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03-15-2013, 11:52 PM
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Assuming all free agents want to sign here:

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Morrow-Kesler-Clarkson
Clowe-Weiss-Hansen
Torres-Lapierre-Armstrong

Hamhuis-Bieksa
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Tanev-O'Byrne

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Mason

Trade Booth, Ballard, Schneider for future investments.
Armstrong and Mason? Seriously?

I'd rather have Weise or Pinner as 4th RW and Raycroft or Ellis as the back up

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03-15-2013, 11:54 PM
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I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is then i would be inclined to chose Roy over Ribeiro and it seems like a Gillis move
It's just a guess, but I would think Ribeiro will look for 1st line money somewhere. Roy I think could be signed for around 5 million on a 4-5 year deal.

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03-15-2013, 11:58 PM
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Armstrong and Mason? Seriously?

I'd rather have Weise or Pinner as 4th RW and Raycroft or Ellis as the back up
Hooch is crazy.

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03-16-2013, 12:45 AM
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It's just a guess, but I would think Ribeiro will look for 1st line money somewhere. Roy I think could be signed for around 5 million on a 4-5 year deal.
The problem with Ribeiro is likely term. He's 33 and will be looking for as many years as he can get. Gillis seems wary of commiting to players entering their mid-thirties.

Roy makes more sense because he's 29. Small, skilled forwards often have long careers as well.

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03-16-2013, 12:54 AM
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Ribeiro is an interesting option. I heard though that Oates is begging ******* to re-sign him............so maybe he's not really trade bait. Add to that, I bet ******* would ask for Schneider in return - and that's too much.

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03-16-2013, 12:55 AM
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The problem with Ribeiro is likely term. He's 33 and will be looking for as many years as he can get. Gillis seems wary of commiting to players entering their mid-thirties.

Roy makes more sense because he's 29. Small, skilled forwards often have long careers as well.
Roy is 5'8" - unless Gillis is looking at Kesler moving to the wing, this does not make a lot of sense to me. The team went out and got Malhotra after being physically beat down in the playoffs against Chicago. Now they are going to (hopefully) go back into the playoffs and use a 5'8" centre on the third line? I don't get it.

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03-16-2013, 01:12 AM
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Shawn Mathias makes a lot of sense to me, for the 3C hole.

Young still (25).
Contract ends this year, but he's an RFA, probably won't get any more than 1.1 mil.
Solid defensively while being able to put up some goals.
Has a +4 on a team that is collectively -37 with goals. (one of only 2 Florida players with a positive +\-, keep in mind he plays the penalty kill as well).
Decent size (6'3", 211 lbs)
Canadian (not a big deal, but... can't hurt!)
Can hit and fight.

He seems like a better fit to me, than Goc. And he can probably be had for less...


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03-16-2013, 01:20 AM
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Roy is playing pretty well in Dallas. He's getting around 45% offensive zone starts so that the Stars could use Benn in a more offensive role this year -- something Jeff Angus pointed out on twitter the other day. He's small, but he's solid and a good transition player.

He's having a poor shooting year, but he's worth looking at.

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03-16-2013, 01:24 AM
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Roy is playing pretty well in Dallas. He's getting around 45% offensive zone starts so that the Stars could use Benn in a more offensive role this year -- something Jeff Angus pointed out on twitter the other day. He's small, but he's solid and a good transition player.

He's having a poor shooting year, but he's worth looking at.
depending on the price, i too would like Roy

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03-16-2013, 01:27 AM
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Roy is 5'8" - unless Gillis is looking at Kesler moving to the wing, this does not make a lot of sense to me. The team went out and got Malhotra after being physically beat down in the playoffs against Chicago. Now they are going to (hopefully) go back into the playoffs and use a 5'8" centre on the third line? I don't get it.
you also have to realize how we have changed since then, we are a much more physically ready team imo, surrouding Roy with guys such as Booth/Kassian/Kesler can really be effective in the post season. Having smaller players is not an issue as long as you surround them with the right people. Just my .02

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03-16-2013, 01:35 AM
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Shawn Mathias makes a lot of sense to me, for the 3C hole.

Young still (25).
Contract ends this year, but he's an RFA, probably won't get any more than 1.1 mil.
Solid defensively while being able to put up some goals.
Has a +4 on a team that is collectively -37 with goals. (one of only 2 Florida players with a positive +\-, keep in mind he plays the penalty kill as well).
Decent size (6'3", 211 lbs)
Canadian (not a big deal, but... can't hurt!)
Can hit and fight.

