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Best Fighter/Enforcer in the league??

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03-07-2013, 04:33 PM
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In my fact, he wouldn't.
Decided to take a cursory glance at their respective fight cards and while they've never fought each other, McQuaid is 8-0-2 against guys that have fought Rinaldo.

Rinaldo meanwhile is 3-4-3 against guys who've fought McQuaid.

Something tells me you need to check your facts, lmfao.

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03-07-2013, 04:36 PM
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I understand Rinaldo is a little guy that likes to throw, and has an impressive win or 2 this season. But I had to lookup his past success.
According to hockeyfights.com voting, he was 3-9-3 last season.

Those wins include Gregory Campbell, Nate Horton, and all 165lbs of Andrew Shaw (who is Andy Shaw?) Not exactly a who's who of fighters.

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03-07-2013, 05:00 PM
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How many of those fights against heavies came recently, though? Lucic fought a lot of those guys when he was younger and more inexperienced, and as of late hasn't really lost many, regardless of who they are. (edit: didn't read your whole post before repyling, noted).

I have him at 7-4-6 vs. heavies in his career btw after a cursory glance at this card: http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/Fig...x?Player=14027
Thanks great, more compact lists. His junior record is amazing 30-1-14 with only getting put on his ass by mclaren, but also beating him (something he admits)

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03-07-2013, 05:19 PM
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Fraser mclaren / thread

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03-07-2013, 05:28 PM
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Far as I can tell, "all the people who think Rinaldo is a terminator clone" is a set of one Flyers fan in one thread.

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Yeah, he'd beat McQuaid alright.

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03-07-2013, 05:37 PM
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very impressive. reminds me a lot of Dave Brown and Chief Berube.

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Bordeleau I've not even heard of
remember the name. dude is a monster and tore up the AHL.

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Far as I can tell, "all the people who think Rinaldo is a terminator clone" is a set of one Flyers fan in one thread.
sadly, he's not the only one

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03-07-2013, 06:25 PM
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Best Goon: McGratton

Best player that can fight: Lucic

Pound for Pound: Neil or Engelland


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03-07-2013, 06:52 PM
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Basically what we have gathered here in this thread is that Rinaldo is the best fighter in the NHL, everyone is scared of him, he weighs only 30 pounds more than my Newfoundland dog and that he will fight anyone.

So Rinaldo is the best in the league...
If your Newfie only weighs 140 he isnt even that big for his breed.
MW newfie, LHW at best.

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03-07-2013, 06:55 PM
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He is certainly climbing the list of top heavies quickly.

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03-07-2013, 06:58 PM
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Thanks great, more compact lists. His junior record is amazing 30-1-14 with only getting put on his ass by mclaren, but also beating him (something he admits)
Maybe we get to see Looch and McLaren go tonight!

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Orr, Mclaren, Parros, Lucic, Neil, Mcgratton, Scott, Engelland, Bordeleau, Tom Sestito.

That is my top 10

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03-07-2013, 07:00 PM
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Best Goon: McGratton

Best player that can fight: Lucic

Pound for Pound: Neil or Engelland
i realize mcgratton is tough but last time i saw him fight orr, orr beat him badly and left him with a bloody nose, that was 2-3 years ago i know things change but i think orr and mcgratton are the top dogs right now in the goon category i would need to see them fight a few more times to distinguish the winner. also i know shaun throton got absolutely killed by john scott but he is still tough as nails and i wouldn't throw him out of the convo. Also john scott is there just because of his size and parros is still real tough. I agree with lucic being best fighter who can play and englennd and neil best pound for pound fighter.

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03-07-2013, 09:04 PM
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i realize mcgratton is tough but last time i saw him fight orr, orr beat him badly and left him with a bloody nose, that was 2-3 years ago i know things change but i think orr and mcgratton are the top dogs right now in the goon category i would need to see them fight a few more times to distinguish the winner. also i know shaun throton got absolutely killed by john scott but he is still tough as nails and i wouldn't throw him out of the convo. Also john scott is there just because of his size and parros is still real tough. I agree with lucic being best fighter who can play and englennd and neil best pound for pound fighter.
The reasons I didn't list Orr in the goon category are, he can actually play a little bit (a very little). and how could he be the top goon/toughest guy in the league when Neil just beat him and Engelland fought him to a draw.

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03-07-2013, 10:05 PM
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Orr, Neil, Mcgrattan; in that order.

I know one fight doesn't determine who is better P4P, but...



Orr can trade with anyone and almost always ends up winning.

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03-07-2013, 10:59 PM
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Not since 1980's Detroit with kocur Probert has one team had the 2 of the top 5 enforcers on one team

Orr & McLaren

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Not since 1980's Detroit with kocur Probert has one team had the 2 of the top 5 enforcers on one team

Orr & McLaren
That was also in the 90s for the wings but are we really sure we should be crowning McLaren top 5 in the league already? Hes had some really good fights this year for sure but hes not all that proven.

No one was talking about him when he was with San Jose and he really only has 1 impressive win tis year against Scott (who has been bad). Losing to Chris Thorburn and having your wins come against guys like Strachan, Gorges and even Westgarth arent all that impressive. Not enough to be put in the top 5

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sometimes the truth is hilarious
But, how many times has this happened?

Opponent:
"wanna go?"

Rinaldo:


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Chara is not a good fighter but he does win his fights because of his height advantage. Best fighter I think Lucic, Neil, I haven't seen McGratten but I heard he wasn't as good as usual? Orr and Scott are obviously good fighters but I see them more as goons rather than enforcers, still really good fighters though.

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03-08-2013, 12:24 AM
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Orr, Neil, Mcgrattan; in that order.

I know one fight doesn't determine who is better P4P, but...



Orr can trade with anyone and almost always ends up winning.
Minus Engelland or a retired Godard.

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03-08-2013, 06:33 AM
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If Orr is the best enforcer in the game RIGHT NOW, then that shows how much the role of enforcer is extinct. Not saying Orr doesn't win most, but his career was almost over from being knocked out so much.

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