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03-11-2013, 09:36 AM
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I would love to get Dubinsky.. a real Therrien player.
Dubinsky contract's steep (4.15M per year) pass.

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03-11-2013, 09:37 AM
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Dubinsky contract's steep (4.15M per year) pass.
You gotta do what you gotta do...

How many yrs does he have left on it?

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03-11-2013, 09:39 AM
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If the habs can land the type of D mentioned above, and it takes a prospect (and maybe a pick) to move, will it happen? If so, then who?

I know the whole MB don't mortgage our future thing, and I agree, but with our deep pool, can we spare a little piece of the future? COL gave us a great prospect in Bournival, for something they needed at the time. Keep in mind Bournival, Like O'Byrne was a third rounder, but a wild card at the time, very strong, great potential. Bozon? Vail?

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03-11-2013, 09:48 AM
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Boston won the cup with Kaberle, Kelley, and Peverley as rentals, and Horton added at the start of the season.

LA had Penner and Richards added at the start of the season, and Jeff Carter at the deadline.

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03-11-2013, 09:54 AM
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Would reeeally rather not. MB is building for the future and someone like Perry, Vanek, (I wouldn't think Pominville would be a franchise-changing addition even though he's good), would make acquiring the top4D pretty hard. MB seems like he knows how to pull off solid trades, so benefit of the doubt, but I'd rather have Tinordi and Beaulieu (and Ellis) on our blueline for years to come. It's a great year, no doubt and I'm all about winning, but I'd rather not start trading blue chips even if they're for proven NHL vets. Perry - I am totally on board with!
I am also a big fan and a big beliver of Bergevin and Timmins, but one day or another, Bergevin will have to make his move to be a real Stanley Cup contender.

If the Habs are top 5 in the league, healthy with a lot of picks and prospects for acquiring the missing pieces and do nothing, when will be the right time ? When another opportunity like that will happen ? No one knows the future. A ending career injury could happen to a key player. If the Habs are top 5 and healthy they shouldn't miss this opportunity to upgrade the team.

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03-11-2013, 09:56 AM
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Tinordi, Beaulieu, Ellis, Pateryn, Dietz, Nygren
Why do people always forget about Dalton Thrower ?

He has the highest upside of anyone not named Beaulieu or Tinordi imho

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03-11-2013, 09:57 AM
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Why do people always forget about Dalton Thrower ?

He has the highest upside of anyone not named Beaulieu or Tinordi imho
I like Thrower, but he's in the CHL next year, and in the AHL for one or two years after that.

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03-11-2013, 10:05 AM
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Dubinsky contract's steep (4.15M per year) pass.
In the right situation he is well worth it.

Having cap room is nice but doesn't win you hockey games.

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03-11-2013, 10:07 AM
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Dubinsky would be a great addition to this team and he is signed going forward so it's something Bergevin wants, all depends what the Jackets want in return, they would need to take on a little salary in return

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Boston won the cup with Kaberle, Kelley, and Peverley as rentals, and Horton added at the start of the season.

LA had Penner and Richards added at the start of the season, and Jeff Carter at the deadline.
Peverley wasn't a rental I don't think. Horton either.

Carter and Richards both had long term contracts.

A rental is a guy who will be UFA at year end.

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03-11-2013, 10:09 AM
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Peverley wasn't a rental I don't think. Horton either.

Carter and Richards both had long term contracts.

A rental is a guy who will be UFA at year end.
and neither was Kelly if i'm not mistaking. He had a year left before Boston signed him this year

Their only rental was Kaberle and that's cause they needed big time help on the blue line especially for their pp and he was not really much help. Lucky for Boston the trade will not hurt them going forward

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03-11-2013, 10:14 AM
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and neither was Kelly if i'm not mistaking. He had a year left before Boston signed him this year

Their only rental was Kaberle and that's cause they needed big time help on the blue line especially for their pp and he was not really much help. Lucky for Boston the trade will not hurt them going forward
Correct Kelly's contract expired July 1st 2012.

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03-11-2013, 10:19 AM
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Jared Boll & Douglas Murray could be two depth guys the Habs could acquire that may not cost them more than some mid-round picks and/or obscur prospects

These would be the type of additions which wouldn't mess with the chemistry of the team and would add a bit more character/grit to the lineup.

