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05-04-2013, 04:18 PM
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Suggestion to increase scoring, hear me out

Treat a penalty like an icing call. The play starts in the offending zone, AND the players can't change. This will give a great advantage to the offense because the players will, in some cases, be very tired at the time they took the penalty. Thoughts?

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I don't like it.

First off, I'm not convinced the game needs more scoring regardless.

Second, I don't like increasing the scoring by just hampering teams' abilities to kill penalties.

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05-04-2013, 04:31 PM
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Good idea in my opinion, but this forum is never receptive to any new ideas so I imagine you'll want to put your flame-suit on.

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No, already too much emphasis on power plays.

Just decrease goalie equipment size and you'll see a dramatic difference. Watching the Canucks game, Luongo looked like he was in a sumo suit.

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That idea's not too bad. I was expecting another "decline PPs for penalty shots" or "make the nets bigger" post.

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05-04-2013, 04:45 PM
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Teams that have sucky PK = hate this rule.
Teams that have a good PP = love this rule.

IMO, I believe teams should get punished for taking penalties.

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Good idea in my opinion, but this forum is never receptive to any new ideas so I imagine you'll want to put your flame-suit on.
It's your opinion that it's a good idea, but when people have a negative opinion of it, it's not being receptive?

Personally, I don't like the idea. There are other ways, and likely better ways that would increase scoring.

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Teams that have sucky PK = hate this rule.
Teams that have a good PP = love this rule.

IMO, I believe teams should get punished for taking penalties.
Since when aren't they?

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It's your opinion that it's a good idea, but when people have a negative opinion of it, it's not being receptive?

Personally, I don't like the idea. There are other ways, and likely better ways that would increase scoring.
Name one better way to increase scoring then..

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Name one better way to increase scoring then..
Decrease the size of goalie equipment..

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oh look, another goalie equipment reduction thread

change the channel Marge



inb4 pictures of 2003 Giguere "hurr durr michelin man"

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Good idea on paper, bad idea if you've actually watched a lot of hockey.

The refs are human you know...they know what the consequences are if they make a call and they even subconsciously will change how they call a game if a team scores on a power play. Everyone who plays and coaches knows this. That's why if you're up two men, you can't do ANYTHING remotely fishy because everyone knows the ref is just itching to even things up.

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Name one better way to increase scoring then..
Make trapping illegal? I don't think the issue is scoring. I think the issue is scoring chances. More chances makes for a more exciting game. They could create a rule where if a team had all their players in the neutral zone/defensive end when the puck was in the opposing team's end for more than a set amount of time, a penalty is called. Similar to the basketball 3 second rule

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No, already too much emphasis on power plays.

Just decrease goalie equipment size and you'll see a dramatic difference. Watching the Canucks game, Luongo looked like he was in a sumo suit.
wrong

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Don't need to artificially raise scoring. 4-5 goals a game is plenty.

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Decrease the size of goalie equipment..
Or increase the size of the net.

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Make trapping illegal? I don't think the issue is scoring. I think the issue is scoring chances. More chances makes for a more exciting game. They could create a rule where if a team had all their players in the neutral zone/defensive end when the puck was in the opposing team's end for more than a set amount of time, a penalty is called. Similar to the basketball 3 second rule
This. I DO like the OPs idea, though. It's not a major tweak, but gives an additional advantage.

A 'three seconds in the key' in hockey would be super-hard to implement. Hockey refs have a way harder job than flopball refs. I don't think you're wrong, I just think it would be clunky.

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In my opinion giving more power to the referees' ability to influence the outcome of a game is bad. There are way too many phantom calls, and adding additional punitive restrictions to penalties compounds mistakes made by poor officiating. I think any rule changes that occur to increase scoring have to be ones that don't involve on-ice discretion by the officials.

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The last thing the NHL or hockey as a sport need is if the game becomes even more based on special teams. Don not like.

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does scoring NEED to be increased?

will having an extra goal a game make hockey a "better" sport? what are the ratings for the NHL? aren't they at an all-time high? i just don't get why people constantly are trying to figure out how to increase scoring as if scoring alone determines the quality of the sport.

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Stop with the increasing scoring already, smh. Go watch basketball or lets make top shelf goals count for 7 points, deflections for 3 points and penalty shots 1 pt each.

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just make the nets bigger

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does scoring NEED to be increased?

will having an extra goal a game make hockey a "better" sport? what are the ratings for the NHL? aren't they at an all-time high? i just don't get why people constantly are trying to figure out how to increase scoring as if scoring alone determines the quality of the sport.
The quality is bad in most games. The score is just a reflection of the type of play and systems most teams use. 5 man collapse with 1-2-2 most of the game. There are no breakaways anymore. Teams just play it safe and hope for bounces.

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It doesn't really do anything to the overall flow of the game all it means is that PPs will be slightly more efficient.

Sure scoring would go slightly up, but the game would still look identical except for the first 15-30s of random PPs

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I've always supported this idea, no idea why it's being received so poorly. The only issue is sometimes a player has been out there for 3 or 4 minutes and takes a penalty because they're so exhausted...if you've already used your time out, then this player has to stay out there and it could lead to more injuries.

Overall, I like the rule. Maybe you would have to add a 2nd timeout though.

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