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03-23-2013, 07:25 PM
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Little love for Deryk Engelland. Dude can throw.

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03-23-2013, 08:48 PM
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Little love for Deryk Engelland. Dude can throw.
Absolutely! Just ask Colton Orr.

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03-23-2013, 10:33 PM
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Easily Orr in the east.Won all scraps this year,except for one,maybe two draws.He's only 6,3",220.Not all that big and will go with anyone.Usually skates away smiling too.

Don't know about the west,I don't get to watch many games.

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03-23-2013, 10:36 PM
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Easily Orr in the east.Won all scraps this year,except for one,maybe two draws.He's only 6,3",220.Not all that big and will go with anyone.Usually skates away smiling too.

Don't know about the west,I don't get to watch many games.
This. Orr has defeated all the top heavyweights over the past few years ie Boogaard, Scott, Lucic, Mcgrattan, etc.

He may be undefeated this season while leading the Leafs in fighting majors. This guy's got to be the best enforcer, even those who have beaten him (Engelland for ex), Orr has avenged his loss by beating them.

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Orr falls under one of the most exciting fighters.. Not sure if he's the best.

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03-24-2013, 01:31 AM
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Orr is the best fighter in the game right now. He is in great shape this season and has that jack hammer of a right hand.

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03-24-2013, 02:04 AM
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Absolutely! Just ask Colton Orr.


Orr got him pretty good in their most recent bout, Engelland looked like he had just finished a 12 round boxing match later in the game.


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03-24-2013, 08:39 AM
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Orr falls under one of the most exciting fighters.. Not sure if he's the best.
Lemme guess.

Kassian is the best in the East?

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03-24-2013, 09:39 AM
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Lemme guess.

Kassian is the best in the East?
Never lost a fight in the NHL..So he could be who knows.

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03-24-2013, 10:56 AM
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Orr got him pretty good in their most recent bout, Engelland looked like he had just finished a 12 round boxing match later in the game.




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Funny that Orr is considered to be the best when the only time he and Bordeleau fought Bordy came on top.

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Lemme guess.

Kassian is the best in the East?
Lol'd. Orr will take care of him like he did Carkner, then the Sens fans will still say hes not the best.

Since the lockout, Orr has the 2nd most fights in the league. This season, he has the 2nd most fighting majors (10) and is undefeated. JS.

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03-24-2013, 11:29 AM
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Lol no need to get defensive... Bringing up 2 fights from 3 years ago to offset a fight 2 months ago doesn't do much for you.
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Funny that Orr is considered to be the best when the only time he and Bordeleau fought Bordy came on top.
How long ago was that? The question is who is the best now... Orr destroying fedoruk isn't coming up because it doesn't matter now. What matters is what is happening right now

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03-24-2013, 11:47 AM
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How long ago was that? The question is who is the best now... Orr destroying fedoruk isn't coming up because it doesn't matter now. What matters is what is happening right now
Orr is probably in contention as top dog right now but no one can say for sure while Mcgratton is in the league. If Orr didnt have that loss to Neil I would give it to him for sure I think. Mcgratton isnt active this year though so you cant give it to him alone. And Bordeleau is unproven at the NHL level against the best guys but could be the best

Theres a clear top 3 but what order they go in who knows

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03-24-2013, 11:51 AM
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Orr is probably in contention as top dog right now but no one can say for sure while Mcgratton is in the league. If Orr didnt have that loss to Neil I would give it to him for sure I think. Mcgratton isnt active this year though so you cant give it to him alone. And Bordeleau is unproven at the NHL level against the best guys but could be the best

Theres a clear top 3 but what order they go in who knows
Orr's "loss" to Neil was Neil hanging on the entire fight. I'd hardly call that a deciding factor. The problem with this year is the fact they there is no interconference play this year so we miss out on a lot of match ups

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Lol no need to get defensive... Bringing up 2 fights from 3 years ago to offset a fight 2 months ago doesn't do much for you.


How long ago was that? The question is who is the best now... Orr destroying fedoruk isn't coming up because it doesn't matter now. What matters is what is happening right now
Orr does have a strong case. but he has lost to Neil and narrowly to Westgarth this season. Where as Neil has not lost yet but has not fought the big names Orr has..............McLaren has beat westgarth but has lost to scott and narrowly to Thorburn.

Toss up for me between Orr and McLaren.

What the heck is up with Lucic? Guy is lost out on the ice this season. I have only watched over a handful of bruin games (vs Jet vs Leafs) and a few others but he is not hitting, not fighting, not scoring and a turnover machine this season. Is he playing through an injury or something?

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Easily Orr in the east.Won all scraps this year,except for one,maybe two draws.He's only 6,3",220.Not all that big and will go with anyone.Usually skates away smiling too.

Don't know about the west,I don't get to watch many games.
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This. Orr has defeated all the top heavyweights over the past few years ie Boogaard, Scott, Lucic, Mcgrattan, etc.

He may be undefeated this season while leading the Leafs in fighting majors. This guy's got to be the best enforcer, even those who have beaten him (Engelland for ex), Orr has avenged his loss by beating them.
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Lol'd. Orr will take care of him like he did Carkner, then the Sens fans will still say hes not the best.

