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03-11-2013, 09:34 AM
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how good was Randy Carlyle?

just wondering if some of you recall randy when he played on your blueline their in winnipeg?

what kind of player was he was was some of his skill set? Did he skate fast or out think his opposition etc Did he hit hard play 20 min a game etc etc

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03-11-2013, 10:01 AM
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Speaking strictly from memory and not from stats- he was a solid defensemen. When he first arrived he had some offense to his game which as he got older moved to a more defensive style. Always pretty smart with the puck, good passer, and played with a mean streak- crazy good at carving guys with his stick. Solid leader in the dressing room as well.

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03-11-2013, 10:11 AM
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later in his career you needed a wheeler to get him from one end of the ice to the other but he was really really smart and when he left it created a hole in the blue line that was hard to fill. As mentioned he was a very good offensive defenseman early in his career and transitioned his game smoothly as he got older to a smart stay at home D man who always did the right thing with the puck.

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And before each period he'd be the last player huddling around the goalie, and give him a GIANT whack with his stick to the pads. Of course that wouldn't work these days as the stick would be about 50% to break in two.

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I recall he had great hair

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Norris Trophy winner in '81 with Piitsburgh, , had several good years here later but definitely got a little slower and less effective the last couple of years.... definitely pretty heavy handed with the stick

both him and Housley's last year here was Teemu's first year when he set those rookie records that will stand forever
the bigger loss to our D was when Housley left after, IIRC, being our top scorer his first two years here and second to Teemu his last year here... of course, the argument could be made that you could hardly call him a defenceman

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Wasn't he like the last NHLer to be still not wearing a helmet.

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It seems to be Craig McTavish. He was the only Jet though that still wasn't wearing one.

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both him and Housley's last year here was Teemu's first year when he set those rookie records that will stand forever
the bigger loss to our D was when Housley left after, IIRC, being our top scorer his first two years here and second to Teemu his last year here... of course, the argument could be made that you could hardly call him a defenceman [/QUOTE]

Man - who could forget Housley firing a pass to a streaking Teemu at center ice. Best one two punch in hockey. Maybe ever.

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Started as decent d-man with offensive skills, and evolved into a really solid d-man. Good with and without the puck, and as hard on opponents as he tells his players to be on opponents. Carlyle was a lead by example player, who, I heard, was succinct and direct with his words in the dressing room.

Fans tended to like him because he worked, but he took some criticism towards the end of his career as the points dropped off and his age was showing.

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Kitty (his nickname) was great for the Jets in his 'early Jet' days. I remember him having a great shot from the point. Though it never looked like a hard shot - it was accurate.

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both him and Housley's last year here was Teemu's first year when he set those rookie records that will stand forever
the bigger loss to our D was when Housley left after, IIRC, being our top scorer his first two years here and second to Teemu his last year here... of course, the argument could be made that you could hardly call him a defenceman
Man - who could forget Housley firing a pass to a streaking Teemu at center ice. Best one two punch in hockey. Maybe ever.[/QUOTE]

It was stellar.

Housley was such a great passer and skater.

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Housleys pass was damn near a slapshot too.

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I remember crazy dumb penalties from randy, he was very chippy, still one of our best D ever.

Housley used a short stick and every pass had to look like a slapper, he ruled. Housley knew the best way to defend the puck in his own zone was to find a way to hide it in the others teams net.

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both him and Housley's last year here was Teemu's first year when he set those rookie records that will stand forever
the bigger loss to our D was when Housley left after, IIRC, being our top scorer his first two years here and second to Teemu his last year here... of course, the argument could be made that you could hardly call him a defenceman
Man - who could forget Housley firing a pass to a streaking Teemu at center ice. Best one two punch in hockey. Maybe ever.[/QUOTE]

And that was before they removed the red line for the two line pass. Think of how many goals Selanne could have scored without that rule in place?

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Carlyle was a solid defenseman. I remember seeing him during the playoffs against Gretzky's Oilers. In spite of the offensive punch of the Oilers, Carlyle along with Mario Marois always played the right moves.

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Was very young at the time, but I remember he being a good offensive defenseman in his earlier days with the Jets. IN fact he was the Jets MVP in the horrid 1985-86 season and was chosen for an all star game or two during his time here.

As stated by others, later on he became a defensive defenseman due to loss of foot speed, but was very fundamentally sound especially along the boards in his own zone. I still remember a Coaches Corner in the early 90s, when Don Cherry had some video of Carlyle working the puck along the boards saying, "this is how you young kids should do it," or something like that. Then Bure came in from off-screen and Carlyle sent him flying on his butt. Don said," yeah, get that little....."

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Pretty much echo the comments so far. Personally I find it more interesting to see who all the old timer posters are

Carlyle will always be well respected in Winnipeg. He played on honest game and evolved his game as his skill level diminished. One of my all time favorites. As a coach those early 80's Jets teams would have drove him crazy.

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In short, he's the ideal replacement for Hainsey as 2nd pairing LHD with Bogo. Too bad T-dot got him first.

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Thanks for the feedback

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03-13-2013, 12:41 AM
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Carlyle was a top-level defenceman. I had a VHS tape that was wearing out and decided I would tape two Jet games on it and then not re-tape it any more. The Jets had back-to-back Wednesday games on TV against the Rangers and Sabres. I watched the tape a while back and Carlyle was better than I had remembered.

He is the reason Teemu was #13 before being #8.

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