#1. There might be a method to Saskatchewan's madness in opening up the first night and against perennial power UNB!
As lower seed of the opening game the Huskies will have last change.
Had Saskatchewan done the traditional Friday/Saturday/Sunday thing-three games in three nights and allowed UNB to play UQTR on ...it would have meant the V-Reds would have had last change...assuming the V-Reds would've beat UQTR.
Saskatchewan has more fire power, but are less physical than than some of their teams of the past. Saskatchewan also posseses a deeper line-up and are more capable of playing a four line game, and that is more useful in a game NOT on TV.
The games that are televised have :90 breaks after the 14/10/6 minute marks. These TV games at the CIS level allow a coach to play basically three lines and hide a D as well.
The Huskies also have better PP forwards than in the past. Derek Hulak and Kyle Bortis were legitimate 80+ point scorers in the WHL.
My experience (and I went to 10 of 11 Nationals from '98 to 2008 and sat on the orgnanizing committee in '04 and '05) is that there are more penalty calls early in the tournament as the teams try to figure out the standard that the officals have "elected" to impose...
Of course there is also the travel factor. The CIS tends to be a homeshow!
No team that flew to the University Cup from 1999-2007 won the Championship.
UNB has to be favored in their pool based on the strength of the AUS over the last several years, but the Huskies CAN pull off an upset.
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In terms of last change, I didn't think it mattered what day the games took place...I thought the highest seeded team in each pool always had last change against the middle seeded team and first change against the lowest seeded team, and the middle seeded team had last change against the lowest seeded team. So in UNBs case they would have last change against UQTR and first change against Sask. and then UQTR would have last change against Sask. This way the top seeded team is rewarded with having last change against the team who should be tougher and have first change against a team they should have an easier time with (according to the rankings).
has anyone heard anything in regards to the injuries to top 4 (D) Patrick O'Keefe and power forward Lucas Bloodoff.
I assume Bloodoff will be ready to go by friday. The Huskies seem to be tight lipped with O'Keefe's status, possibly until after the appeal decision is reached on UNB forward Cam Crithclow,on wednesday
In terms of last change, I didn't think it mattered what day the games took place...I thought the highest seeded team in each pool always had last change against the middle seeded team and first change against the lowest seeded team, and the middle seeded team had last change against the lowest seeded team. So in UNBs case they would have last change against UQTR and first change against Sask. and then UQTR would have last change against Sask. This way the top seeded team is rewarded with having last change against the team who should be tougher and have first change against a team they should have an easier time with (according to the rankings).
CIS regs state that the top seeds in each pool play the first day against the lowest seed in their pool, and that the lowest seed gets to be home team in the first game. The top seed gets last change in their second game (whether it is Friday or Saturday).
So as David has verified and as I suggested, Saskatchewan has last change against UNB. This may be a factor or may not.
I can tell you that in 2003 vs. St. FX and in 2008 vs. Moncton with both tournaments played in the Atlantic, last change/line matching was a huge factor.
Alberta travelled across the country. didn't get last change in their opening game of the tournament, and both "X" and Moncton deployed strong face-off men in a shutdown role and won OT games.
For those of you who attended the 2003 tournament the Bears lost 3-2 in double OT, and then domianted York and UNB. They were the best team at the Tournament. In 2008 Alberta lost 2-1 on OT to Moncton but whipped McGill and the Redmen knocked off Moncton allowing the Bears a rare second shot, which they made the most of beating UNB to win the University Cup.
Was there a break in during the Women's CIS Hockey Championship?
The question you posed would indicate that something may have happened, but you seem to be unsure if it did.
i heard from a couple people on the STFX team they jerseys were stolen out of the dressing room, and i was wondering if it was an isolated incident, or if anyone heard of other things getting stolen
- Semi-Final #1 March 16, 1:30 pm Central (3:30pm EST / 4:30 AST) on Sportsnet Ontario, West & Pacific
- Semi-Final #2 March 16, 8:00 pm Central (10:00pm EST / 11:00pm AST) on Sportsnet East, Ontario, West & Pacific
- Finals March 17, 5:30 pm Central (7:30pm EST / 8:30pm AST) on Sportsnet ONE
Dave or Nick, can you check the local time for the night games?
There seems to be some different times being published.
The CIS UCup Bulletin has a 7:00pm start for Thu/Fri/Sat and 6:30 on Sun. The Saskatoon Phonix has a 7:20 start on Thu, with 7:00pm on Fri/Sat and 5:30 on Sunday, the CIS Online Schedule has 7:20/7:00/8:00pm & 5:30, CIS.tv has 7:00x3 and 5:30 while the CIS Press release has 8:00 and 5:30 for Saturday and Sunday night and finally the Sportsnet online schedule has 10:00:pm EST (8:00pm local) on Saturday and 7:30pm EST (5:30pm local) . . . so, is Saturday night 7:00 or 8:00 local and is Sunday 5:30 or 6:30 local - I would hate for someone to miss the first period because of a typo/goof.
So as David has verified and as I suggested, Saskatchewan has last change against UNB. This may be a factor or may not.
