Dan Carcillo - What gives?

[Cullksinikers]

Originally Posted by Blue Liner

Yes, but I also know what Carcillo is. That wasn't being debated.

Right, and I know what his ceiling is, but labeling a guy as "finished" off a four-minute nice is stupid if the reason for the limited ice time wasn't poor play.

[Bubba88]

Originally Posted by Chris Hansen

Carcillo is the same player he was in Philadelphia, aside from that he's reigned himself in in Chicago - definitely plays with more caution now, which is a good thing. But as far as everything else? Same player. There's no need to wait to judge him. He's a grinder who belongs in the bottom-6, can hit and agitate, score a little bit... that's Carcillo.

no, he's not. He is not the same player he was with the Flyers and when he was with the Flyers he wasn't the same player as he was with the Yotes. The Hawks Carcillo is more like the Yotes Carcillo. Laviolette used him stupid and wrong

[Chris Hansen]

Originally Posted by Bubba88

no, he's not. He is not the same player he was with the Flyers and when he was with the Flyers he wasn't the same player as he was with the Yotes. The Hawks Carcillo is more like the Yotes Carcillo. Laviolette used him stupid and wrong

Uh, in terms of his offensive awareness, shooting ability, passing ability, defensive ability, etc. he is exactly the same.
As I said, he's reigned himself in and taken far less stupid penalties since coming to Chicago. Evidently you agree with me.

Don't just disagree as soon as you see my username, Bubba

[Bubba88]

It's not about you CH, it's about Carcillo here. He isn't the same guy he was with the Flyers. Laviolete used him wrong and stupid. Carcillo is more the player he is with us and he was with the Yotes.
Saw enough Flyers games back then. Dan plays different

[Chris Hansen]

Yes, he plays more under control. Aside from that, he's the same Carcillo. Hasn't developed any additional ability offensively or defensively. Not sure we're really disagreeing anywhere here