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03-13-2013, 08:18 AM
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With our 20th selection, the 617th in this year All-Time Draft, les Nordiques de Quebec are extremely proud to select, from Glendon, Alberta, Canada, RW Stan Smyl





"To round out our energy line, alongside Mel Bridgman and Orland Kurtenbach, we are please to select another heart & soul of the Vancouver Canucks in Stan Smyl. While undersized, he never played that way and was prolific both offensively and defensively. Standing all of 5'8, 185 pounds Smyl was afraid of no player and served as leader, both physically and emotionally, of the Canucks miracle run to the 1982 Cup Finals. A good two-way player who played on some bad teams in the 80s, Smyl's versatile enough that he can serve on either the PP or PK as needed, or he can be used exclusively to check opposition lines from the 4th line while providing a bit of offensive punch in the process."


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03-13-2013, 08:40 AM
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With their skipped pick Halifax selects HHOFer Dick Irvin, C.

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03-13-2013, 09:06 AM
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With their skipped pick Halifax selects HHOFer Dick Irvin, C.
A star with lots of ink in hockey history about his playing days.

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03-13-2013, 10:51 AM
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Viking Maniacs selects Marcel Bonin.

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03-13-2013, 11:25 AM
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Tough choice, narrowed it down to three guys, selecting Al Shields - D



ck26 has been PMed.

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03-13-2013, 11:27 AM
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Is'nt Hawkeytown on the clock?

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03-13-2013, 11:56 AM
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Is'nt Hawkeytown on the clock?
Yeah, Bubba had HT18's pick and the one after, so I'm guessing that's why he was PMed.

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03-13-2013, 12:00 PM
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The Chicago Shamrocks are proud to select LW Dennis Hull. next pmed.


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03-13-2013, 12:02 PM
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Ok, well Bubba didn't take HT's guy, so we'll just let that one slide.

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03-13-2013, 12:13 PM
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The Chicago Shamrocks are proud to select LW Dennis Hull. next pmed.
Thanks for announcing my pick. ck26 said he wanted to be skipped, so Dwight is up now. PM sent.

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03-13-2013, 01:11 PM
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I guess that's me, then?

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03-13-2013, 01:16 PM
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I'm going to take a little while. Sorry.

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03-13-2013, 01:20 PM
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You've got easily the best "traditional" (so not counting Savard, Ratelle and Bowie) 3rd line center in the draft flanked by a couple of pretty crappy wings, imo. I don't honestly see why Miller should be a starter in the ATD, and Dineen looks like more of a 4th liner to me.

I don't mean to specifically pick on your team, but I have decided not to hold my tongue this draft about things I don't like. I think many GMs are afraid to offer even muted criticism of opponents out of fear that it might come back to bite them come voting time. After seeing last year's ATD champion breeze through without ever getting meaningful criticism for what was really a bad 2nd line, I feel somehow compelled to poke at out of place players when I see them. Not actually running a team has its advantages.
I like that all three are extremely hard working, gritty and determined.

Brind'amour has to be one of if not the best all around third line center in this draft. And with him we start with the puck 60% of the time after a draw.

Miller brings very little offense at this level but he was one of the top defensive forwards in the league for a while. He was durable and a good skater and shadowed the top players. I think that qualifies him just fine to help Brind'amour shut down scoring lines or key players or close out close games.

Dineen is another heart and soul type with sandpaper and determination. I chose him for those qualities and his board work more to help Brind'amour counterattack or cycle in the offensive zone. He obviously isn't as good defensively as the other two.


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03-13-2013, 03:25 PM
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Oh Jeez, I am so sorry.....I got HT's pick and I absolutely spaced because I had to get out of the house for a couple of appointments.

I've been so distracted lately, I'm not normally like this. Penalize me if you must.

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03-13-2013, 03:28 PM
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Penalize me if you must.
Time for a spanking... unless you see that as a reward...

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03-13-2013, 03:29 PM
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I guess that's me, then?

Bill Ezinicki, RW
Ezinicki was the 5th of 5 I was deciding over when I picked Labine....that's all within 15 picks of each other.....maybe I ain't so bad at this.

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03-13-2013, 03:29 PM
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Time for a spanking... unless you see that as a reward...
Well, now you got me thinking.....nah.....

