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Waco raid - 20 years ago today - has your perspective changed?

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02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
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As a matter of fact..

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02-28-2013, 03:48 PM
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Making a statement that's insane doesn't necessarily require the stater be insane, too.

Again, as I've repeatedly tried desperately to get people to understand on this board, a statement about a position or belief does not mean that statement is being implied to be referring to the person or persons holding those positions/beliefs.



That certificate doesn't necessarily mean you're sane.
I'll gladly take the ambiguity of 'not insane,' at least it has the word 'not' in it.

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02-28-2013, 05:02 PM
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yup.


To clear it up, what Epsilon and Co wont care about anyhow. The Establishment is supposed to be active in satanic cult and okkultism. Like the Skull & Bones fraterity at Yale for example.

The way I understand it the people at Wako were strong believers, maybe depicted by the media as a christian extremism ... they believed in a conspiracy by Satan through the "government"

Sacrificial death is not uncommon. TuPac, Biggie, Aliya ... it is out there
Wait, so the U.S. Government is actually a front for the activities of Satan on Earth, and the Branch Davidians knew about this, so the U.S Gov. sacrificed them to Satan?

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As a matter of fact..

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Wait, so the U.S. Government is actually a front for the activities of Satan on Earth, and the Branch Davidians knew about this, so the U.S Gov. sacrificed them to Satan?
Many people have sacrificed to Satan apperantely.

Again, not the actual US-Government, that one ceased to exist in 1913. But yes, the Establishment, within the US gov. has satanic background. Also Hollywood and Music Industry. No **** ... really.

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Many people have sacrificed to Satan apperantely.

Again, not the actual US-Government, that one ceased to exist in 1913. But yes, the Establishment, within the US gov. has satanic background. Also Hollywood and Music Industry. No **** ... really.
So the Establishment, in conjunction with Hollywood and the Music Industry, sacrificed the Branch Davidians to Satan.

I believe that, at the very least, the ATF screwed up horribly at Waco. And I thought I was crazy.


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Many people have sacrificed to Satan apperantely.

Again, not the actual US-Government, that one ceased to exist in 1913. But yes, the Establishment, within the US gov. has satanic background. Also Hollywood and Music Industry. No **** ... really.
Someone seriously needs to test you for insanity. This reaches schizophrenic levels.

Then again, you probably thing the diagnosis of schizophrenia is also a part of the Establishment's plan to pay tributes to Satan, which really would just prove my point.

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02-28-2013, 07:47 PM
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So the Establishment, in conjunction with Hollywood and the Music Industry, sacrificed the Branch Davidians to Satan.

I believe that, at the very least, the ATF screwed up horribly at Waco. And I thought I was crazy.
Not what I am saying.

To the bold: The tip of the iceberg dude. And I am happy for you. Don't think you are crazy. This world is crazy.

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02-28-2013, 07:51 PM
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Someone seriously needs to test you for insanity. This reaches schizophrenic levels.

Then again, you probably thing the diagnosis of schizophrenia is also a part of the Establishment's plan to pay tributes to Satan, which really would just prove my point.
Dude, I am just an observateur. Its not like I am an apocalyptical extremist. I am a historian. And history thought me these things.

Its not like I am making this up ... it has been made up a long time ago.

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Not what I am saying.

To the bold: The tip of the iceberg dude. And I am happy for you. Don't think you are crazy. This world is crazy.
Let's say all the crazy crap you believe is true. How has any of it affected you directly? What have you done to change any of it?

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I believe that, at the very least, the ATF screwed up horribly at Waco. And I thought I was crazy.
Yeah. Koresh was a piece of garbage that needed to be dealt with, but Waco was a great example of what not to do in a siege that involves a religious cult of which many of the members are children. The authorities were either unable to foresee the consequences of their actions or they simply didn't care. I'm not sure which is worse.

The talk of Alex Jones is just stupid. Yeah, people like NYRFAN think there's a "conspiracy" behind it, but he can find a conspiracy in anything. Questioning the actions of the authorities is in no way a conspiracy theory, nor does it make you like Alex Jones.