Since the lockout, Orr has the 2nd most fights in the league. This season, he has the 2nd most fighting majors (10) and is undefeated. JS.
Leafs fans need to drop the hyperbole if they want to be taken seriously. Orr isn't undefeated this season, not even close. He has two clear losses, to Westgarth and Neil. I can understand why people are trying to forget that, given the two guys he lost to, but you can't ignore facts. Can try to make as many excuses as you'd like, but they were clear losses.

Making excuses just hurts your credibility, and really shouldn't be necessary. When you fight as much as Orr, it happens, this should be common sense.

That said, he's certainly up there, along with McGrattan, Scott etc. Certainly not the undisputed champ as some will like to believe, there is none.

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Orr's "loss" to Neil was Neil hanging on the entire fight. I'd hardly call that a deciding factor. The problem with this year is the fact they there is no interconference play this year so we miss out on a lot of match ups
Rewatch the fight. Neil was active the whole time swinging at and occasionally connecting to Orr. Orr hung on the whole time and did nothing.

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03-24-2013, 12:09 PM
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Lemme guess.

Kassian is the best in the East?
Nah, David Dzuirzinsky

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Rewatch the fight. Neil was active the whole time swinging at and occasionally connecting to Orr. Orr hung on the whole time and did nothing.
No Neil was holding on to Orr for the whole fight and Orr couldnt get an arm loose. Yes Neil "won" but it was also one of the worst fights of the year (between fighters)

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03-24-2013, 12:15 PM
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No Neil was holding on to Orr for the whole fight and Orr couldnt get an arm loose. Yes Neil "won" but it was also one of the worst fights of the year (between fighters)
You lose all credibility with posts like this.

Do people think you can't be the champ unless you're undefeated or does it bug Leafs fans that much that their boy got beat by Neil? I've never seen anything like this, such a refusal to admit something. If Neil was holding on to Orr for the whole fight, he wouldn't have got the win.

If beating Orr is as simple as holding on to his one arm, Neil certainly won't be the last to beat him.

A loss is a loss, and that was a clear one. Only slightly less funny than say, a Sens fan trying to argue a win for Dizzy D. Orr is as undefeated as Dziurzinsky.

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Rewatch the fight. Neil was active the whole time swinging at and occasionally connecting to Orr. Orr hung on the whole time and did nothing.
Lol I've seen the fight... Neil was the one hanging on including grabbing orrs ear strap when he lost grip from his jersey. Orr doesn't fight defensively at all... To suggest that he's going to hold onto Neil of all people is ridiculous

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You lose all credibility with posts like this.

Do people think you can't be the champ unless you're undefeated or does it bug Leafs fans that much that their boy got beat by Neil? I've never seen anything like this, such a refusal to admit something. If Neil was holding on to Orr for the whole fight, he wouldn't have got the win.

If beating Orr is as simple as holding on to his one arm, Neil certainly won't be the last to beat him.

A loss is a loss, and that was a clear one. Only slightly less funny than say, a Sens fan trying to argue a win for Dizzy D. Orr is as undefeated as Dziurzinsky.
There is a very large difference between orrs loss to engelland 2 years ago and his loss to Neil. Neil held on in desperation, engelland fought Orr and beat him. Huge difference.

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There is a very large difference between orrs loss to engelland 2 years ago and his loss to Neil. Neil held on in desperation, engelland fought Orr and beat him. Huge difference.
Neil held on in desperation? Was this before Orr threw those 10 rights that knocked Neil out? Honestly, your description of the fight proves either that you did not see the fight, or that you're a massive homer. The guy you quoted isn't even a Sens fan or Leafs fan.

You don't win fights by holding on in desperation, as Orr found out against neil.

A loss is a loss, and Orr certainly lost to Neil. Only people arguing that are the most biased of Leafs fans. The Westgarth fight was closer than the Neil one.

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Neil held on in desperation? Was this before Orr threw those 10 rights that knocked Neil out? Honestly, your description of the fight proves either that you did not see the fight, or that you're a massive homer. The guy you quoted isn't even a Sens fan or Leafs fan.

You don't win fights by holding on in desperation, as Orr found out against neil.

A loss is a loss, and Orr certainly lost to Neil. Only people arguing that are the most biased of Leafs fans. The Westgarth fight was closer than the Neil one.
I have to agree with you. lol.

Neil won that fight by throwing punches while Orr held on and did nothing.

I have no issue with saying either Orr or McLaren are the top Heavyweight at the moment but to be so homerish in regards to Neil clearly out throwing and beating Orr is mind boggeling.

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Leafs fans need to drop the hyperbole if they want to be taken seriously. Orr isn't undefeated this season, not even close. He has two clear losses, to Westgarth and Neil. I can understand why people are trying to forget that, given the two guys he lost to, but you can't ignore facts. Can try to make as many excuses as you'd like, but they were clear losses.

Making excuses just hurts your credibility, and really shouldn't be necessary. When you fight as much as Orr, it happens, this should be common sense.

That said, he's certainly up there, along with McGrattan, Scott etc. Certainly not the undisputed champ as some will like to believe, there is none.
Are you seriously trying to make a case that Orr is not the top dog because of his loss to Neil and Westgarth? Neil hung on for dear life; do you want to see what happens when Neil actually lets Orr fight?



And is this the loss you are talking about against Westgarth?



Wow, and you're calling me out for a hyberbole? It was a draw.

All Neil did in his "win" was bear hug Orr and throw a couple minor shots in tight. Nobody is saying hes the undisputed champ, show me that post. So Orr has 1 loss this season, and a draw, what a hyperbole!

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