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03-04-2013, 07:47 AM
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Lemieux & Lafontaine, as mentioned, obliterated that.

IF you are counting playoff points, Lemieux had 330+ pts that year. He had 52pts in 14 games, that's just disgusting. Pat would be at 289pts (Reg + PO's).
Wtf man...

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03-04-2013, 07:48 AM
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Pat LaFontaine, Verdun 1982-1983

70 GP
104 Goals
130 Assists

Of course, doesn't touch Mario's following season, but still... And Patty wasn't exactly the big dude Mario was.

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03-04-2013, 07:53 AM
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Ray Ferraro had a helluva year in the WHL
72 GP
108 G
84 A
192 PTs

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03-04-2013, 07:56 AM
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What about players in Europe?

Some greats from Finland are Granlund (43gp 13+27=40), O. Jokinen (50gp 14+27=41) and Selänne (42gp 33+25=58 [he played 11 games prior to that so I don't know if you can count it as rookie season]).

How about them Swedes, Russians or Czech and Slovakians for that matter?

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03-04-2013, 09:10 AM
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Selänne (42gp 33+25=58 [he played 11 games prior to that so I don't know if you can count it as rookie season]).
Yep, Selänne was still a rookie after playing 11 games the season before. Journalists, who did the voting for the rookie of the year, were not aware of Selänne´s rookie status, so they voted Janne Grönvall for the Rookie of the year award

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03-04-2013, 09:17 AM
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Patrick Kane's numbers are pretty good in his only season in the OHL with London.

145 points (62 G, 83 A) in 58 regular season games.

31 points (10 G, 21 A) in 16 playoff games.

Missed some time during the regular season for the WJC's so his numbers could have been even bigger.

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03-04-2013, 09:36 AM
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Greg Hawgood, defense 1987-88:

63 48 85 133

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03-04-2013, 09:43 AM
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Eric Lindros putting up 149 points (71G, 78A) and 189 PIMs in 57 games in the OHL

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Gretzky had 182 points as a 16 year old (70+112). 9 months younger than Lemieux was when he put up 184.

As a 17 year old he played in the WHA and put up 110 points in 80 games.

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03-04-2013, 10:51 AM
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I like Gretzky's little league numbers. Like 400 goals and 200 assists in a season haha.

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Gretzky...I know, right? Read the story (from his coach) about his epic powerplay goals in the 3rd period of a game...Wayne could destroy a team whenever he wanted to.

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03-04-2013, 11:04 AM
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Gretzky had 182 points as a 16 year old (70+112). 9 months younger than Lemieux was when he put up 184.

As a 17 year old he played in the WHA and put up 110 points in 80 games.
Gretzky's 182 points is the second highest total ever in the OHL but he never won the scoring title as Bobby Smith set the record the same year with a line of 69-123-192. Of course Smith was 19 and Gretzky 16.

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03-04-2013, 11:08 AM
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Gretzky probably, the 110 point in the WHA or the others seasons, because of his age.

I think stat wise, in comparaison with the ppg that season of the league, age of the player, etc... and everything Lafontaine had the greatest in the Q.

Followed by Lemieux, Crosby and Lafleur.

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03-04-2013, 11:11 AM
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Ray Ferraro had a helluva year in the WHL
72 GP
108 G
84 A
192 PTs
And yet he was passed on for the World Juniors. Poor Ray...

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03-04-2013, 12:44 PM
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I like Gretzky's little league numbers. Like 400 goals and 200 assists in a season haha.
At age ten Gretzky had a 378 goal, 120 assist season.

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03-04-2013, 12:55 PM
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Mario was unreal in junior. I remember watching highlights of Laval games, on an obscure French channel, and as a kid I quickly learned how to say every superlative in the French language.

And he looked like a man among boys both in Laval and in Pittsburgh.

Bossy deserves some mention, four years at Laval, 309 goals (70, 84, 79, 75) in just 259 games. He continued that consistency in all his NHL games.

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03-04-2013, 01:03 PM
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Based on that junior career, how the in the blue hell did Richards not go until the 3rd round of the draft?!?!?!?!??!!?!?
Richards' 99-00 season was two seasons after he was drafted. In his draft year - which was also his first season in the QMJHL - he had 115 points in 68 games.

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03-04-2013, 01:29 PM
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Best Career for the CHL:
595 Patrice Lefebvre, Shawinigan, QMJHL, 1984-85 thru 1987-88

http://www.chl.ca/page/most-points-career

And Best Season in the CHL:
282 Mario Lemieux, Laval, QMJHL, 1983-84 (70 games)

http://www.chl.ca/page/most-points-one-season-players

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03-04-2013, 02:31 PM
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Best Career for the CHL:
595 Patrice Lefebvre, Shawinigan, QMJHL, 1984-85 thru 1987-88

http://www.chl.ca/page/most-points-career
nice find. Of these 500pts + CHL players, most from the "Q", there are only a couple of standouts.