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03-11-2013, 10:31 AM
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Dubinsky's caphit is 4,2 and ends in 2014-2015. He would be a great addition to this team but Columbus has no reasons to trade him since they're playing well. I also don't think Bergevin will be willing to give young players and draft picks in order to get him.

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03-11-2013, 10:34 AM
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Dubinsky's caphit is 4,2 and ends in 2014-2015. He would be a great addition to this team but Columbus has no reasons to trade him since they're playing well. I also don't think Bergevin will be willing to give young players and draft picks in order to get him.
Maybe it's a salary dump?

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03-11-2013, 10:38 AM
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Jarred Boll would be a very, very good acquisition. We need a guy who can help Prust out there, not only with the fighting aspect of the game, but also the physical and crashing aspect of the game.

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03-11-2013, 11:13 AM
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i really expect bergevin to do something sooner rather than later....ottawa weds, Boston and TO in a couple of weeks. Even when Prust comes back, can't expect him to start fighting with a recently separated shoulder

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i really expect bergevin to do something sooner rather than later....ottawa weds, Boston and TO in a couple of weeks. Even when Prust comes back, can't expect him to start fighting with a recently separated shoulder
Not to mention that the more he waits, the more it will cost...wouldn't be surprised to see some movement this week.

Lots of chatter around the team lately

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03-11-2013, 11:16 AM
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Renaud Lavoie was on 104.7 just a few minutes ago, had some interesting tidbits on trades coming up to the deadline.

1-he said the Habs are shopping for a legit heavyweight enforcer...lends credence to the Boll/CBJ rumors

2-he said it's unlikely they make a blockbuster trade

3-he said he's hearing echos that they want to add a big stay at home d-man with a mean streak before the deadline


I like that approach...don't mess with the youth or chemistry and trade maybe a 4th or 5th plus a 2nd or B prospect and add an enforcer and good stay at home d-man.

Edit: who would be on the list for these roles?

Who are the stay at home d-men either coming up as UFA or possibly on the block without bad contracts? Who are the legit NHL heavyweights that could be available?
That's music to my hear!

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03-11-2013, 11:21 AM
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Maybe it's a salary dump?
My guess is that it would be a bit premature to dump Dubinsky's salary because the Nash trade was not too long ago. They could also squeak in the playoffs this season.

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03-11-2013, 11:21 AM
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Renaud Lavoie was on 104.7 just a few minutes ago, had some interesting tidbits on trades coming up to the deadline.

1-he said the Habs are shopping for a legit heavyweight enforcer...lends credence to the Boll/CBJ rumors

2-he said it's unlikely they make a blockbuster trade

3-he said he's hearing echos that they want to add a big stay at home d-man with a mean streak before the deadline

I like that approach...don't mess with the youth or chemistry and trade maybe a 4th or 5th plus a 2nd or B prospect and add an enforcer and good stay at home d-man.

Edit: who would be on the list for these roles?

Who are the stay at home d-men either coming up as UFA or possibly on the block without bad contracts? Who are the legit NHL heavyweights that could be available?
That's what I was hoping for, and it looks they are going this way. Great.

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03-11-2013, 11:21 AM
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I don't believe in heavyweight enforcer... I think we're one Iginla or/and one D away from being cup contenders, and not one Jared Boll away from it

am I the only one who's not really into heavyweight enforcers?

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Not bad I guess...

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I don't believe in heavyweight enforcer... I think we're one Iginla or/and one D away from being cup contenders, and not one Jared Boll away from it

am I the only one who's not really into heavyweight enforcers?
I'm only a firm believer in heavyweights that can contribute in other ways. Boll doesn't seem like a defensive liabilty and can play about 10 minutes per game. I don't think he's the best fighter though.

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I'm only a firm believer in heavyweights that can contribute in other ways. Boll doesn't seem like a defensive liabilty and can play about 10 minutes per game. I don't think he's the best fighter though.
I can understand that and almost agree with you, but at the same time, those good players that can play a good physical game too are pretty rare and people don't seem to realise that we ALREADY have Prust, which is one of those rare player

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