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03-25-2013, 03:14 PM
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Why should Stars trade one of their few quality assets that are locked up long-term...?
Better yet to a division rival?

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03-25-2013, 03:21 PM
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There are no overtime losses rewarded with points in playoffs, isn`t there.

We have won 1 game in 5 ''series'' games vs Phoenix and Detroit. While it may not mean we will be out in the first round, those aren`t good news either, imo. There was some factors in those games, but it doesnt matter, the thing that matters, is the win
There's also no shootout. The Ducks could easily have won those games with five on five for a full period or more. Plus those weren't playoff games. Everything changes come playoff time. If you look at season series alone we should never have beaten the Red Wings in 03 and 07.

As long as we win the division and this team is hungry enough we will be fine.

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03-25-2013, 03:22 PM
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Better yet to a division rival?
We're only division rivals for another 15 games or so. That won't prevent them from trading with us.

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03-25-2013, 11:27 PM
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It's kind of a painful thing to say, but I think this team would do better with Selanne out of the lineup. He doesn't fit with anyone.

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03-25-2013, 11:33 PM
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If this team has to play Lovejoy with fowler than something needs to happen. I'm on the trade Allen party. I also have no issues moving Sbisa for a top six forward. His value is only going to go down IMO. Re-sign Lydman and let Allen go. He and Sbisa are pathetic and for a 5 million dollar plus pairing, they aren't worth it.

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03-26-2013, 12:52 AM
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Lineup for next game please:

Palmieri-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Holland-Etem
Cogliano-Koivu-Selanne
Winnik-Steckel-Beleskey

Souray-Beauch
Lydman-Fowler
Sbisa-Lovejoy


Send Allen to a skating camp to Antarctica and don't send the boat to fetch him.

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03-26-2013, 12:53 AM
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Also i want Bones back over Steckel when he returns.

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03-26-2013, 12:57 AM
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im pretty done with bobby ryan.... trade him.

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03-26-2013, 12:59 AM
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Lineup for next game please:

Palmieri-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Holland-Etem
Cogliano-Koivu-Selanne
Winnik-Steckel-Beleskey

Souray-Beauch
Lydman-Fowler
Sbisa-Lovejoy


Send Allen to a skating camp to Antarctica and don't send the boat to fetch him.
Pretty close to what I'd like to see.
Rather see Sbisa-Fowler on D and keep the 3rd line intact. Selanne is best suited at this point to 4th line minutes at even strength with 2nd unit power-play time IMO.

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03-26-2013, 12:59 AM
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defense has to be addressed, we can score goals, to many mediocre guys after the top 3

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03-26-2013, 01:03 AM
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im pretty done with bobby ryan.... trade him.
I'm over him too. I'd love to get back a two heart and soul players like Coots and Simmonds

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03-26-2013, 01:07 AM
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I'm over him too. I'd love to get back a two heart and soul players like Coots and Simmonds
If we could bring in coots + simmonds for ryan... im guessing wed have to add a prospect or pick, id be way down, simmonds i think would fit perfect with perry and getz

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03-26-2013, 01:10 AM
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If we could bring in coots + simmonds for ryan... im guessing wed have to add a prospect or pick, id be way down, simmonds i think would fit perfect with perry and getz
Agreed, then we could build a long term second line of Palms-Coots-Etem. Holland becomes trade bait...Rakell/Bonino = Koivu replacement

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03-26-2013, 01:14 AM
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Agreed, then we could build a long term second line of Palms-Coots-Etem. Holland becomes trade bait...Rakell/Bonino = Koivu replacement
we'd probably have to send holland back for coots. flyers aren't gonna part with him for anything besides overpayment

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03-26-2013, 01:16 AM
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Agreed, then we could build a long term second line of Palms-Coots-Etem. Holland becomes trade bait...Rakell/Bonino = Koivu replacement
Simmons Getz Perry
Palms Coots Etem
Winnick Rakell Cogliano
Bonino Maroon (free agent/ready prospect)


tho i wouldnt mind bringing koivu back for a year

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03-26-2013, 01:17 AM
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I'm also sick of Ryan

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03-26-2013, 01:17 AM
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I'm also sick of Ryan
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03-26-2013, 01:18 AM
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Palms Coots Etem
Winnick Rakell Cogliano
Bonino Maroon (free agent/ready prospect)


tho i wouldnt mind bringing koivu back for a year
Damn. Not gonna lie...that looks pretty sexy. Then consider the fact that we could trade Holland in a separate deal for defense help (Someone better than fricken Allen)

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03-26-2013, 01:20 AM
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we'd probably have to send holland back for coots. flyers aren't gonna part with him for anything besides overpayment
If we have to trade Ryan AND Holland for Couturier, Philly can go **** off. It's Bobby for Couturier +, or no deal. Bobby still has a lot more trade value than Couturier.

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03-26-2013, 01:23 AM
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Palms Coots Etem
Winnick Rakell Cogliano
Bonino Maroon (free agent/ready prospect)


tho i wouldnt mind bringing koivu back for a year
We can also keep Holland (though I wouldn't mind him being in a package for a good defenseman)...

Palmieri-Getzlaf-Perry
Holland-Couturier-Etem
Winnik-Rakell/Koivu-Cogliano
Maroon-Bonino-DSP/other
Staubitz

EDIT: Crap, I don't know where to put Simmonds. (Not a bad problem to have, though )

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03-26-2013, 01:28 AM
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We can also keep Holland (though I wouldn't mind him being in a package for a good defenseman)...

Palmieri-Getzlaf-Perry
Holland-Couturier-Etem
Winnik-Rakell/Koivu-Cogliano
Maroon-Bonino-DSP/other
Staubitz

EDIT: Crap, I don't know where to put Simmonds. (Not a bad problem to have, though )
The thing that entices me is packaging Bobby and Sbisa. Murray should see if he could bring back Coots, Simmonds, and the 2014 first round pick for Bobby and Sbisa. Then flip Holland for a replacement (upgrade) for Sbisa. Then get rid of Allen and have Lindholm and Vatanen battle for the alst defense spot with the loser spending another year in the A

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03-26-2013, 01:36 AM
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Couturier isn't a legit second line center right now. We aren't trading Ryan for more inexperience. They aren't going to part with Simmonds, either.

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03-26-2013, 01:47 AM
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Couturier isn't a legit second line center right now. We aren't trading Ryan for more inexperience. They aren't going to part with Simmonds, either.
I don't know about that one. If they got Ryan and Sbisa back they might be willing to part with Coots and Simmonds (Bobby replaces Simmonds). They would then have one of the best lines in hockey: Ryan-Giroux-Voracek

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I've been sick of Ryan for the past 2 years. He is so streaky it's incredible. It's sad to see someone like him go, but I wished he was traded last year when all the talk was surrounding him. He's just too slow and not that great.

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03-26-2013, 02:09 AM
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so if you were bob murray, what assets are you willing to part with to improve the team?

only untouchables right now:
Getzlaf
Perry
Selanne
Koivu
Fowler
Beauchemin
Lindholm
Etem
Palmieri

I think anyone else in the organization can be negotiated for the right deal(realistic)

Roy and Regehr seem like reasonable targets, what's the price?

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