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02-28-2013, 05:44 PM
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Avs statement on this:

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“The Avalanche organization was notified of the offer sheet earlier this afternoon. Per the Collective Bargaining Agreement, in the case of an offer sheet, NHL teams have seven days to either match the offer or accept compensation. The Avalanche will have further comments when a decision is made.”
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I think it is the old way, 14th winning lottery meant they move up 5 spots to 9. But new form, I think it is 14th winning lottery means 1st overall. That's what the change is IIRC
I meant they should have worded it better because it can be confusing.

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At the conclusion of the 2012-13 season, the odds for all 14 non-playoff teams will be the same but the club selected in the Lottery will be awarded the first-overall pick.
That sentence makes it sound like everyone has the same odds to get the 1st overall pick but what it really means is that the odds for the lottery is the same as last year and the only difference is that the team who wins the lottery, gets the 1st overall pick.

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A lot of Leaf fans posting that this situation reminds them a lot of Kessel and Kessel is by far the better player.

Maybe we should take the risk and get the picks?!

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I dont think they will match . The Avs must think about their other young players and what will it do to their salary stucture in the future . They have to think about players like Duchene and Lando , who they will have to put under contract soon .
I think i would gamble on the draft picks.

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And most people laughed at me for offering a 1st, top 4 D and a good prospect.


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They match this offer and Stastny's days are numbered.

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I think the next three games for Flames will have a big impact on what Avs will do.

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Match it and then trade Stastny for a D-man. Dont let this b a repeat of letting Drury going to Flames for like nothing.

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I feel like the Avs could've done better in a trade.
I'll bet they feel the same way, which is why I have a hard time believing they'll let him walk for a 1st and a 3rd. All reports were they were asking for a substantial return, so I don't think they're high fiving at the idea of a couple of draft picks, qualifying offers and salaries be damned.

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And most people laughed at me for offering a 1st, top 4 D and a good prospect.

So your saying Tallinder who handles the puck like a grenade and Tedenby who can't crack the NHL is " top 4 and good prospect"? Riveting...

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A lot of Leaf fans posting that this situation reminds them a lot of Kessel and Kessel is by far the better player.

Maybe we should take the risk and get the picks?!
Kessel got two 1st and a 2nd. The flames arent a bottom 5 team, if the avs takes the pickes ill be pissed.

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And most people laughed at me for offering a 1st, top 4 D and a good prospect.

LOL what are talking about. Avs didn't trade him, he signed on his own accord.

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They match this offer and Stastny's days are numbered.
Stastny did it to himself. If he was playing like a true number one we would NOT match this but hes playing like Shawn Horcoff and deserves his ticket out of here for some D help.

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A lot of Leaf fans posting that this situation reminds them a lot of Kessel and Kessel is by far the better player.

Maybe we should take the risk and get the picks?!
Toronto fans think Kessel is the 2nd coming of Christ so I wouldn't put too much stock into what they think. Kessel at the same age was marginally better than RoR is now. You could argue that RoR's complete game makes him the better choice. Granted the return the Bruins got for Kessel was probably way too much as well.

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Kessel got two 1st and a 2nd. The flames arent a bottom 5 team, if the avs takes the pickes ill be pissed.
I think Flames have the potential to be a bottom 5 team.

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There is no way the Avs decide until the last minute.

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$6.5m? $3m more than Duchene? $2.25m more than Johnson? What are the Flames thinking?

I've lost all respect for O'Reilly. I don't want his kind on our team. I can't imagine there aren't numerous individuals in the locker room who feel the same way too. He's insulted all of his teammates, not to mention the fans. It really was all about the money.

EDIT: Wrong numbers, sorry. Point still stands.


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We match, and all future RFAs will have that much more reason to push the Avs on getting bigger deals. Not that 6.5m is not enough reason, but Avs need to not reward a "me first" attitude. This is a cap killer deal for many teams, and I can't see any reason to match.
Worst case Scenario, trade Stazz and our lowest 1st to move up in the draft to get a new center and sign Bozak this summer. We'll have the money not spent on a 6.5m/yr sheet.

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There is no way the Avs decide until the last minute.
Why would they decline quickly. If they plan to not match, the least they can do is force him to wait the whole week.

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Yup, Bob Mack tweeted and said most Gm's felt the Avs could get more then a 1st and 3rd for ROR.

The way I see it here there are potentially 2 risks, 1 from each possible Avs decision:


1) They let him walk and take the picks, then its a risk of where those picks wind up, anything out of the top 10 and it is a loss for the Avs IMO.

2) They match and have the risk of whether ROR can at the very least repeat his 55 point season. If he can repeat or even improve those numbers, then he becomes a very valuable asset again to either sign long term for fair money, or trade at next years deadline for the return we want. BUT if ROR doesn't put up the same numbers and regresses, then were stuck with a horrible contract and basically have to let him walk after 2 year(as he wont be worth anything close to the 6.5M then).


So by that approach, letting him walk is far less riskier but not nearly as rewarding. While signing him could really backfire or we could make out like bandits again.

Hard to tell, I think the Avs could still go either way very easily in all of this.

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Whatever happens, Ryan O'Reilly is going to get approximately $2.9M for playing less than 30 reg season games this NHL season.

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Stastny did it to himself. If he was playing like a true number one we would NOT match this but hes playing like Shawn Horcoff and deserves his ticket out of here for some D help.
You know everytime I think of ROR signing this huge contract and what he will play like after I always think he's gonna look like Horcoff.

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We match, and all future RFAs will have that much more reason to push the Avs on getting bigger deals. Not that 6.5m is not enough reason, but Avs need to not reward a "me first" attitude. This is a cap killer deal for many teams, and I can't see any reason to match.
Worst case Scenario, trade Stazz and our lowest 1st to move up in the draft to get a new center and sign Bozak this summer. We'll have the money not spent on a 6.5m/yr sheet.
You think that is the WORST case scenario? It will get MUCH worse than that.

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Judging by some of the posts in here you'd think no one remembers Sakic once signed a ridiculously overpriced offersheet.

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I say let him walk and double up on 1st rounders for this awesome draft. It's like flipping a 2nd (though a successful one) for a 1st/3rd. That's highway robbery on paper.


If you buy a $5 scratch ticket and you scratch it and it's a $100 winner, would you trade it for a $10 scratch ticket and a $2 scratch ticket? I sure as hell wouldn't, I'd take the guaranteed return over a chance you get nothing worthwhile. Should Pittsburgh trade Crosby for a 1st overall and two 2nds? Using your logic that's highway robbery! You only spent one first overall on Crosby, and you get 2 2nds by flipping him! The reality is that Crosby is worth far, far more than that. O'Reilly is worth far more than just a 2nd. The $5 scratch ticket that you know is a $100 winner is worth more than the $10 scratch ticket that's unlikely to win you more than the $100 you already have.

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