I can tell you that in 2003 vs. St. FX and in 2008 vs. Moncton with both tournaments played in the Atlantic, last change/line matching was a huge factor.
Alberta travelled across the country. didn't get last change in their opening game of the tournament, and both "X" and Moncton deployed strong face-off men in a shutdown role and won OT games.
For those of you who attended the 2003 tournament the Bears lost 3-2 in double OT, and then domianted York and UNB. They were the best team at the Tournament. In 2008 Alberta lost 2-1 on OT to Moncton but whipped McGill and the Redmen knocked off Moncton allowing the Bears a rare second shot, which they made the most of beating UNB to win the University Cup.
While Alberta did thoroughly Pound UNB 8-1 in that bronze medal game in 2003, keep in mind your talking about a devastated UNB team that less than 24 hours earlier lost a 4-3 Semifinal to UQTR on Home Ice after outshooting the Patriots 57-24. UNB had no mindset to be in that bronze medal game, and the frustration showed, The Bears may have been good but they were not 8-1 better than UNB, if that was the gold medal game the ending result would have been much different.
CIS release lists games at 1 p.m. and 7:20 Central on Day 1 (add three hours for Atlantic)
1 p.m. and 7 p.m. Friday (4 and 10)
1:30 p.m. and 7 p.m. Saturday
5:30 p.m. Sunday (8:30 Atlantic)
CIS release lists games at 1 p.m. and 7:20 Central on Day 1 (add three hours for Atlantic)
7:20 Central is 10:20 AST (add three hours), but the Gleaner reported the game started at 9:20pm in Monday's story (as well as 7:30 for the gold instead of 8:30)? Maybe that was calculated before daylight savings
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1 p.m. and 7 p.m. Friday (4 and 10)
1:30 p.m. and 7 p.m. Saturday
5:30 p.m. Sunday (8:30 Atlantic)
This means Game-6 on Saturday night is tape delayed 1hr as Sportsnet has a broadcast time of 10pm EST (8pm local).
While Alberta did thoroughly Pound UNB 8-1 in that bronze medal game in 2003, keep in mind your talking about a devastated UNB team that less than 24 hours earlier lost a 4-3 Semifinal to UQTR on Home Ice after outshooting the Patriots 57-24. UNB had no mindset to be in that bronze medal game, and the frustration showed, The Bears may have been good but they were not 8-1 better than UNB, if that was the gold medal game the ending result would have been much different.
Water under the bridge and it doesn't really matter - it was bronze medal game and is evidence why it should never be played.
Don't sleep on the OUA teams! Waterloo has, statistically speaking, the highest scoring duo in the country. If they can employ the same strategy they did against Western/Lakehead/Windsor (score a couple early, the weather the storm), they could shock some folks.
And, it cannot be understated how good this UQTR team is - as good or better than the two teams in the all-OUA uni cup final last year.
It will definitely take a bit of an upset for one of the OUA teams to make the final, but we only have to look back 12 months for precedent.
7:20 Central is 10:20 AST (add three hours), but the Gleaner reported the game started at 9:20pm in Monday's story (as well as 7:30 for the gold instead of 8:30)? Maybe that was calculated before daylight savings
I forgot CST is in permanent daylight savings. Gonna be some late nights this week(end).
Dave or Nick, can you check the local time for the night games?
There seems to be some different times being published.
The CIS UCup Bulletin has a 7:00pm start for Thu/Fri/Sat and 6:30 on Sun. The Saskatoon Phonix has a 7:20 start on Thu, with 7:00pm on Fri/Sat and 5:30 on Sunday, the CIS Online Schedule has 7:20/7:00/8:00pm & 5:30, CIS.tv has 7:00x3 and 5:30 while the CIS Press release has 8:00 and 5:30 for Saturday and Sunday night and finally the Sportsnet online schedule has 10:00:pm EST (8:00pm local) on Saturday and 7:30pm EST (5:30pm local) . . . so, is Saturday night 7:00 or 8:00 local and is Sunday 5:30 or 6:30 local - I would hate for someone to miss the first period because of a typo/goof.
I have tickets for the Saturday night game. It is definitely 8 PM Saskatoon time, unless Sportsnet has made them change it. However, there was an ad in yesterday's Star-Phoenix that also showed it at 8 PM. I think the CIS screwed up on the time of that game. I wonder if the game has to go at 8 because of some weird rule in CBC's contract that gives them exclusive rights to broadcast hockey of any sort during that first window on HNIC? If so, that might explain why the game is at 8 instead of 7.
Screwup was mine -- and Google. I thought it was 3 hours, but the timechanger I ran on Google reported it as 2...I knew Saskatchewan didn't adjust for Daylight time and therefore took it at two hours. That's incorrect. Time differential is three hours.
Don't sleep on the OUA teams! Waterloo has, statistically speaking, the highest scoring duo in the country. If they can employ the same strategy they did against Western/Lakehead/Windsor (score a couple early, the weather the storm), they could shock some folks.
And, it cannot be understated how good this UQTR team is - as good or better than the two teams in the all-OUA uni cup final last year.
