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03-17-2013, 07:58 PM
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Dumervil's kind of overrated in my opinion.

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Was watching insidious and got scared so i came on here. Any chance you guys think we'll take a wideout in the 1st 2 rounds of the draft?
If the top pass rushers are gone I'd be fine with a WR or Kenny Vaccaro in the 1st round.

Cordarelle Patterson could replace the big play potential of Wallace, but his hands are suspect... wait that's still replacing Wallace

Keenan Allen is a bit more of a possession guy but has much better hands. Kind of a poor mans Larry Fitzgerald. Or maybe Reggie Wayne would be a better comparison.

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03-17-2013, 08:33 PM
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If the top pass rushers are gone I'd be fine with a WR or Kenny Vaccaro in the 1st round.

Cordarelle Patterson could replace the big play potential of Wallace, but his hands are suspect... wait that's still replacing Wallace

Keenan Allen is a bit more of a possession guy but has much better hands. Kind of a poor mans Larry Fitzgerald. Or maybe Reggie Wayne would be a better comparison.
Agree on Allen. I think he's the most likely to come in and make a consistent impact. Patterson or Hopkins might make the "splash plays". Allen wouldn't be nearly as sexy, but would be the guy to extend drives with important catches.

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03-17-2013, 08:37 PM
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If the top pass rushers are gone I'd be fine with a WR or Kenny Vaccaro in the 1st round.

Cordarelle Patterson could replace the big play potential of Wallace, but his hands are suspect... wait that's still replacing Wallace

Keenan Allen is a bit more of a possession guy but has much better hands. Kind of a poor mans Larry Fitzgerald. Or maybe Reggie Wayne would be a better comparison.
Wouldn't mind vaccaro. I pray jarvis jones drops to number 17 for us, but wont happen.

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03-17-2013, 09:27 PM
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Agree on Allen. I think he's the most likely to come in and make a consistent impact. Patterson or Hopkins might make the "splash plays". Allen wouldn't be nearly as sexy, but would be the guy to extend drives with important catches.
Couldn't agree more. His knee is still bothering him though, I wonder if/how that will affect his draft position.

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Wouldn't mind vaccaro. I pray jarvis jones drops to number 17 for us, but wont happen.
Jones would be my #1 by far as well and it was cruel getting teased into thinking he could drop with his health concerns

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Dumervil's kind of overrated in my opinion.
I agree. He'd be a stopgap. One dimensional pass rusher...not saying that is a bad thing though.

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03-18-2013, 12:14 AM
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Not sure if this was talked about here or not. I did not see it linked. Sad story.

Report: Porter's home in foreclosure

Time and time again we hear about NFL players who have mismanaged their money only to wind up in financial trouble. Unfortunately that has now happened to former Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Joey Porter, who is reportedly having his Florida home foreclosed on.

Brian Bandell of the South Florida Business Journal reports that 1st United Bank filed a foreclosure lawsuit on March 6 against Porter and his wife over their Broward County home that was built in 2006 and purchased in 2007– the same year he signed a five-year, $32 million contract with the Miami Dolphins. That contract, as Bandell points out, included a $12 million signing bonus and another $8 million in guaranteed money.


http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articl...osure/13158022

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Not sure if this was talked about here or not. I did not see it linked. Sad story.

Report: Porter's home in foreclosure

Time and time again we hear about NFL players who have mismanaged their money only to wind up in financial trouble. Unfortunately that has now happened to former Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Joey Porter, who is reportedly having his Florida home foreclosed on.

Brian Bandell of the South Florida Business Journal reports that 1st United Bank filed a foreclosure lawsuit on March 6 against Porter and his wife over their Broward County home that was built in 2006 and purchased in 2007– the same year he signed a five-year, $32 million contract with the Miami Dolphins. That contract, as Bandell points out, included a $12 million signing bonus and another $8 million in guaranteed money.


http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articl...osure/13158022
What's bad is that he got 17.5m (guaranteed) from the Cardinals as well. I can't feel sorry for these guys, there are so many examples out there, if they can't learn, tough **** to them.

I don't feel sorry for people that blow their money from stupid things like gambling. I mean really, plan ahead...
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On December 24, 2012, Porter was freed from jail after three days for writing a bad check. He paid $70,000 to cover the check to the Hard Rock Casino for "casino markers" given to him in June and July, 2012.

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03-18-2013, 03:55 AM
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Some players have no clue of how to manage their money. They just spend, spend, spend until they're broke. They don't bother to check their accounts.

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I'd like to see a comparison of retired NFL, NHL, MLB and NBA players and their probability of going bankrupt. I'd google it, but I'm on a plane about to take off.

