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03-11-2013, 07:31 PM
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What do yall want for Talbot alone?

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03-11-2013, 07:33 PM
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What do yall want for Talbot alone?
He doesn't hold much value... For what he's worth on the market, I rather keep him.

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No, he absolutely can't.
why can't Eller replace Cooter?

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yea....no thanks. If I'm moving Couturier to Montreal its gonna be for Tinordi + or with extras for Subban.
ok what about Nathan Beaulieu?

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03-11-2013, 07:54 PM
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What do yall want for Talbot alone?
Really Late 1st / High 2nd

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Young 2nd-round level defensive prospect, preferably PMD

It's a sellers market, and we need PMDs.

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why can't Eller replace Cooter?
Ignoring the fact that Eller can't replace Couturier, the Flyers have Laughton waiting in the wings anyway. Eller is completely useless to us.

And honestly, if Eller is so good, why are you guys constantly trying to get Couturier? It can't just be a French-Canadian thing at this point. If you like Eller, stop trying to upgrade him.

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03-11-2013, 08:02 PM
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Schenn ain't goin nowhere. Especially for that package.
Luke, along with Grossmann,have been our best defenseman. Flyers pass.

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03-11-2013, 08:04 PM
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Really Late 1st / High 2nd

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Young 2nd-round level defensive prospect, preferably PMD

It's a sellers market, and we need PMDs.



Ignoring the fact that Eller can't replace Couturier, the Flyers have Laughton waiting in the wings anyway. Eller is completely useless to us.

And honestly, if Eller is so good, why are you guys constantly trying to get Couturier? It can't just be a French-Canadian thing at this point. If you like Eller, stop trying to upgrade him.
it is a french-canadian reason.. why else would we want Couturier more than Eller?
and yes cooter is going to be a bit better IMO.
and whats your point about Laughton? Whether you have Cooter and Laughton or Eller and Laughton, whats your point?
you'll be willing to refuse Diaz with a second rounder and a RW prospect just
because you think Cooter is a bit better than Eller?
loll take off your bias glasses and maybe you'll come back to reality...
this is obviously a big overpayment for Cooter. thats how much we want
our french canadians in montreal

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03-11-2013, 08:09 PM
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They don't like Eller... He is the punchingbag of the fans since the departure of Scott Gomez.

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how old is cooter already ?

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ok what about Nathan Beaulieu?
I'm not really educated enough on Beaulieu to have an unbiased comment on that. I'm just really high on Tinordi after seeing him for a couple years live in London.

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03-11-2013, 08:17 PM
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how about:

- Diaz
- Eller
- Kristo
- 2nd Rounder


- Couturier


Eller can easily replace Cooter. Diaz is a high quality
offensive D-Man. and the 2nd rounder with Kristo is a bonus.
The Flyers could trade Couturier for Stu Bickel and he would easily replace him. It doesn't mean he would replace his ability.

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03-11-2013, 09:41 PM
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I do think Montreal and Philly make decent trading partners...it wouldn't surprise me to see a semi major trade down the road...perhaps in the off season...but what we really need is a # 1 d man and I do not think Montreal is willing to give up on Subs at this point....who knows though....

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03-11-2013, 09:43 PM
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how old is cooter already ?
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I really think M. Talbot could be a player that Bergevin would want.
Michel Therrien Had him in pittsburgh and knows him well.

I wouldnt be surprised if we offer a 2nd pick for him.
Or maybe a later pick and a random puck moving D prospect, because we have twenties in the system (Thrower, Ellis, Dietz, Pateryn).
Or maybe simply Weber for Talbot.

We'll see.

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03-11-2013, 09:57 PM
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I really think M. Talbot could be a player that Bergevin would want.
Michel Therrien Had him in pittsburgh and knows him well.

I wouldnt be surprised if we offer a 2nd pick for him.
Or maybe a later pick and a random puck moving D prospect, because we have twenties in the system (Thrower, Ellis, Dietz, Pateryn).
Or maybe simply Weber for Talbot.

