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Evander Kane for Phil Kessel

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03-08-2013, 12:07 PM
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Evander Kane for Phil Kessel

Would this be considered a fair deal?


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Leafs need to add in my opinion.... Kessel is soon to be UFA and Kane is locked up.

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Would this be considered a fair deal? Feel free to flame.
Toronto jumps up and down going yes, and the Jets say forget it.


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I thought it'd be interesting to make this proposal because while Kessel is the better player, Kane has a lot of potential, and is a Carlyle player. There is also the notion that Kane might not want to stay because of his shout match with Noel but I'm sure that was just blown out of proportion. I thought it'd be an interesting proposal. While armchair managers would say no, NHL GMs have done similar things.

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Kane for Kessel-Bozak

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Kane is younger, much more physical, better defensively, will be cheaper for longer, more shots and goals, and .02 ppg behind Kessal.Why would Winnipeg consider this?

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I thought it'd be interesting to make this proposal because while Kessel is the better player, Kane has a lot of potential, and is a Carlyle player. There is also the notion that Kane might not want to stay because of his shout match with Noel but I'm sure that was just blown out of proportion. I thought it'd be an interesting proposal. While armchair managers would say no, NHL GMs have done similar things.
I think that's debateable. Kessel isn't definitively the better player.

E. Kane had 30 goals last year, 57 points, while playing with relatively untalented linemates. Sound familiar? That's Kessel every year before last year.

Kane dominates Kessel in the physical department and in terms of all-around play. Kessel is more skilled, has a better shot, and better playmaking abilities. But his refusal to go into the dirty areas, to fight for the puck, etc, really hamper his ability to be effective.

The only reason I wouldn't trade Kessel for Kane would be if I thought Toronto could get a better deal for a Centre. Otherwise, definitely.

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Jets need to add. Kane isn't on the same level of Kessel.

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Kane's a little punk. No way I want a guy with YMCM or whatever the **** it is on my team love him as a player hate him as a person and not the type or player I want on my team...

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Jets need to add. Kane isn't on the same level of Kessel.
How so? Maybe last year, 24 year old Kessel was better than 20 year old Kane. But this year 21 year old Kane is clearly the superior player.

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03-08-2013, 12:26 PM
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Leafs add and are extremely happy to have the opportunity

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I thought it'd be interesting to make this proposal because while Kessel is the better player, Kane has a lot of potential, and is a Carlyle player. There is also the notion that Kane might not want to stay because of his shout match with Noel but I'm sure that was just blown out of proportion. I thought it'd be an interesting proposal. While armchair managers would say no, NHL GMs have done similar things.
Imo Winnipeg doesn't touch this trade.


A young 30 goal scorer, who's a recent high lottery pick and signed reasonably for 5 more seasons...traded for a young 30-40 goal scorer, who's signed for 1 more season and expected to seek $6m-$8m per.


I'm racking my memory, trying to recall the last time we saw such a trade.

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Kane's a little punk. No way I want a guy with YMCM or whatever the **** it is on my team love him as a player hate him as a person and not the type or player I want on my team...
I'd love to have him on LI.
He's developing into the pf, I can only hope Nino or Nelson develop into.

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Kane for Kessel-Bozak
I'm sure this won't go well haha, oh well. I know this trade won't happen. I just hope there might be interesting discussion, if not my bad. Haven't put much thought into cap implications.

To Tor:
Kane
Bogo
Wpg 2014 1st conditional (Only if kessel takes a vegas money phone pic, if he resigns.)


To Wpg:
Kessel
Lupul/JVR
Gardiner
Tor 2014 1st conditional (becomes nothing, if Kessel signs)

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Jets hang up quick

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I doubt Winnipeg would do it. I would love Kane thou.

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How so? Maybe last year, 24 year old Kessel was better than 20 year old Kane. But this year 21 year old Kane is clearly the superior player.
Why did you take the trolling bait? Everyone knows Kane is by far the better deal than Kessel.

Hes younger, stronger scores almost as much and the rest of his game is vastly superior to Kessel. Hes locked up long term .

The comparison is a total joke.

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Jets need to add. Kane isn't on the same level of Kessel.
do over ....... starting your own team today, you'd pick kessel over kane ?

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Whether Kane or Kessel is better is mostly irrelevant. Jets say no simply because of the contracts with each player. 1 year vs 5 years. If Kessel came with a signed contract in hand, then we might have something here.

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Kane on Kadri's wing would be amazing

i jizzed in my pants thinking about it

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Jets need to add. Kane isn't on the same level of Kessel.
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Whether Kane or Kessel is better is mostly irrelevant. Jets say no simply because of the contracts with each player. 1 year vs 5 years. If Kessel came with a signed contract in hand, then we might have something here.
Even if their contracts are the same, Wpg still says no. Kessel isn't a secret outside TO

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Kane on Kadri's wing would be amazing

i jizzed in my pants thinking about it
I also just changed my drawers.

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Without discussing value at all...no way the Jets do this. It is our GM's vision that this team plays a good two way game. Plays a fast and physical game. He wants guys thy can throw the body and drop the mitts...

Kessel doesn't fit into this mold or into the vision for the Jets going forward.

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Kessel + 1st for Kane is closer

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