I'm sure that we're not the only fanbase hearing about speculation that Jarmo could look to get Bishop, and realistically speaking you guys could use a potential #1 (I'm not sold on Bobrovsky...maybe you guys are).
Assuming that you guys are interested in Bishop do you think there's a deal to be made with Bishop and Brassard as the central pieces to a trade?
The going rate for Bishop was a 2013 second rounder, and we'd have to see more of him before upping the offer past that. I do think he'd be an upgrade for the Jackets, and he might be the real deal #1, but he hasn't seen enough playing time to prove it.
As much as Brass may be on the table, it would be stupid to deal him for another tweener goalie.
I will pile on this.
"Every game, every point is a necessity." -- Ty Conklin, January 2007
"I'll have a chance to compete for the post of first issue. This is the most important thing." -- Sergei Bobrovsky, June 2012
We tend to over value our players. Collectively they suck; individually they are worth top line players and first round draft picks.
I wouldn't rule it out completely. If there are no other offers for Brass and there are no other goalie options I think it is much more possible.
The alternatives would then be let brass become an RFA and lose him for less than Bishop or resign him because he suddenly lives up to his draft hype. And we could resign both mason & Bob and thenn ***** about them for a couple more seasons.
In a void maybe the trade doesn't make sense but i think you have to look big picture and further than this season or next to finally right this ship.
Don't see why we would further weaken our forward group for another unproven goaltender. Not that Bishop is bad or worthless or whatever, but he isn't proven and we need offense more than anything in my opinion.
Maybe it's just me but I don't see Bishop as a tweener goalie. The reason he was had for so cheap out of St. Louis is because they had Elliott and Halak playing so hot and Bishop was clearly ready for the big show but hadn't shown anything. If you've been watching Sens games recently you have to be impressed with what Bishop has been doing. He'd be an easy goalie to build around with his size and puck handling ability -- he's also got some intensity and seems to be a good locker-room guy...always smiling and joking around even with Lehner (who comes off as a bit of a dick IMO).
Honestly I'd like to keep Bishop and Anderson (I know it's not going to happen, nor is it the popular opinion) but yeah.
Maybe something like Bishop + Hoffman for Brassard. I know 'unproven' goalies are undervalued as a commodity in general (especially on this site) but Bishop is going to be a stud and is already performing like one in the NHL.
As far as Brassard's value goes...I think he'd be more valuable on the Sens than he is in Columbus right now. He has the talent to be more than a 45 point a season guy. Everyone's seen it. I also like that he gets physical at times and isn't afraid of the corners (small sample on my part). He's an Ottawa boy to begin with and great friends with Methot...I think it'd be a good trade for both teams.
Maybe it's just me but I don't see Bishop as a tweener goalie.
Your perspective on this judgment call really doesn't change a thing. Until you can point to the games he has played wherein he has established himself as a proven, full-time NHL starter, we don't have any need to trade assets for him.