It will definitely take a bit of an upset for one of the OUA teams to make the final, but we only have to look back 12 months for precedent.
You are absolutely right, and trust me despite slapping my own team UNB as the favourite thats simply because they are my local and favourite team. Very well aware of all teams in the tournament and what happen last season with McGill and Western and the year before with McGill, the top half of the OUA has been back on par with the Canada West and AUS the past couple of years, the only weak point for OUA teams coming into this tournament every year is the competition the other half of their league provides the top teams in their League, they get some nights off for an easy win for say.
You are absolutely right, and trust me despite slapping my own team UNB as the favourite thats simply because they are my local and favourite team. Very well aware of all teams in the tournament and what happen last season with McGill and Western and the year before with McGill, the top half of the OUA has been back on par with the Canada West and AUS the past couple of years, the only weak point for OUA teams coming into this tournament every year is the competition the other half of their league provides the top teams in their League, they get some nights off for an easy win for say.
That's certainly been the case in years past, and a little bit in the OUA East now (sorry, RMC and Concordia), but the OUA West is very parity-rich.
Nights off don't really exist anymore in the West - UOIT (8th seed) had wins over Windsor (x2), Waterloo, and Guelph this year, and Brock (9th, missed playoffs) beat Geluph (x2), Windsor, Waterloo (x2) and Western. The OUAW has almost reached anyone-can-win-the-division status - evident by Waterloo's appearance this year.
Having said that, UNB is definitely the favourite. But it should be a great tourney - gone are the days of teams that are just happy to be there, and that's great for the CIS product as a whole.
Don't sleep on the OUA teams! Waterloo has, statistically speaking, the highest scoring duo in the country. If they can employ the same strategy they did against Western/Lakehead/Windsor (score a couple early, the weather the storm), they could shock some folks.
And, it cannot be understated how good this UQTR team is - as good or better than the two teams in the all-OUA uni cup final last year.
It will definitely take a bit of an upset for one of the OUA teams to make the final, but we only have to look back 12 months for precedent.
You can 'raw raw' Waterloo (overall record 19-19, #26 GAA and #13 GPG) all you want, but they will be in tough with UoA (31-6, #1 GAA and #2 GPG) and SMU (26-15, #6 GAA and #4 GPG).
In Pool B - UNB is definitely the favorite in this pool (overall record 32-8, #2 GAA and #3 GPG) with UQTR in 2nd (31-10, #7 GAA and #5 GPG) and USask in 3rd (24-14, #14 GAA and #11 GPG ). I wouldn't be surprised to see USask win game 2 on Friday on the bounce back - same as they did last year.
OT Predictions
I think either game on Saturday can go into OT, most likely the UoA/SMU game.
The UNB/USask game could go into OT (much like USask vs UoA game 2 in CW finals with USask having last change, but I think they would need everything to go their way - UoA outshot them 43-29 and Holfeld must have had a great game). A hot goalie can win you a title (Mullins for Guelph in '97 - Ouzas for UNB in '07)
You can 'raw raw' Waterloo (overall record 19-19, #26 GAA and #13 GPG) all you want, but they will be in tough with UoA (31-6, #1 GAA and #2 GPG) and SMU (26-15, #6 GAA and #4 GPG).
In Pool B - UNB is definitely the favorite in this pool (overall record 32-8, #2 GAA and #3 GPG) with UQTR in 2nd (31-10, #7 GAA and #5 GPG) and USask in 3rd (24-14, #14 GAA and #11 GPG ). I wouldn't be surprised to see USask win game 2 on Friday on the bounce back - same as they did last year.
OT Predictions
I think either game on Saturday can go into OT, most likely the UoA/SMU game.
The UNB/USask game could go into OT (much like USask vs UoA game 2 in CW finals with USask having last change, but I think they would need everything to go their way - UoA outshot them 43-29 and Holfeld must have had a great game). A hot goalie can win you a title (Mullins for Guelph in '97 - Ouzas for UNB in '07)
Hey, I claimed Ontario Bias off the top. When did I say that Waterloo *wouldn't* be in tough? And here I thought an all-OUA final last year would remind some folks that there's actually a CIS conference in the middle of the country. How silly of me!
It warrants mentioning that Waterloo's 28 reg season games, 20 were decided by one goal (or two goals, with ENG). And at one point, Waterloo lost 8 straight one-goal games, and loat 11 of 13 decided by one goal. So, with a little more luck during that stretch, Waterloo has a 16-or-17-win regular season, and we're talking about a 3rd or 4th-seed in the nationals, not a 6th.
None of this, of course, even touches on UQTR, which is legitimately a top-4 team in the CIS. They're loaded with ex-QMJHL talent, they're well-coached, and their goaltending is absolutely on fire right now. UNB is certainly the fave in the pool, but 0-2 isn't out of the equation (its also not likely, but I hope you get my point).
Of course UNB and Alberta are favourites. They're the top 2 seeds! My whole point was that no team should be slept on. I think that's the case if you have 19 wins or 29 wins or 31 wins.