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03-13-2013, 03:32 PM
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Dineen is another heart and soul type with sandpaper and determination. I chose him for those qualities and his board work more to help Brind'amour counterattack or cycle in the offensive zone. He obviously isn't as good defensively as the other two.
Actually I had long ago wanted Dineen as my 4th line RWer, (after O'Reilly and McKenzie were picked), but he was picked way before I had the chance.

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03-13-2013, 03:48 PM
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Actually I had long ago wanted Dineen as my 4th line RWer, (after O'Reilly and McKenzie were picked), but he was picked way before I had the chance.
I get why people would peg him as a 4th liner but I like him on my third.

My fourth line isn't going to be the typical energy line. I got Hollywood/Broadway Nicholls there so...

Dineen fits there personality wise and stylistically and gives Brind'amour someone to work with offensively (Miller doesn't add much there). And that line will have the potential to hem in the other team with forechecking and cycling in the offense zone too. I like em. Screw you guys.



Just did a quick bio on Kelly Miller for those of you readying the flames again.

(warning there are some undrafteds mentioned in it for those of you who are faint of heart)


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03-13-2013, 03:57 PM
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Swamp Devils pick a gigantic hard-hitting defenseman with a booming slapshot who saw big minutes in all situations and who could have been much more if it weren't for injuries.

Bob Dailey, D

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At 6'5" Dailey had the size and strength to patrol the defense with a remarkable amount of agility for a man of his size
  • 6'5, 220-230lbs
  • Right-handed shot
  • averaged 25.25 minutes in his best 5-year segment and 24.49 in his 561-game career
  • Played 52% of his teams' powerplay minutes and 38% of his teams' shorthanded minutes over his career for fairly average special teams units
  • All Star voting: 10th (1978), 16th (1975), 17th (1980), 18th (1979)
  • 1978 & 1981 NHL ASG participant
  • 1975: Named Vancouver Canucks' top defenceman (Team was 9th in the league)
  • 1979: Named Philadelphia Flyers' top defenceman (Team was 4th in the league)
  • 1981: Named Philadelphia Flyers' top defenceman (Team was 6th in the league)

He received this recognition, despite missing major time with injuries.
1975: missed 10 games, received a handful of AST votes, named Canucks best defenseman in his 2nd NHL season.
1976: missed 13 games
1977: missed 4 games, traded midseason
1978: missed 4 games, 10th in AST voting, ASG participant
1979: missed 10 games, received a handful of AST votes, named Flyers best defenseman
1980: missed 19 games, received a handful of AST votes
1981: missed 27 games, ASG participant, named Flyers best defenseman
1982: forced to retire early in the season at the age of 28.

Scoring (via Stoneberg)
-Scoring finishes among D: 9, 11, 17, 20, 22, 26
-D scoring on team: 4th, 1st, 2nd*, 2nd**, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd***
*67 games
**Was traded, his total production would have been good for 2nd on each team
***53 games
-He raised his game in the playoffs going from .58ppg to .73 ppg
-4 times over 100 PIMS

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Midway through the 1976-77 season Dailey was traded to the Philadelphia Flyers, who continued to look for more size and strength for their famed Broad Street Bullies' lineup. The Flyers felt they had lost some of their edginess after having lost in the 1976 Stanley Cup finals to the Montreal Canadiens both on the scoresheet and in the trenches. Reports say the Philadelphia organization was extremely impressed by the Canadiens' 6'4" Larry Robinson, who not only contributed points to Montreal's Cup victory, but also handed the likes of the Flyers' xxx and xxx a humbling lesson in fighting. Looking to obtain their own large, tough, offensive defenseman, the Flyers focused their attention on Dailey
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Years before the likes of Al MacInnis and Rob Blake gained fame and fortune with their blistering right-handed slap shots, Philadelphia Flyers defenseman Bob “The Count” Dailey terrorized NHL goaltenders with deadly accurate 100 mile-per-hour blasts from the point. A two-time winner of the Barry Ashbee Trophy as the Flyers’ best defenseman, Dailey possessed a rare combination of imposing size (6’5’’, 220 pounds), remarkable agility and an occasional mean streak that also carried him to a pair of NHL All-Star Game selections and a Vancouver Premier’s Trophy as the Canucks’ best defenseman.

With the sole exception of U.S. and Flyers Hall of Fame inductee Mark Howe, Dailey was arguably the best offensive defenseman in franchise history. During his Flyers career, Dailey averaged two points for every three games played and recorded a 21-goal season during his first full year in the orange and black.