If I had to rank:

1) Mario
> > > (GAP)
2) Bossy
> > > (MANY GAPS)
3) Propp
4) Brown
5) S. Lebeau
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595 Patrice Lefebvre, Shawinigan, QMJHL, 1984-85 thru 1987-88
591 Brian Sakic, Swift Current- Tri-City, WHL, 1987-88 thru 1991-92
580 Stephan Lebeau, Shawinigan, QMJHL, 1984-85 thru. 1987-88
575 Patrick Emond, Trois-Rivieres-Hull-Chicoutimi, QMJHL, 81-82 thru 85-86
573 Glen Goodall, Seattle, WHL, 1984-85 thru 1989-90
568 Normand Dupont, Montreal, QMJHL
562 Mario Lemieux, Laval, QMJHL, 1981-82 thru 1983-84
558 Jacques Locas, St-Jerome-Quebec, QMJHL
545 Sylvain Locas, Chicoutimi-Sherbrooke, QMJHL
543 Guy Rouleau, Longueuil-Hull, QMJHL
532 Michael Bossy, Laval, QMJHL
529 Craig Endean, Seattle-Regina, WHL, 1983-84 thru 1987-88
522 Rob Brown, Kamloops, WHL, 1983-84 thru 1986-87
515 Normand Aubin, Sorel-Sherbrooke, QMJHL
511 Brian Propp, Brandon, WHL, 1976-77 thru 1978-79
500 Patrick Lebeau, Shawinigan-St-Jean-Victoriaville, QMJHL, 86-87 thru 89-90

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NOTE: Mario played only three seasons in the Q until he turned pro at 18, which is astounding.

Bossy turned pro at 20.

Patrice Lefebvre (5'6") played THREE NHL games for the Caps in 1998, scored zero points.

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03-04-2013, 02:47 PM
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What about players in Europe?

Some greats from Finland are Granlund (43gp 13+27=40), O. Jokinen (50gp 14+27=41) and Selänne (42gp 33+25=58 [he played 11 games prior to that so I don't know if you can count it as rookie season]).

How about them Swedes, Russians or Czech and Slovakians for that matter?
I suspect the numbers are not goint to be that impressive as the system in Europe is different and young players who are performing well above their age level get called up to the senior squads.

I may be wrong but as far as I know, the best U20 player's season in the history of the Czech/Czechoslovak men's top league was Robert Reichel's campaign in 1989/90 (44gp 43+28 = 71).

Žigmund Pálffy had tremendous play-offs as a 19 years old in 1992 (13 gp 18+8 = 26).

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03-04-2013, 03:04 PM
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Lol look at mario's teammates that year. Jacques Goyette with 170 points?

The team had 156 more goals than any other team in the QMJHL. Also went 0-3 in the memorial cup.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/l...014211984.html


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03-04-2013, 03:11 PM
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Not enough love for Guy LaFleur. It was mentioned once in this thread, but his 18/19 year, he averaged over two goals/game while racking up penalty minutes. He added 43 more points in 14 playoff games.

Total was 76 games, 152 goals, 100 assists, 252 points. He won the scoring title by 65 points... ahead of his two linemates, who were 2nd and 3rd.

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03-04-2013, 06:49 PM
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Not enough love for Guy LaFleur. It was mentioned once in this thread, but his 18/19 year, he averaged over two goals/game while racking up penalty minutes. He added 43 more points in 14 playoff games.

Total was 76 games, 152 goals, 100 assists, 252 points. He won the scoring title by 65 points... ahead of his two linemates, who were 2nd and 3rd.
True, however at the risk of making a competition out of it in 1984 Lemieux beat second place (his linemate Jacques Goyette) by 112 points. Granted Lemieux "only" had 92 PIM, but still, that margin of victory would have probably have been a top 20 finish. There was only one game during the season that Lemieux failed to earn a point, and he had a 61 game point streak.

Though Lafleur is the only player ever to have consecutive 100 goal seasons (103 in 56 games in 1969-70, 130 in 62 games in 1970-71). Impressive efforts by both players, but just based on Lemieux beating second place by enough points to still have a decent point total, I'd give it to him.

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03-04-2013, 06:56 PM
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some one with brains who mentioned Lafleur your right on.He was named the greatest rw in junior history in canadian junior history by MasterCard and their selectors.Not only could he score and pass he was a very good fighter and he hated to loose like no one.

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Robbie Brown with the Kamloops Blazers:

1985-86 69GP-58G-115A-173P (regular season, 2.51 PPG)

1985-86 16GP-18G- 28A- 46P (playoffs, 2.88 PPG)

1986-87 63GP-76G-136A-212P (regular season, 3.36 PPG)

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