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Dude, I am just an observateur. Its not like I am an apocalyptical extremist. I am a historian. And history thought me these things.
Naa, I think the voices in your head and the vision you have told you these things.

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Its not like I am making this up ... it has been made up a long time ago.
Sure it has.

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The talk of Alex Jones is just stupid. Yeah, people like NYRFAN think there's a "conspiracy" behind it, but he can find a conspiracy in anything. Questioning the actions of the authorities is in no way a conspiracy theory, nor does it make you like Alex Jones.
Messing with the conspiracy nuts on this site - of which the OP is one - is just way too much fun to pass up.

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Just a friendly reminder that only the state has the exclusive right to engage in the murder of innocents on a grand scale.

(I would mention that more children died in Waco than in Newton, but it appears the liberal hack brigade is already out in force so I'll let that unsettling observation slide).

For anyone interested in the connections between state power, Waco, and Timothy McVeigh, I highly recommend the following article by legendary American social critic and historian Gore Vidal:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f.../mcveigh200109
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Let's say all the crazy crap you believe is true. How has any of it affected you directly? What have you done to change any of it?
Not going there dude, because everybody could/would handle it differently. It is very very diffucult to say what I have done so far.

I spread the word but in Germany people are badly blinded. At least some of the FB friends got activated. I also researched more and more and more.

To change any of it, honestly, I'd have to wait. Speaking up too loud too early would make the idea simply vanish. Nobody would listen. Mockery.

Yet, informing the masses at the right point might the only thing left to do. Let the market crash, then get on the streets and **** the banking and political sector correctly.

Or, let Israel attack Iran, thats another good moment to go on the streets and demand a peace treaty ... that is - as far as I have come -the only solution to this monopolized ******** ass world system.

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Nice to see that slip is obsessing about the 20 year anniversary of the massacre of innocent children in Texas while on vacation with his family in Hawai'i. Because that's definitely what I would be doing. Definitely not, say, enjoying the beautiful beaches or relaxing or hiking or conversing with my loved ones.

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I spread the word but in Germany people are badly blinded.
Yes amazing how all these people are blinded while being productive and profitable members of society while people like yourself have bravely shunned the Illuminati and New World Order to live in your parents' basement instead.

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Nice to see that slip is obsessing about the 20 year anniversary of the massacre of innocent children in Texas while on vacation with his family in Hawai'i. Because that's definitely what I would be doing. Definitely not, say, enjoying the beautiful beaches or relaxing or hiking or conversing with my loved ones.
Meh, I'm the same way, can't stop the cynics!

My idea of a good time is a hot place, a cold drink, and contentious debate.

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Nice to see that slip is obsessing about the 20 year anniversary of the massacre of innocent children in Texas while on vacation with his family in Hawai'i. Because that's definitely what I would be doing. Definitely not, say, enjoying the beautiful beaches or relaxing or hiking or conversing with my loved ones.
I'm looking out my window, and I see snow.

Can't stay in paradise forever.

I guess shooting a couple posts off from the comfort of my beach cabana last week now constitutes familial neglect.

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Meh, I'm the same way, can't stop the cynics!

My idea of a good time is a hot place, a cold drink, and contentious debate.
My idea of a good time in Hawai'i is not thinking about any of that ****.

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You literally offer no opinions on anything. You quote the Simpsons and other TV shows and post images.
I think you have him confused with me.

I've said it time and time again, Democracy simply doesn't work.

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I think you have him confused with me.

I've said it time and time again, Democracy simply doesn't work.
*Insert every quote about democracy being the best option*

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I've said it time and time again, Democracy simply doesn't work.
I agree but did you stop there? Democracy is an illusion, fine. What we ought to do?

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Just a friendly reminder that only the state has the exclusive right to engage in the murder of innocents on a grand scale.

(I would mention that more children died in Waco than in Newton, but it appears the liberal hack brigade is already out in force so I'll let that unsettling observation slide).

For anyone interested in the connections between state power, Waco, and Timothy McVeigh, I highly recommend the following article by legendary American social critic and historian Gore Vidal:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f.../mcveigh200109
Facts this, facts that.......get a life.

Do us all a favour and make stuff up.

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