Unfortunately, a series of injuries, including major shoulder and knee injuries, curtailed Dailey’s effectiveness. When reasonably healthy, Dailey was a heavy body checker as well as an offensive force. But he often played at far less than 100-percent, which made his career seem sporadic and inconsistent to those who were unaware of his physical struggles. Even in his All-Star seasons, Dailey was subject to such lofty expectations that he was sometimes branded an underachiever.

Dailey’s injury woes culminated with a shattered ankle suffered in November of 1981. The injury ended the Count’s NHL career at the age of 28 – an age most defensemen are hitting the prime of their careers.

“It’s not often as a coach that you have a defenseman who can change a game by himself. At his best, Bob Dailey could do that,” former Flyers head coach XXX said in 1994. “If Dailey would have stayed healthier when he was a young player, I think he might have been reached the same type of level in his career as players like Larry Robinson or Denis Potvin. He had that kind of talent, although he wasn’t as consistent."
I love Dailey's upside as a #6 defenseman, and the fact that he can credibly fill on on both special teams. Hopefully, he won't be injured so often while playing #6 minutes.

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03-13-2013, 03:58 PM
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Oh Jeez, I am so sorry.....I got HT's pick and I absolutely spaced because I had to get out of the house for a couple of appointments.

I've been so distracted lately, I'm not normally like this. Penalize me if you must.
Such an egregious transgression must be severely punished. Your penalty - you must forfeit the rights to Scott Stevens to the New Jersey Swamp Devils, where he belongs.

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03-13-2013, 04:00 PM
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I'm just headed home from work I will pick when I get there and have time to try and figure out who I want next

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03-13-2013, 04:57 PM
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Swamp Devils pick a gigantic hard-hitting defenseman with a booming slapshot who saw big minutes in all situations and who could have been much more if it weren't for injuries.

Bob Dailey, D


  • 6'5, 220-230lbs
  • Right-handed shot
  • averaged 25.25 minutes in his best 5-year segment and 24.49 in his 561-game career
  • Played 52% of his teams' powerplay minutes and 38% of his teams' shorthanded minutes over his career for fairly average special teams units
  • All Star voting: 10th (1978), 16th (1975), 17th (1980), 18th (1979)
  • 1978 & 1981 NHL ASG participant
  • 1975: Named Vancouver Canucks' top defenceman (Team was 9th in the league)
  • 1979: Named Philadelphia Flyers' top defenceman (Team was 4th in the league)
  • 1981: Named Philadelphia Flyers' top defenceman (Team was 6th in the league)

He received this recognition, despite missing major time with injuries.
1975: missed 10 games, received a handful of AST votes, named Canucks best defenseman in his 2nd NHL season.
1976: missed 13 games
1977: missed 4 games, traded midseason
1978: missed 4 games, 10th in AST voting, ASG participant
1979: missed 10 games, received a handful of AST votes, named Flyers best defenseman
1980: missed 19 games, received a handful of AST votes
1981: missed 27 games, ASG participant, named Flyers best defenseman
1982: forced to retire early in the season at the age of 28.

Scoring (via Stoneberg)
-Scoring finishes among D: 9, 11, 17, 20, 22, 26
-D scoring on team: 4th, 1st, 2nd*, 2nd**, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd***
*67 games
**Was traded, his total production would have been good for 2nd on each team
***53 games
-He raised his game in the playoffs going from .58ppg to .73 ppg
-4 times over 100 PIMS





I love Dailey's upside as a #6 defenseman, and the fact that he can credibly fill on on both special teams. Hopefully, he won't be injured so often while playing #6 minutes.
You're lucky Canadiens1958 isn't in the MLD or he'd criticize your team solely based on your #6 defenseman.


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03-13-2013, 04:59 PM
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You're lucky Canadiens1958 isn't in the MLD or he'd criticize your team solely based on your #6 defenseman.

Ouch. Did you just called Dailey an MLD #6 defenseman?

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03-13-2013, 05:31 PM
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Ouch. Did you just called Dailey an MLD #6 defenseman?
Dailey was raptor's #1 in the last MLD, which I think is the first time Dailey ever fell to the MLD (he was picked at 675 in ATD2012).

I forgot that Dailey was one of the random players that C1958 went after in the last MLD. I just did a search of his old posts, and my favorite one was criticizing Dailey for not being as good as Bill White (thanks, captain obvious).

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