We'll see.
Thrower is someone I would have serious interest in.

Maybe something like Talbot for Thrower + 4th/5th?


My interest though is really Beaulieu. I know it would take overpayment, but would something like Talbot + Laughton/Cousins + get it done? Probably not, but Beaulieu is exactly the kind of guy we need in the Flyers' system right now.

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03-11-2013, 10:03 PM
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yea....no thanks. If I'm moving Couturier to Montreal its gonna be for Tinordi + or with extras for Subban.
Heyyyyy Subban has more value than Couts? not so long ago this wasn't the case.


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Heyyyyy Subban has more value than Couts, not so long ago this wasn't the case.
Honestly, the Subban talk was heated, but acquiring Subban was never something many Flyers fans were interested in from the start. Many didn't want to give up anything of value even when greeted with the potential of Subban in Philly. While I think that's a little overboard, there's something to that.

The Flyers shouldn't be looking to get someone like Subban or Diaz. We're looking for guys like Tinordi or Beaulieu or Thrower; particularly Beaulieu.

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03-11-2013, 10:15 PM
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Honestly, the Subban talk was heated, but acquiring Subban was never something many Flyers fans were interested in from the start. Many didn't want to give up anything of value even when greeted with the potential of Subban in Philly. While I think that's a little overboard, there's something to that.
Ya no its all good. No hard feelings.

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Brayden has been quoted as saying that his brother's presence has had a lot to do with him finding his game. Luke makes Brayden comfortable and makes him better like potential RICHARDS better. Additionally, his presence makes everyone not in a Flyers uniform very uncomfortable.

Schenn's value isn't just based on his performance it is how he affects his brothers.
Also, Talbot isn't as valuable to other teams as he is too us. Unless you want to overpay.

Couturier is going nowhere. The only place he should be moved to is a line where he can log more minutes, play more offense, and not be so heavily relied upon defensively. Just b/c he is so young and could benefit from less D responsibility. IMO.

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Honestly, the Subban talk was heated, but acquiring Subban was never something many Flyers fans were interested in from the start. Many didn't want to give up anything of value even when greeted with the potential of Subban in Philly. While I think that's a little overboard, there's something to that.

The Flyers shouldn't be looking to get someone like Subban or Diaz. We're looking for guys like Tinordi or Beaulieu or Thrower; particularly Beaulieu.
I hope I'm wrong and the org is right, but that is who I wanted to draft in the 2nd.

sorry for double post

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03-11-2013, 10:27 PM
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I hope I'm wrong and the org is right, but that is who I wanted to draft in the 2nd.

sorry for double post
Me too even though Stolarz is doing well.

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To Philly :

Beaulieu
2nd pick

To Montreal:

Simmonds
Talbot

Deal?

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To Philly :

Beaulieu
2nd pick

To Montreal:

Simmonds
Talbot

Deal?
No thanks. It's creeping close to fair for Simmonds alone, but I still wouldn't do it. Simmonds is a guy who is too important to the team. Seriously one of the more underrated players in the NHL. He's unique for sure. It doesn't matter if he puts up 30 points or 70; Simmonds is key to the Flyers for precisely that reason. He's fairly close to untouchable along with Giroux, both Schenns, Couturier, Voracek, and Grossmann.

If this was Hartnell + Talbot, I'd think a lot harder though. Still no, but it's closer.


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To Philly :

Beaulieu
2nd pick

To Montreal:

Simmonds
Talbot

Deal?
no, Simmonds isn't being moved at all.

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Talbot+Laughton for Beaulieu+3rd seems like a logical move for both sides. Montreal has a solid D core for the future and Philly has the center depth to facilitate a Laughton/Beaulieu swap. Laughton seems like he'd be the right fit as a gritty, two way centerman for the Habs.

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