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03-14-2013, 01:21 PM
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playoff is not about perfection but about scoreboard. we all remember Pittburgh an Washington slaps!
We should remember also that the Bruins won the Cup two years ago, and that Philadelphia eliminated a better Penguins team, last Spring.

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Well, I'm not saying Habs can't surprise a "better" team. All I'm saying is that I don't think they could do that enough to reach the finals, and I don't think they can do that to the Bruins, unless Price steel the show.

Boston is built to succeed in the playoffs. That team impresses me a lot.

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Well, I'm not saying Habs can't surprise a "better" team. All I'm saying is that I don't think they could do that enough to reach the finals, and I don't think they can do that to the Bruins, unless Price steel the show.

Boston is built to succeed in the playoffs. That team impresses me a lot.
They just play well enough to win games, and they can play any style you're throwing at them. + They got a better goalie than I thought. They got size, speed, and amazing face offs skills.

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if we take a chance with Vermette we can see :

Pacioretty Derharnais Gallagher
Ryder Plekanec Gionta
Prust Vermette Bourque
Galchenyuk Dumont Eller

and still have Armstrong and Moen if we have to swap a young and tired player .... also have to metion even if we can learn Faceoff a faeoof specialist can be really a good addition and better is the fact if he can plays on PK to give extra time to Plekanec ... having 4 lines who can score is also something good!! non?!
Why are you keep putting Eller on the wings...is almost our best center right now (Beat DD in all aspect right now)???

When Bourque is back.....i would go back to what has been working:

Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
That line is the main reason for the great start of this season and they were hot until Bourque got hurt...Ryder played on the right normally.

Pacioretty-DD-Ryder
Ryder is supposed to be on the right....Gallagher played a lot of hockey this year, and in the playoff, he might be tired.

Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Gallgher will be more effective with a big center like Eller, able to create time and space for him...and reunite the chemistry between the 2 kids

Moen/White-Prust-Amrstrong/Dumont
Energy, grit, responsiblae defensively...always needed in the playoff

I don't think the habs that much of a center or anything else for that matter.
If we are in 1st place, it's because of those players....they diserve to go to war all together, they earn it....each and everyone of them!!

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03-14-2013, 01:31 PM
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Chris Stewart? As big as lucic is and is playing well in St. Louis. Might cost a lot though

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03-14-2013, 01:34 PM
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Chris Stewart? As big as lucic is and is playing well in St. Louis. Might cost a lot though
Why would St-Louis trade him ?

Forget about these big names from teams that are in serious Payoffs race.

Of course, you could tell me that we got Ryder for Cole, but this trade is still a mystery for me.

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Why are you keep putting Eller on the wings...is almost our best center right now (Beat DD in all aspect right now)???

When Bourque is back.....i would go back to what has been working:

Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
That line is the main reason for the great start of this season and they were hot until Bourque got hurt...Ryder played on the right normally.

Pacioretty-DD-Ryder
Ryder is supposed to be on the right....Gallagher played a lot of hockey this year, and in the playoff, he might be tired.

Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Gallgher will be more effective with a big center like Eller, able to create time and space for him...and reunite the chemistry between the 2 kids

Moen/White-Prust-Amrstrong/Dumont
Energy, grit, responsiblae defensively...always needed in the playoff

I don't think the habs that much of a center or anything else for that matter.
If we are in 1st place, it's because of those players....they diserve to go to war all together, they earn it....each and everyone of them!!
we can also have Galchenyuk Eller Dumont ... I do still think that we need another vet centerman to help.

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03-14-2013, 02:04 PM
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The habs have 3 solid lines moving forward when the injuried players come back

Patches-DD-Gally
Bourque-Pleks-Gio
Gally-Eller-Ryder
Prust-white-moen

All they need is to get a heavyweight who isn't a defensive liability to take moens spot

Defense is where the problem is we have 2 top D-men in PK and Markov but lack top4 D as only gorges falls into that role with 3 top 6 in Diaz, Emelin and bouillon

We need a big strong top 4 D

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Why would St-Louis trade him ?

Forget about these big names from teams that are in serious Payoffs race.

Of course, you could tell me that we got Ryder for Cole, but this trade is still a mystery for me.
How is it a mystery? Dallas traded an upcoming UFA for a guy under contract for 2 more seasons.

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The habs have 3 solid lines moving forward when the injuried players come back

Patches-DD-Gally
Bourque-Pleks-Gio
Gally-Eller-Ryder
Prust-white-moen

All they need is to get a heavyweight who isn't a defensive liability to take moens spot

Defense is where the problem is we have 2 top D-men in PK and Markov but lack top4 D as only gorges falls into that role with 3 top 6 in Diaz, Emelin and bouillon

We need a big strong top 4 D
You really think MT is gonna bench Armstrong? after this entire season when Armstrong has been absent on the ice for 97% of his shifts, and coming off of what was likely his worst game all season? Armstrong is a mainstay in this lineup until his contract is up whether we like it or not. When it comes down to it, come playoff time I'd rather have Moen than Armstrong in. Moen at least has a history of hard play in the playoffs, maybe that will spark him. But, shoyld be clear as day that Armstrong's spot is safe because of MT's love for him.

