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04-04-2013, 08:04 PM
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Off Season - Or this is where we say goodbye!

With the trade deadline behind us, the playoffs in front of us, and off season on the horizon, I thought it would be a good time to kick off the off season plans for Minnesota as it's never too early to discuss this organization and its long term needs.

Right now, we know Harding is pretty much done. It's sad to hear but we got to start planning for after Harding. We also know that Dany Heatley is going to be looking for a new team after June. We are budging up against the cap, so getting Heatley and Harding off the books would be great for the organization. We also got to start planning for Pominville, Setoguchi, Gilbert and what we want to do with them. We also have Cal Clutterbuck, Justin Falk, Jared Spurgeon, Marco Scandella, Steven Kampfer, Tyler Cuma coming up for contracts. And as much as we want to get rid of Scandella, Kampfer, and Cuma, we have ZERO defensive depth.

Our cap space minus Dany Heatley, Cal Clutterbuck, PM Bouchard and Matt Cullen at forward comes out to 27.903 million. Defensively we're not going to see much of a dip in the cap, which comes out to 15.188. Finally, goaltending wise, we have Kuemper and possibly Harding but Harding should be gone. We also got Parrish's buyout at .928 million. We'll be sitting comfortably at 44.919 million in space.

So what do we need?

1/ Center depth and badly. As much as we want Mikael Granlund to make an impact now, he looks like a two/three year project. If Matt Cullen decides to hang them up (which is unlikely) or move on (also unlikely but who knows), Minnesota has Koivu, Brodziak, and Konopka as centers. With Granlund, Graovac, Phillips, and Haula in the minors. Granlund being the only known there and even he might have to swing out to wing if he can't get comfortable at center.

2/ Goaltending. We can hope that Backstrom decides to come back. Why wouldn't he? But after Backstrom, we have an erratic goaltender in Kuemper (we only have one year of hard data on him. His first year was meh) and an unknown in Gusty. If we are to push for the playoffs, we'll need to get a backup like Theodore in here so we don't wear Backstrom down.

3/ Depth defense. A lot of defense. Not in the NHL but also in the AHL. With Gunnarsson and Dumba coming over and up, this shouldn't be as bad but we need a good second pairing and hope Gilbert rebounds. If he doesn't, the Wild are going to be a very, very bad spot. But our defense needs to be made over from 3-7 because Suter and Brodin are going to break down.

Those are the three biggest needs right now for the organization. Our first pick should be a defenseman in the draft, we shouldn't trade Clutterbuck (Bulmer has been more of a project than we wanted and we don't have a lot of talented gritty guys in the AHL. Bus should help, maybe if he can translate over) and we should be looking for Brodie's replacement sooner than later (Larsson, we hardly knew ye).

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Off-season thread already?

Whoa.

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Let's worry about the playoffs first. Not talk about the end until it's the end.

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Forget about playoffs.

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Off-season thread already?

Whoa.
Well, with the trade deadline over with, the playoffs a certainty (there isn't much to talk about there), the off season would be the next discussion as we already know pretty much where this team is headed. Even if we win the Stanley Cup finals, there will be still the same issues coming up next year.

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Setoguchi and a 2nd for Del Zotto.

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Well, with the trade deadline over with, the playoffs a certainty (there isn't much to talk about there), the off season would be the next discussion as we already know pretty much where this team is headed. Even if we win the Stanley Cup finals, there will be still the same issues coming up next year.
Seeding is what the Wild are fighting for. 3rd seed is still theirs for the taking, that is something that is talked about on a daily basis!

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Seeding is what the Wild are fighting for. 3rd seed is still theirs for the taking, that is something that is talked about on a daily basis!
Well, make a playoff thread then! This is for the offseason :p And speculation over moves that we should have/need to make for next year.

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Setoguchi and a 2nd for Del Zotto.
What? No. That's an ugly trade all around. Del Zotto is massively overrated.

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Setoguchi and a 2nd for Del Zotto.
Failed on the Rangers board.

Failed on the Mainboard.

Failed on the Wild board.


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Well, make a playoff thread then! This is for the offseason :p And speculation over moves that we should have/need to make for next year.
We don't even know if right or wrong moves were made, because we don't know how this season will end.

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We don't even know if right or wrong moves were made, because we don't know how this season will end.
:p Well, we can always say should have gotten another defenseman LOL

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Offseason?! Don't talk to me about the offseason. Are you kidding me?! Offseason?! I just hope we can finish the regular season and hopefully playoffs first!

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Re-sign Cullen, Clutterbuck, Spurgeon and Backstrom. Amnesty Heater (It pains me to type that, but we can't afford him with Pominville). Let some kids make the jump next year, and maybe see if we can add some depth on the D. Also, we don't know for sure that Harding is done.

Pominville/Koivu/Parise
Zucker/Cullen/Setoguchi
Coyle/Brodziak/Clutterbuck
Mitchell/Konopka/Rupp

Suter/Brodin
Gilbert/Dumba?
Spurgeon/Stoner or Prosser

Backstrom
Harding or Kuemper

It looks good going into next season. It's just up to GMCF to be opportunistic and make it all fit under the cap.

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A revamp of the D wouldn't be so bad.

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Failed on the Rangers board.

Failed on the Mainboard.

Failed on the Wild board.

I never propoed it on the Rangers board, and the reaction on the main trade board was that DZ could get more than my original of Seto and a lower pick.

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Lets start with a new coach and two top four defensemen.

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Not jumping on the fire Yeo bandwagon (yet) but definitely improvement is needed on the back end. Not sure if we need another offensive presence in our top 4 or if we need a steady defensive presence to help out Gilbert because his current partners sure aren't doing him any favors, not that Gilbert himself has been exactly stellar either though.

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If we manage to miss the playoffs Yeo should be fired right as our season ends.

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Anyone got a list of upcoming UFA's?

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If we manage to miss the playoffs Yeo should be fired right as our season ends.
I'm in agreement with this. No excuse for the same **** 2 years in a row.

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Anyone got a list of upcoming UFA's?
How about "we can't afford anyone worthwhile"?

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Not a single free agent d-man worth getting except maybe Hainsey.

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