in his first 6 games, the whole conversation would be completely different, need a bigger sample size (consecutive games). Like I said, again, he played 33 NHL games in 3 years. In that context, it is so foolish to expect a player to be "in game shape" at this level, adrenaline or not.

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03-10-2013, 11:04 AM
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Hey! Fatty is back on a line with Silfverberg and Turris today.

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Hey! Fatty is back on a line with Silfverberg and Turris today.
I would love nothing more for Latendresse to come back in game shape, stay healthy and start playing a power forward position.

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Hey! Fatty is back on a line with Silfverberg and Turris today.
Excuse me we have rules here.

Fatty = Bruce Garrioch
Fatendresse = Latendresse


If Latendresse comes back on a tear, I would give him another chance next year. But He has to prove he is in shape and still able to compete at the NHL level.

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Excuse me we have rules here.

Fatty = Bruce Garrioch
Fatendresse = Latendresse


If Latendresse comes back on a tear, I would give him another chance next year. But He has to prove he is in shape and still able to compete at the NHL level.
Hey buddy, I've been here long enough to dictate what nicknames I can attribute to each individual. Garrioch is Garrihack or bigbrucie in my book.

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03-10-2013, 01:20 PM
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Latendresse has had the same surgery that Cowen just had.

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So who sits for him?

O'Brien, someone else?

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Good news! Any bit of proven scoring punch will help.

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I agree and next to Neil he is the best guy we have to throw in front of the opposing goal. I just hope hes not tentative now after this whiplash thing. If hes willing to get in front of the net he probably is going to get lots of garbage goals for us.
The only problem I see with Latendresse is his lack of speed, he really couldn't keep up with Alfie and Turris.

So while I realize he isn't 38, he skates slower than a forty year old we all know.

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Good news! Any bit of proven scoring punch will help.
He hasn't proven **** since 09-10 though. Given our scoring situation, he deserves a chance, but I am not optimistic. I highly doubt he'll be in the lineup if we make the playoffs.

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Silfverberg is kinda slow too so should work well

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Silfverberg is kinda slow too so should work well
Compared to Lats he is Havlat in his prime.

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Interview with Latendresse today. He'll have a baseline test today, if he passes that, then the coaches will see if he's game shape. http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=main/latest/1/0/881653/clip/360

Looks good for his return soon!

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This is good news - just having healthy veteran bodies to put in the line-up is good.

Regardless of what you think of him at this stage he is a proven NHL player and we haven't had many of those on the ice this year. Hope he gets his (albeit somewhat plodding) legs back in a hurry and fits in the top 6 for the rest of the year.

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The only problem I see with Latendresse is his lack of speed, he really couldn't keep up with Alfie and Turris.

So while I realize he isn't 38, he skates slower than a forty year old we all know.
excellent point.

Im watching alfredsson and thinking "damn, alfredsson is really getting slow out there. He doesn't have that jump he used to to cause seperation for good scoring chances...and then realize that latendresse can't even keep up with our aging alfredsson.

Who's faster, latendresse or cheechoo? Honestly. They both look slow and skate like a houseleaguer.

I remember i used to have a terrible stride which made me so slow. I spent one summer going to 3 power skating camps...Even went to Acceleration in the Corel Center at the time. Instantly my stride was so smooth, and i could cruise at my previous top speed effortlessly.

What i don't get, is if a guy like latendresse is so naturally talented at hockey to be able to make it to the NHL, and has been on the ice 4 times as much as me in his career, why the F can't he skate properly? He's not getting anywhere near the most power out of his stride. It's awkward and ineffective. I'm not asking him to skate like michalek, but why can't he skate like an NHL player? He legit,like cheechoo, looks like a houseleaguer who has trouble keeping balance on his skates.

Am i the only one who sees it this way? I never see latendresse fully extend his legs to get a full stride...surely someone must have taught him how to skate efficiently, no?

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I guess Latendresse has until the trade deadline to show us why he shouldn`t be traded. Although I`m not quite sure how much value he has & whether he would be worth anything being a UFA at season`s end. I hope he tears it up but I won`t be holding my breath, in fact, I doubt he is re-signed. Injuries plus deteriating skill set & lack of speed not only do not fit in Maclean`s sytem, they don`t seem to fit anywhere in the NHL these days. We`ll see, but he is slowly running out of time.

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I guess Latendresse has until the trade deadline to show us why he shouldn`t be traded. Although I`m not quite sure how much value he has & whether he would be worth anything being a UFA at season`s end. I hope he tears it up but I won`t be holding my breath, in fact, I doubt he is re-signed. Injuries plus deteriating skill set & lack of speed not only do not fit in Maclean`s sytem, they don`t seem to fit anywhere in the NHL these days. We`ll see, but he is slowly running out of time.
He only gets traded if he absolutely rips it up between now and the deadline and the Sens somehow fall out of playoff contention. The odds of that happening are like 1%.

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