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05-23-2013, 01:25 PM
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"Ghetto" Bus Tours Of The Bronx Stopped Due To Outrage

http://pix11.com/2013/05/23/bronx-to...#axzz2U8QJYhVs

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One Bronx tour company has been shut down after allegedly parading people through the borough on “Ghetto Gawking” trips.

The tour company is called Real Bronx Tours and took people to public housing, lines for food pantries, and even pointed out parks they said were good places to get pick-pocketed.

Bronx officials say they only found the borough was being exploited after they sent some undercover staffers to check it out first hand.

The website for “Real Bronx Tours” is gone, but the site used to tout a tour including “a ride through a real New York City GHETTO.”
Now if only such outrage was there to actually do something good about these neighborhoods instead. Nice way to single out a business for doing the same thing Pawn Shops and Payday Loan Centers do for a profit, exploiting the bad neighborhoods in someway shape or form.


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I dont see anything wrong to be honest what they were doing.

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It seems like a safeway for people to get to see what a ghetto looks like.

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As a business, it may be morally despicable, but I see no reason they shouldn't be allowed to run tours like that. It's not like they were trespassing or anything.

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As a business, it may be morally despicable, but I see no reason they shouldn't be allowed to run tours like that. It's not like they were trespassing or anything.
Technically I agree but once word gets out to what their doing couldn't it get a little dangerous? Not that I'd have any idea of what it's like in a Bronx ghetto though.

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If you ask me, the tour was a good thing. At least people would see that **** before they go wandering through there.

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I lived in the South Bronx (Morrisania) for a summer while doing volunteer work. You can walk around anywhere during the day and no one will mess with you. It's at night when the crazies come out and you hear automatic gunfire from time to time.

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I don't see how this broke any laws.

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I don't see why it was shut down.

Yeah, it's dumb and morally wrong but not illegal.

If anything it was probably people from the ghetto who bought a bus and were taking money from ignorant fools that actually paid to go on this bus ride.

Gives me ideas.

I should take an armored car and start selling tours of Mogadishu. Now that would be a tour to take.

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Technically I agree but once word gets out to what their doing couldn't it get a little dangerous? Not that I'd have any idea of what it's like in a Bronx ghetto though.
This. Once the word got out, you'd have some stupid people doing something stupid and/or dangerous just to show off and prove how "ghetto" their area is.

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As a business, it may be morally despicable, but I see no reason they shouldn't be allowed to run tours like that. It's not like they were trespassing or anything.
How is it morally despicable? Could you add an explanation to that? Despicable is a strong word.

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How is it morally despicable? Could you add an explanation to that? Despicable is a strong word.
Despicable is too strong a word but you're basically treating people like zoo exhibits. I don't think anyone would appreciate random peoples trolling by everyday to see how you 'live'.

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There are tours of other kinds of neighborhoods. You can go to see mansions or ethnic neighborhoods, etc.

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Cancelled already? That's a shame. I understand why one might be offended but this could have been used to educate people on the plight many face in these neighborhoods and brought some money into these neighborhoods if the tours were properly ran.

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Despicable is too strong a word but you're basically treating people like zoo exhibits. I don't think anyone would appreciate random peoples trolling by everyday to see how you 'live'.
They do the same in any type of tourbus, in fact you do the same thing when attending a sporting even, and I'm pretty sure it's not legal to do tours in residential neighborhoods(noise/traffic etc) but it's definitely not unethical or anything along those lines.

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There are tours of other kinds of neighborhoods. You can go to see mansions or ethnic neighborhoods, etc.
Exactly. I've been all over South America and taken tours in places undoubtedly more poverty stricken than US ghettos and typically if you treat people with respect they'll treat you the same. People generally appreciate others of different cultures learning about their own and of course they appreciate the $.

Sadly there are groups and people in our country that use the poor and certain racial groups for power and will take any opportunity to make them the victim. In turn this victim mentality permeates the group in question and reinforces their situation.

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Morally bankrupt business forced to stop?


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Exactly. I've been all over South America and taken tours in places undoubtedly more poverty stricken than US ghettos and typically if you treat people with respect they'll treat you the same. People generally appreciate others of different cultures learning about their own and of course they appreciate the $.

Sadly there are groups and people in our country that use the poor and certain racial groups for power and will take any opportunity to make them the victim. In turn this victim mentality permeates the group in question and reinforces their situation.
Pretty much this. I unfortunately missed out on an opportunity to tour a favela in Rio de Janeiro because I found out about it too late - I think I've got a much better understanding of life in Brazil than most gringos, but I'm sure seeing the favela would have been a real eye opener for me.

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Morally bankrupt business forced to stop?

The opposite. It's ivory tower guilt dealers telling people in the ghetto they have nothing worth seeing and that people there are just there to gawk. The 'American ghetto' has a tremendous global influence and for better or worse people want to see it. I fail to see how bringing money and people into the ghetto to learn and to spend money is a bad thing. Perhaps if the people in the ghetto were more in charge of the tours it might have gone over better.

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The opposite. It's ivory tower guilt dealers telling people in the ghetto they have nothing worth seeing and that people there are just there to gawk. The 'ghetto' has a tremendous global influence and for better or worse people want to see it. I fail to see how bringing money and people into the ghetto to learn and to spend money is a bad thing. Perhaps if the people in the ghetto were more in charge of the tours it might have gone over better.
Yeah, turning other peoples misery into a circus attraction is totally cool!

Those human zoo's they had back in the day must have been awesome! Why did they stop doing those?!

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Yeah, turning other peoples misery into a circus attraction is totally cool!

Those human zoo's they had back in the day must have been awesome! Why did they stop doing those?!
Misery. I hope you reread this and see what you've done. You've basically generalized the ghetto and everyone that's in it or want's to see it. Perhaps you need a tour of the ghetto.

The "ghetto" has influenced millions maybe billions of dollars in entertainment and athletics almost none of it making it back. Perhaps the leadership of these tours were irresponsible in how they ran it but if done properly this would have brought in money, people and because of attention perhaps safety and through cultural exchange maybe a way out for some. Instead we have people like yourself that decided the people are too miserable to deserve the attention. Great job!

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Misery. I hope you reread this and see what you've done. You've basically generalized the ghetto and everyone that's in it or want's to see it. Perhaps you need a tour of the ghetto.

The "ghetto" has influenced millions maybe billions of dollars in entertainment and athletics almost none of it making it back. Perhaps the leadership of these tours were irresponsible in how they ran it but if done properly this would have brought in money, people and because of attention perhaps safety and through cultural exchange maybe a way out for some. Instead we have people like yourself that decided the people are too miserable to deserve the attention. Great job!
You're both on opposite ends of extremes.

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It would be a more interesting tour if it was in the 1980's.

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Misery. I hope you reread this and see what you've done. You've basically generalized the ghetto and everyone that's in it or want's to see it. Perhaps you need a tour of the ghetto.

The "ghetto" has influenced millions maybe billions of dollars in entertainment and athletics almost none of it making it back. Perhaps the leadership of these tours were irresponsible in how they ran it but if done properly this would have brought in money, people and because of attention perhaps safety and through cultural exchange maybe a way out for some. Instead we have people like yourself that decided the people are too miserable to deserve the attention. Great job!
Real, living people and the communities they live in are not museum exhibits. Period.

I find it both absolutely hilarious and tremendously sad that you have formed the delusional opinion that being looked at is the attention people in underprivileged areas (you call them "ghettos" and then say that I'm being condescending! ) need.

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