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03-08-2013, 09:45 AM
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Evander Kane to Buffalo

If this Kane situation turns out to be more than it is, which I dont think it will, but just for conversations sake what does it take to get Kane on the Sabres. Exactly what just about every team in the league wants.

To BUF:

Evander Kane

To WPG:

Joel Armia
Jake McCabe or Brayden McNabb

What else does BUF add to get this deal done. Does WPG prefer a roster player like Ennis or our top prospect who is coming to NA after SM Liga ends?

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03-08-2013, 09:55 AM
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Buffalo's 1st round draft pick for the next 5 years including this year
Plus Myers, miller, pommenville

We will add
Pavelec
And our 7th round pick for the next 5 years


Or maybe not

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Some combination of Myers, Hodgson, Grigerenko, Armia, 2013 1st, Girgensons nothing less than that gets you Kane.

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Thread title has been updated for clarification.

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This again? Why? It's not happening. Winnipeg isn't trading him, and Buffalo would be absolutely foolish to give up the assets it would take. We're obviously in need of a rebuild; we need to keep our picks and young players.

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03-08-2013, 10:24 AM
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I'd think if you could get Kane without giving up someone like Myers or Hodgson, you'd do it. He's better than what you'll likely get in the draft and already developed. I'd give up our first, Rielly and a roster player pretty easily just as value, and if i'm WPG, I still say no

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03-08-2013, 10:26 AM
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I'd think if you could get Kane without giving up someone like Myers or Hodgson, you'd do it. He's better than what you'll likely get in the draft and already developed. I'd give up our first, Rielly and a roster player pretty easily just as value, and if i'm WPG, I still say no
Better than the top 3 pick we're on pace to get + whatever other valuable assets Winnipeg would want included (because I'm sure the + would not be small)? No thanks. We'd be better off selling our dead weight at the deadline, adding as many picks as possible (either to move up or just get more prospects).

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This again? Why? It's not happening. Winnipeg isn't trading him, and Buffalo would be absolutely foolish to give up the assets it would take. We're obviously in need of a rebuild; we need to keep our picks and young players.
As long as we arent the fools paying ten thousand dollars for season tickets , who cares if they win. Tank for future glory.

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I'll take a shot at actually answering. The Op's deal? No way, no how, that is brutal for WPG.

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That might do it. Or at the very least, get the conversation started.

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03-08-2013, 10:34 AM
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Better than the top 3 pick we're on pace to get + whatever other valuable assets Winnipeg would want included (because I'm sure the + would not be small)? No thanks. We'd be better off selling our dead weight at the deadline, adding as many picks as possible (either to move up or just get more prospects).
I don't see you as being a bad team, just having a bad year, much like I don't see the Leafs as a team as good as their place thus far. Adding a known, young power forward who hasn't reached full potential for a draft pick and a couple prospects while keeping the core in place. That'd be extremely hard for me to pass up unless Jones is the draft pick. Just my opinion. You will obviously know your team better

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If this Kane situation turns out to be more than it is, which I dont think it will, but just for conversations sake what does it take to get Kane on the Sabres.
There is no situation; he had a disagreement with his coach on the bench for 15 seconds. That is all there is to it. If there was a "situation" then the Jets wouldn't have made him available to be interviewed immediately following the game on the TSN Jets broadcast as teams tend to frown on interviewing unhappy players. It doesn't make for good pr. Yet there he was on TSN Jets talking about the game.

Heh.

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I don't see you as being a bad team, just having a bad year, much like I don't see the Leafs as a team as good as their place thus far. Adding a known, young power forward who hasn't reached full potential for a draft pick and a couple prospects while keeping the core in place. That'd be extremely hard for me to pass up unless Jones is the draft pick. Just my opinion. You will obviously know your team better
The trouble is it would take that pick (even if we make a late season run, it's still going to be top 10 at this point in the season) + someone like Hodgson or Grigorenko. Buffalo doesn't have the depth in their roster or in the pipeline to be able to make that kind of move and come out a better team as a result, IMO.