He seems like a better fit to me, than Goc. And he can probably be had for less...
Agreed, Florida fans have said goc has been good but mathias has been better, i just have no idea why Florida would trade him, a big young center who is not expensive right now and trending upwards, but I can hope tallon is looking for offers.

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03-16-2013, 01:39 AM
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Roy would look so sick with us. If we could have Kesler and the Sedins on the first unit with Roy, Burrows and whoever else is producing on the second unit...

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03-16-2013, 01:46 AM
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Would anyone here give up Schneider for Couturier? He'd be a perfect fit for 3C, and will improve.
Couturier would be pretty much the ideal #3C here, with potential to move up over time if, like Jordan Staal, his wheels can catch up to his ability otherwise.

Giving up Schneider instead of Luongo would hurt, and i'd be really reluctant to make that deal. But i think i'd do it. Couturier has so much upside for a guy whose floor appears to be an excellent checking center. That's a risk i think i'd take. Loved him at the draft, and was shocked he fell as far as he did.

I could see him rounding into a Martin Hanzal type player if he ever grows into his big frame. And that's a player that every team would kill to have on their roster. Great defensive skill and physical size to excel in that role, but also the skill and vision to fit seamlessly with other skilled players.

Hard to see it happening this season though. Maybe a summer deal, if we haven't moved a goalie yet and haven't addressed the #3C spot long-term?

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03-16-2013, 01:46 AM
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I'd take Roy, simply because we need secondary offense. Wherever Roy plays in our lineup, I think he produces at a fairly respectable rate because we have wingers from line one to three that can produce. His added offense would only be beneficially, IMO.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Raymond Roy Hansen
Higgins Lapierre Weise
Pinnizotto
Sestito

I just quickly threw this together, but the combinations are hilariously endless.

First PP Unit

Sedin Sedin Burrows/Kassian
Kesler Edler

Second PP Unit

Raymond Roy Hansen
Garrison Hamhuis/Bieksa/Whoever

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03-16-2013, 02:14 AM
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I'd take Roy, simply because we need secondary offense. Wherever Roy plays in our lineup, I think he produces at a fairly respectable rate because we have wingers from line one to three that can produce. His added offense would only be beneficially, IMO.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Raymond Roy Hansen
Higgins Lapierre Weise
Pinnizotto
Sestito

I just quickly threw this together, but the combinations are hilariously endless.

First PP Unit

Sedin Sedin Burrows/Kassian
Kesler Edler

Second PP Unit

Raymond Roy Hansen
Garrison Hamhuis/Bieksa/Whoever
He would take so much offensive pressure off Kesler.

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03-16-2013, 02:17 AM
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He would take so much offensive pressure off Kesler.
No kidding. Considering he'd be a "rental" what do you think he'd be worth?

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03-16-2013, 02:19 AM
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We could roll

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Roy-Kassian
Higgins/Raymond-Kesler-Hansen
Pinner-Laps-Raymond/Higgins
Weise/Sestito

and have 2 offence only lines with a hella good 3rd line.

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03-16-2013, 02:20 AM
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No kidding. Considering he'd be a "rental" what do you think he'd be worth?
I dont know. Maybe a second?

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03-16-2013, 02:22 AM
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I dont know. Maybe a second?
That's what I was thinking. Couldn't be much more unless say Toronto bids us up....

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03-16-2013, 02:25 AM
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He'll get more than a second. Maybe a 2nd and a B prospect/3rd liner/decent D. A late first.

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03-16-2013, 02:25 AM
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I dont know. Maybe a second?
about what I was thinking as well, would be willing to throw in a meh prospect

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about what I was thinking as well
I can't see it being that easy. Our second is going to be a late one and there are other teams with better seconds we have to outbid. Dallas viewed Ott as a 1st in value, so they'll want most/all of that back when they sell Roy.

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We could roll

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Roy-Kassian
Higgins/Raymond-Kesler-Hansen
Pinner-Laps-Raymond/Higgins
Weise/Sestito

and have 2 offence only lines with a hella good 3rd line.
That's just wasting Roy basically, IMO.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Higgins
Raymond-Roy-Hansen
Sesty/Pin-Lappierre-Kassian

Badass and skilled lineup.

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about what I was thinking as well, would be willing to throw in a meh prospect
He's still kind of young, so you would think gillis would be interested at resigning him. that being said, the 5-6 he might want scares me.

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I can't see it being that easy. Our second is going to be a late one and there are other teams with better seconds we have to outbid. Dallas viewed Ott as a 1st in value, so they'll want most/all of that back when they sell Roy.
depending on the price, I would probably be ok with throwing in a half decent prospect as well

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