The only bright thing in this game was the fight. The coilers turned that energy into nothing. OMG this team is really starting to annoy me I am lucky I have date with wife so I get to miss the Nashville game
I get it when Flames fans call them that, really don't get it when Oiler "fans" do it. I'm on board with talking about how bad they are, but name calling? really?
1. Throw eggs and pies at Kevin Lowe, his family, his cars and their houses on a daily basis until he resigns.
2. Draft Barkov trade Hopkins + 2014 1st rounder +2014 2nd rounder + Nick Schultz for Hanzal + Yandle.
3. Sign Gagner to 3 year 15 million dollar contract.
4. Sign a 3rd line center to a 2 year deal to give Barkov some time to develop his game and to continue to develop physically so that he doesn't get bum rushed in his first or second season in the NHL.
Wow.
Mike Milbury, is that you?
I hate this team as much as the next person, but trading Nuge is not an option.
Yeah but with that change you can't have remnants of the old group around to poison the mentality/thinking.
This basically means a top-down approach. Lowe, Tambellini, MacTavish, Kruger, Buchberger, Smith - and a whole new coaching and managerial staff.
It may involve moving some of the players as well. This includes the Smid's and Horcoff's that have been around and been "solid" but not difference-makers over the past few years.
Re: Smid, has anyone noticed how painstakingly horrible our break-out is when he's on the ice? Even Steve Staios made it look better.
Yeah, A top down approach may be necessary, considering the minimal progress (at best) over the past 3-4 seasons. Any other organization (excluding Islanders and maybe Panthers) that finishes in the bottom consistently would see their management, Let alone GM replaced, rebuild or not. Some progress has to be made.
Center ice depth behind Gagner and RNH of Horcoff, Belanger, Lander and VV? That's just soft backed up by butter soft, and it's just the same story on the wings and defense. In simplest terms, another year of a roster setup to fail.
The Oilers are going to have to do something this offseason. This is a team devoid of the gritty, physical role players that underpin the success of every good team in the NHL(and the only recent Oiler franchise successes). Those aren't the type of players you can draft in a rebuild and expect contributions within a couple of years, they are the 25 - 30 year old seasoned AHL/NHL vets with years of training and experience that can fulfill important secondary roles on teams.
The Oilers drafted their high end talent, and will get another this year(hopefully Jones), but it's time to rebuild the rest of the roster and stop expecting the kids to perform miracles. Time to spend some money as there are just too many redundant, ineffective, and over the hill players in important roles on this roster to be successful in this league.
don't blame Krueger, anyone would take his job....blame the guy who keeps hiring lousy coach after lousy coach
heck, I'd try to coach thsi pathetic bunch if they gave me a chance
Tambo has no clue how to do anything...can't sign the right players, trade for the right guys or get a competant NHL coach
Krueger isn't an NHL coach...and thats on Tambo
Tambo has had 5 years to assemble a competitive team and it's much worse today than 5 year ago...heck they're worse off than last year
Playing wise, they might be worse that last year. In terms of this year though, I'd have to disagree in saying that they are worse off. At least they have collected some assets that can bring in quality.
Playing wise, they might be worse that last year. In terms of this year though, I'd have to disagree in saying that they are worse off. At least they have collected some assets that can bring in quality.
from sheer incompetance of the management staff
you're right, Tambo has gotten three #1 picks because his teams have been so bad....great legacy to have
This team needs a coach who thinks offense , but the problems are worse than that the teams needs to unload a bunch of passengers collecting pay and nothing else on this team. Ryan Smyth Belanger Potter all need to go asap . Hartikainen Eager Petrell guys who have at least been giving effort all season sitting while the above scrubs been getting prime minutes . Its past the point of reasoninig . Season is almost lost now get rid of dead weight start waiving them send a message to the kids the useless are just that. Trade what we can for what we can get finish season with Harti Petrell Prv all getting valuable minutes Injury's bring up likes of Teubert can't get any worse than it is at least get experience for these guy's Buy out Horcoff Smyth next season Unload Khabbi for anything. Send a message that losers go winners stay.
Our transition has really fallen off now that we replaced Gilbert with Schultz and Whitney has fallen off.
Gilbert for all the hate we gave him was actually an above-average transition guy. Schultz is yet to reach average in that department.
Whitney's failure is a huge loss for us.
Our D has actually gotten better at D-zone coverage, but they've regressed big time in terms of transition. We went from below-average to dead-last IMO in terms of that part of the game. It's a big part of why this team is struggling to score at even-strength, whereas last year scoring was never a problem
Petry is perhaps our best right now (at or slightly above average), J.Schultz will hopefully attain average in 1-2 years. The rest is just horrible.
Our transition has really fallen off now that we replaced Gilbert with Schultz and Whitney has fallen off.
Gilbert for all the hate we gave him was actually an above-average transition guy. Schultz is yet to reach average in that department.
Whitney's failure is a huge loss for us.