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I'll take a shot at actually answering. The Op's deal? No way, no how, that is brutal for WPG.

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That might do it. Or at the very least, get the conversation started.
No, no it wouldn't.

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I'd think if you could get Kane without giving up someone like Myers or Hodgson, you'd do it. He's better than what you'll likely get in the draft and already developed. I'd give up our first, Rielly and a roster player pretty easily just as value, and if i'm WPG, I still say no
You have to include our 2013 1st in that sentence, because there's a pretty good chance it's going to be top-4.

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You have to include our 2013 1st in that sentence, because there's a pretty good chance it's going to be top-4.
Absolutely you would. It's a given. The only other question is what else on top of that.

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Kane is not being traded. I'm not sure where every other fan base thinks they're doing is a favor by taking this bad character guy off our team...but he's not going anywhere. He just signed a great deal and ate up UFA years to stay right where he is.

He's a 21 year old, who has a big personality. I'm fine with that. He could have a flock of seagulls hair cut and it wouldn't bug me one bit.

The obsession that this board has with Evander Kane's hair is baffling to me. He's a black guy, an shaving **** into your hair is something that alot of black people do.

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No, no it wouldn't.

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In fairness to Buffalo Pominville>Little and Sekera >>Postma. Even their 2nd>our 2nd hehe.

Bottom line is Jets need a star to compliment Kane, not trade him away and look for two instead.

Jets don't have a single expendable asset to overpay to bring anyone in. So just like Buffalo, we wait and trade dead weight to contenders for picks and take our chances in the draft.

Only deal in theory that makes sense is a young #1 C expendable for someone coming back if Kane is leaving. Quality for quantity won't help is long term.

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Absolutely you would. It's a given. The only other question is what else on top of that.
Actually, I wouldn't give up this year's 1st rounder for Kane. Evander is a great player to be sure, but he's got his big contract and his attitude is a bit of a question mark. I'd rather take the 7 years of team control over one of the top-4, get three cheap years from the guy, and go from there.

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No, no it wouldn't.

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Pominville>>>>Little
Sekera>>Postma

I see what you are trying to do, but trying to pretend that Sekera and Pominville are scraps is a little frustrating. It's a bad comeback and they are not comparable. Pominville was the 6th highest scoring RW in the NHL last year.

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Kane is not being traded. I'm not sure where every other fan base thinks they're doing is a favor by taking this bad character guy off our team...but he's not going anywhere. He just signed a great deal and ate up UFA years to stay right where he is.

He's a 21 year old, who has a big personality. I'm fine with that. He could have a flock of seagulls hair cut and it wouldn't bug me one bit.

The obsession that this board has with Evander Kane's hair is baffling to me. He's a black guy, an shaving **** into your hair is something that alot of black people do.

but Sully! he yelled at his coach!!!!!!!! that TOTALLY destroys his value...

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LOL. Wishful thinking. Ain't gonna happen. End of story.

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No, no it wouldn't.

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You're joking right? Pominville is much, much much better than Little. And Sekera is our shutdown guy on one of the best contracts in the league.

Heck, why am I even responding - I would rather have Pominville over Kane in the first place. Pominville puts up better numbers and plays better defence, the only thing Kane has on him is grit.

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Absolutely you would. It's a given. The only other question is what else on top of that.
No. We wouldn't

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You're joking right? Pominville is much, much much better than Little. And Sekera is our shutdown guy on one of the best contracts in the league.

Heck, why am I even responding - I would rather have Pominville over Kane in the first place. Pominville puts up better numbers and plays better defence, the only thing Kane has on him is grit.
And Kane is younger and and not a UFA soon. You really are comparing numbers of a 30 y/o that has most likely peaked in performance vs 21 year old that has yet to hit his peak.

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no way
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not enough to the jets

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