I don't know. But he was never the same player afterwards. Just a completely different guy. I thought for sure that we were going to really regret losing him to TO but that was a huge blessing in disguise. Shocked to see him regress the way he has. He used to be fearless and now I have a hard time seeing him getting an NHL job. I mean seriously who's going to want this guy?
He tore his shoulder for one thing. Really hope Tinordi doesn't have to play heavyweight, as he'd currently be miscast. In time though I think he could be that guy.
They're giving these kids a shot at the big league, and then they send them back down hungry and wanting for more.
That's both evil and brilliant. I'm certain they didn't send Pateryn down with a kick in the ass, but with a pat on the back. Now, I can't wait to see how Tinordi is going to measure up (horrible pun very intended).
Actually, he is a bad fighter. He missed more games injured because bad fights then any other reason.
If we want him to be a top D, he will have to stay clear of fight as much as possible.
Tinordi's biggest strength being as big as he is, is his skating. His balance and strength on his skates are great. While I'll agree he isn't going to be a monster, when he inevitably adds 20lbs. of muscle, the added strength, his reach, and his balance will make him fare much better in fights. He won't be in Gill territory, simply because Gill has poor balance, so that's why you don't see him lay big hits and wreck guys in fights. Guys like Komisarek seem to have the weight, but lack the instinct to really throw 'em, Komi always bearhugged people. You can see from the YT that he doesn't back down or shy away from being an offensive fighter.
His ability to fight won't improve for a while, and I don't think he should fight in his callup, but let's not forget that he needs to fill out his frame before we can truly say he can't fight.
I really like the way Therrien and Bergevin are handling this team. Giving chance to some rookies D to play couples of games in the NHL and get some experience is a good thing.
That shows that the team is really confident that they can bring a rookie in the line up against any teams all the time. Instead of playing Kaberle which would be the easy to go solution. Give some experience to the kids. Couples of games for Pateryn, now Tinordi, maybe he'll stick with the team until Diaz comes back. Who knows? Can't wait to see him play.
Micro management by Bergevin. Getting Ryder and a third round pick for Cole. Bringing the rookies up to give them some "sniff" of the Nhl.
Bergevin is like a chessmaster placing his peons one small move at the time
Great news! Tinordi has shattered my expectations this year in Hamilton. He's been great all year, so it's well deserved.
For those asking about his physicality...if you're expecting Pronger, than I think you need to readjust your expectations. Tinordi has been more focused on my playing simple, but yet extremely effective hockey. That doesn't mean that he isn't mean though. Not much of an open ice hitter, but very mean in front of the net and is usually the first guy involved in scrums or standing up for a team mate.
As for the fighting, he has some work to do there. His technique isn't awful, so I think that most of his "issues" are linked to mass. He needs to improve his strength, but that will come as he adds weight. There's certainly potential to be a better fighter, but I don't think he'll ever be as crazy as his father was.
Whether you think Tinordi is a good fighter or a bad one, I think we can all agree on one thing - if he lives up to his potential (top 4, heavy-minute eating defenceman), he shouldn't be sitting in the box for fighting goons anyway. He'll be way too valuable to the team to be doing that.