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NFL or NBA is first and second easily by a large margin

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03-18-2013, 06:46 AM
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Agree on Allen. I think he's the most likely to come in and make a consistent impact. Patterson or Hopkins might make the "splash plays". Allen wouldn't be nearly as sexy, but would be the guy to extend drives with important catches.
Allen looks like a 4.6 guy to me. He'll get very little separation in the draft. I wouldn't even think about touching him until he actually runs.

This team doesn't need chain movers, they need splash plays - you were correct in saying Patterson would be that guy.

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03-18-2013, 08:51 AM
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I'm not sure if I want to pick a receiver in first round. There are plenty of good receivers in second to fourth rounds.

I'm hoping a Top 10 player might drop to 17th like Jarvis Jones. We didn't expect DeCastro dropped to 24th last year. He was in Top 15 in most mock drafts.

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03-18-2013, 02:29 PM
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Matt Spaeth back with the Steelers.

I hope they don't think Spaeth and/or David Johnson is going to replace Heath...

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Anybody else see that the Steelers tried to sign Jake Long.

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03-18-2013, 05:42 PM
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Allen looks like a 4.6 guy to me. He'll get very little separation in the draft. I wouldn't even think about touching him until he actually runs.

This team doesn't need chain movers, they need splash plays - you were correct in saying Patterson would be that guy.
Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7 at the combine. I actually do think the Steelers need a guy like Boldin that doesn't need to be wide open to make a play. Sanders, Brown and even Wallace before he left were not very big or strong in jump ball situations. I'm not saying Allen is guaranteed to be the next Boldin. Maybe the Steelers don't think he is and maybe the 40 time drops him out of the 1st round but I bet a lot of people regret not picking Boldin in the 1st round over that slow 40.

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Anybody else see that the Steelers tried to sign Jake Long.
Yeah, I think sometimes a rare UFA hits the market like a franchise LT and you just have to make a bid but unfortunately they lost out.

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03-18-2013, 06:20 PM
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What's bad is that he got 17.5m (guaranteed) from the Cardinals as well. I can't feel sorry for these guys, there are so many examples out there, if they can't learn, tough **** to them.

I don't feel sorry for people that blow their money from stupid things like gambling. I mean really, plan ahead...
I remember during the brief nfl lockout, there were stories of nfl players taking out high interest loans just in case. What kind of moron do you have to be to blow a 10 million signing bonus?

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03-18-2013, 06:53 PM
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Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7 at the combine. I actually do think the Steelers need a guy like Boldin that doesn't need to be wide open to make a play. Sanders, Brown and even Wallace before he left were not very big or strong in jump ball situations. I'm not saying Allen is guaranteed to be the next Boldin. Maybe the Steelers don't think he is and maybe the 40 time drops him out of the 1st round but I bet a lot of people regret not picking Boldin in the 1st round over that slow 40.
Boldin and Allen are nothing alike.

Why refer to the exception as opposed to the masses? Allen has bust written all over him.

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03-18-2013, 08:12 PM
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We just got 6th round compensatory pick for Gay.

We should get at least 3 compensatory picks for next year (Wallace, Lewis and Mendy).

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We just got 6th round compensatory pick for Gay.

We should get at least 3 compensatory picks for next year (Wallace, Lewis and Mendy).
Wallace should be a high one, hopefully a 3rd, minimum a 4th

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Man, Jake Long would have been nice here.

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Boldin and Allen are nothing alike.

Why refer to the exception as opposed to the masses? Allen has bust written all over him.
How are Boldin and Allen nothing alike? They are both big possession receivers with good hands. Who knows if Allen will be as good but speed isn't everything for a big WR. Demaryius Thomas ran around a 4.6 too. I could find many big WR's that aren't burners but it's not worth the time.

I'm not saying I want to draft Allen. I just don't think speed is everything for a player like him.

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I don't think Jake Long matters, he is a beast I know, but Mike Adams played some good football last year. We didn't get Long, but our LT is no joke either.

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One is simply not like the other.

Not mentioning, Gilbert will more than likely be on the left side, and I just really don't like Gilbert whatsoever

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How are Boldin and Allen nothing alike? They are both big possession receivers with good hands. Who knows if Allen will be as good but speed isn't everything for a big WR. Demaryius Thomas ran around a 4.6 too. I could find many big WR's that aren't burners but it's not worth the time.

I'm not saying I want to draft Allen. I just don't think speed is everything for a player like him.
Allen is soft compared to Boldin.

I'll admit, Allen runs better routes than Boldin.

Allen is much easier to tackle in the open field.

Allen has more trouble catching passes in traffic than Boldin.

I actually don't mind Allen, but certainly not at 17. If it's a trade down to the end of the 1st where we can accumulate picks, I would support it.

One of my biggest issues with Allen is I don't feel he's the type of WR we need. We already have chain movers. That's about all we have. We need guys that can make big splash plays.

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