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03-14-2013, 02:15 PM
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They just play well enough to win games, and they can play any style you're throwing at them. + They got a better goalie than I thought. They got size, speed, and amazing face offs skills.
That's the thing I think is the most important. To win a cup, you're team must be able to play and succeed in any style of game. Habs aren't there yet. But they're heading in the good direction.

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03-14-2013, 02:17 PM
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How is it a mystery? Dallas traded an upcoming UFA for a guy under contract for 2 more seasons.
They traded their best goal scorer last year, and best point getter this year for a 34-35 y.o. vet who was stuggling in Montreal, and was mentally and physically unprepared to play a season this year.

The trade deadline was far away, and Dallas could had won some more games with Ryder with their team.

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03-14-2013, 02:24 PM
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They traded their best goal scorer last year, and best point getter this year for a 34-35 y.o. vet who was stuggling in Montreal, and was mentally and physically unprepared to play a season this year.

The trade deadline was far away, and Dallas could had won some more games with Ryder with their team.
Exactly. Bergevin fleeced them!

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03-14-2013, 02:41 PM
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Eklund is in the potatoes with his Byfuglien crap. There is no way the Habs trade for him as a d-man, he is too out of shape to be good defensively and his game is too similar to what we already have.
A mountain of a man that can clear the crease, or stand in front of the net on the PP without being moved?

I don't think we have either of those, Byfuglien brings both of those intangibles plus a wicked slapper.

Having said that there's no reason Winnipeg moves him.

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A mountain of a man that can clear the crease, or stand in front of the net on the PP without being moved?

I don't think we have either of those, Byfuglien brings both of those intangibles plus a wicked slapper.

Having said that there's no reason Winnipeg moves him.
Already had talks a few days ago with jets fans

Only offers they liked were

Eller+beaulieu and 2013 1st

Or

Gallagher+Subban

Don't know bout you guys but that is way too expensive

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They traded their best goal scorer last year, and best point getter this year for a 34-35 y.o. vet who was stuggling in Montreal, and was mentally and physically unprepared to play a season this year.

The trade deadline was far away, and Dallas could had won some more games with Ryder with their team.
and they added a 3rd pick in bonus

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Already had talks a few days ago with jets fans

Only offers they liked were

Eller+beaulieu and 2013 1st

Or

Gallagher+Subban

Don't know bout you guys but that is way too expensive
LMAO Gallagher and Subban.

I'd do the 1st one in a heartbeat though.

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Chris Stewart? As big as lucic is and is playing well in St. Louis. Might cost a lot though
Stewart has been their best forward this year and it costed them EJ to acquire him, he will not come cheap!

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Stewart has been their best forward this year and it costed them EJ to acquire him, he will not come cheap!
Kaberle, Weber, Our 3rd round pick 2013, and because he will not come cheap I will toss in a 7th round pick

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LMAO Gallagher and Subban.

I'd do the 1st one in a heartbeat though.
I wouldn't to be honest the price is very high, I'd love him but that is our best D prospect and a great young roster player

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Why are you keep putting Eller on the wings...is almost our best center right now (Beat DD in all aspect right now)???

When Bourque is back.....i would go back to what has been working:

Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
That line is the main reason for the great start of this season and they were hot until Bourque got hurt...Ryder played on the right normally.

Pacioretty-DD-Ryder
Ryder is supposed to be on the right....Gallagher played a lot of hockey this year, and in the playoff, he might be tired.

Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Gallgher will be more effective with a big center like Eller, able to create time and space for him...and reunite the chemistry between the 2 kids

Moen/White-Prust-Amrstrong/Dumont
Energy, grit, responsiblae defensively...always needed in the playoff

I don't think the habs that much of a center or anything else for that matter.
If we are in 1st place, it's because of those players....they diserve to go to war all together, they earn it....each and everyone of them!!
Those would be my lines. Galchenyuk seems to player better with younger players as he tries passing the puck to the vets too much when he plays with them.

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They traded their best goal scorer last year, and best point getter this year for a 34-35 y.o. vet who was stuggling in Montreal, and was mentally and physically unprepared to play a season this year.

The trade deadline was far away, and Dallas could had won some more games with Ryder with their team.
I didn't say it was a good trade. That was just their reasoning.

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I completly agree with you here. On 1 game any given night, Habs can beat anyone. But not in a 4/7 series, except maybe if Price steal the show, which I don't think he can do for more than 1 series.

I can't see Habs beat Boston in a 4/7 series. And no Pittsburgh either.
And were we not one goal away from beating the Bruins in game 7 OT, 1st round 2011?? We have an improved team now!

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we can also have Galchenyuk Eller Dumont ... I do still think that we need another vet centerman to help.
In a healthy lineup Dumont is a guy you consider swaping out Armstrong for, not a guy in your top nine if you have the option. Having one of Prust or Bourque back pushes him off Eller's line and potentially puts him back to Hamilton until the next injury.

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In a healthy lineup Dumont is a guy you consider swaping out Armstrong for, not a guy in your top nine if you have the option. Having one of Prust or Bourque back pushes him off Eller's line and potentially puts him back to Hamilton until the next injury.
young have now their chance just as Tinordi we are preparing next year as we play this one to have a playoff spot ... thing are are we contender and what are the missiing puzzle piece ... and yes a give a chance to a rookie instead a next to be ufa player ... i do consider future instead of fellow friendchip with the coach ... if he does earn a spot may he play as well ! as for now he does have the chance and the power to take a spot and I highly hope he does!!

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