Our D has actually gotten better at D-zone coverage, but they've regressed big time in terms of transition. We went from below-average to dead-last IMO in terms of that part of the game. It's a big part of why this team is struggling to score at even-strength, whereas last year scoring was never a problem
Petry is perhaps our best right now (at or slightly above average), J.Schultz will hopefully attain average in 1-2 years. The rest is just horrible.
Actually the Oilers were one of the worst scoring 5x5 teams last year as well. They looked more exciting than this group but they couldn't score 5x5. Their powerplay was absolutely dominant last season and Hall was one of the league leaders in PP goals.
NHL goalies do NOT let in that first goal. I don't care if it was flubbed or handcuffed dd. A legit #1 goalie does NOT let that first goal in, let alone a weak goal in every start for the last 2 weeks.
What's really annoying is if you watched Oil Change, Lowe/Tambo seemed almost happy/proud they didn't do anything to improve the team over the Summer. Didn't feel they "had" to.
Seriously, how could anyone watch that show?
Its bad enough having to watch the actual games, why torture yourself with a slickly packaged replay of the highest lows?
And then to know on top of it, that by watching the documentary you are helping this owner make money off his inferior team, and assisting him in propagating the myth of the "rebuild" and the various excuses as to why the team has gone nowhere but down since Katz and Tamby came to town.
Given the state the team is in, Oil Change is an embarrassment to the franchise, the fans and the city. Its an ode to losing.
Actually the Oilers were one of the worst scoring 5x5 teams last year as well. They looked more exciting than this group but they couldn't score 5x5. Their powerplay was absolutely dominant last season and Hall was one of the league leaders in PP goals.
Sorry I should have said "get chances" 5x5. We were still able to get zone entry and create chances last year. Offense wasn't there for other reasons (similar to what we're having now) - inability to maintain in-zone possession, poor point shots, lack of slot presence with forwards...list goes on
NHL goalies do NOT let in that first goal. I don't care if it was flubbed or handcuffed dd. A legit #1 goalie does NOT let that first goal in, let alone a weak goal in every start for the last 2 weeks.
Great, keep complaining about it. Dubnyk is obviously the problem with this team.
NHL goalies do NOT let in that first goal. I don't care if it was flubbed or handcuffed dd. A legit #1 goalie does NOT let that first goal in, let alone a weak goal in every start for the last 2 weeks.
Yup, 100% agree. I don't have the video, but look at the overhead replay again. Dubnyk had ZERO idea where that puck was. Look at the angle of his head and where he's looking compared to where the puck actually was (slot if I remember). He had already dropped into his butterfly hoping it would hit him, relying on positioning instead of looking for the puck.
He's what, 6'7 or so on skates? Stand up and look over top of everyone and find the puck and make a reactionary save instead of hoping for a positional one!!
Everyone on this team not named Gagner Hall, RNH, MPS,Yak,Smid, Brown and J.Schultz are playing passenger hockey right now. Basically everyone over 25.
I feel sorry for the kids. A 19 year old 185 lb centreman should not be relied on as heavily as RNH is being relied on in both ends of the rink.
Ps. Kreuger seems like a terrible coach. He talks a good game but thats about it. Fire everybody, Bring in Burke and Ruff. Burke would have the balls to improve this team. Vancouver, Anaheim and now Toronto are reaping the benefits of his work. Other than the Seguin trade, he's improved the team greatly. Macarthur, Bozak, Phaneuf, Franson,Gunnarson, Lupul Grabovski, without trading away anyone of significance.
Duby has the same confidence problems as the entire team right now, but where Eberle misses an empty net or Hemsky turns it over on a deke, Dubnyk lets in the game winning goal.
In other words, its not fair to judge Dubnyk right now, when so many Oilers are just shadows.
Holy ****, did Krueger really say that?
It's good to know that Tambellini did his due diligence before hiring this joker. Man Oh Man!!!
The revolving door coach policy alone should be enough to get Tamby fired. If you can't get the coach right on your third try ... you fail at your job and deserve the boot.
These are the most important years of our best players' careers. The team is not providing the atmosphere that is necessary to nurture the talent of these teenagers and gradually allot them responsibility as their improvement warrants.
This sort of hockey team cannot possibly be good for players like Hall, Eberle, RNH, Schultz, Yakupov, Petry or even guys like Paajarvi, Hartikainen and Lander.
Imagine how bad it must suck to be a Gagner or a Gilbert or a Smid and have played five or six seasons - your entire ****ing career - for the idiots running this team. Its a miracle any of those guys has turned into what they are today. A testament to their talent and will to succeed.
Duby has the same confidence problems as the entire team right now, but where Eberle misses an empty net or Hemsky turns it over on a deke, Dubnyk lets in the game winning goal.
In other words, its not fair to judge Dubnyk right now, when so many Oilers are just shadows.
Not really the same.
Anything that hurts Dubnyk's confidence is a direct result of him.
He isn't going to lose confidence because they aren't scoring. He's going to lose confidence because of goals like he let in tonight.
