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Ladislav Smid Signs 4-Year Extension ($3.5M AAV) | Confirmed @ post #365

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04-02-2013, 08:46 AM
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Love that smid re-signed, but zero credit to tambo here...yet another no-brainer move.

Smid, who has publicly praised the team and his role since he came here, who has expressed his want to remain an oiler since the start, and who, again publicly, stated that he would take a hometown discount by signing for 3.5, got exactly what he was asking for. How is tambo getting any credit for simply realizing that he should take the handount? Smid signed himself.

Ill reserve any credit for management until after I see how the gagner situation gets handled, the dead weight gets dealt with, and the trade deadline day goes off. If history is any indication...
Maybe he said that because that's where him and Tambo were headed to with their negotiations.

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Really like this deal. The term and dollars is exactly what this team needed going in. Smid really signed a deal that works for this team.

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04-02-2013, 12:04 PM
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=419574

Most people thought it was going to be 3.5--but you pay for loyalty

this would take the total players signed next year to 15 for 52mill with a cap of 64

that leaves 12million for 7 players including Gagner

RFAs
Gagner $4.75m x 4
MPS $2.1m x 3
Peckham $1.0m x 1
UFA
Whitney not resigned
Fistric $2.0m x 2
Habby


Puts us at $2m under the cap. Replace Whitney with Klefbomb or another rookie.

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04-02-2013, 12:12 PM
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gagners gonna need more than that.

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Really like this deal. I was hoping for a bit less but expecting close to four.


Since Olcyk has come on board the contracts have been a lot better imo. Obviously Smid was willing to take a value contract as well

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04-02-2013, 03:47 PM
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Really like this deal. I was hoping for a bit less but expecting close to four.


Since Olcyk has come on board the contracts have been a lot better imo. Obviously Smid was willing to take a value contract as well
Hasn't Rick been here for 4 or 5 years now?

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04-02-2013, 04:34 PM
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I've said from the start that Grossman's deal with Philly this past offseason should be considered the line in the sand for Smid. Anything under that and Tambellini got him at a discount, anything over and he overpaid. Smid ended up getting the EXACT contract under almost identical circumstances (only Grossman's extension came after the trade deadline, and to the team that traded for him).

I would've much rather we overpaid him a little over letting him walk (or trading him), so I'm quite happy we were able to keep him at a reasonable rate. The 4 year term is also good, IMO. I'm not a big fan of deals much longer than that in general, and a 5-6 year deal would've made me a little nervous.

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04-02-2013, 05:23 PM
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Is Smid = N. Schultz?
N. Schultz was a very good shutdown d for Minnesota but here most say not so much.

I feel both are overpaid though we had no choice or he would walk.

Smid deal is a good enough deal and shows the team we are serious and shows the team the Oilers will pay more than fair so love us for money.

I do remember "Money talks or Smyth walks" and he did. Now they cater to Smyth even though he walked for peanuts. The players seem to decide what they get, the teams are at their mercy.

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04-02-2013, 07:02 PM
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Hasn't Rick been here for 4 or 5 years now?
I think since Howson left but IIRC one of his main responsibilities has been contract negotiations for re-signs.

We've mad mistakes when signing free agents but our own contracts have been good imo

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10-14-2013, 11:28 PM
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Is Smid starting to fade or is it a systems problem or what? Never was the best puck mover but he's looked agonizingly indecisive moving it this season.

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10-14-2013, 11:39 PM
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Is Smid starting to fade or is it a systems problem or what? Never was the best puck mover but he's looked agonizingly indecisive moving it this season.
I think he's always been no more than 4-5D-man. Playing with a good puck-mover in Petry masked some of his technical limitations and below average hockey sense. It also appears Eakins prefers guys who can move the puck (J.Schultz, Petry, Belov, Ference), even if they are not nearly as reliable in own end. Hence the reduction of ice time and possible loss of confidence.

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10-14-2013, 11:42 PM
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Is Smid starting to fade or is it a systems problem or what? Never was the best puck mover but he's looked agonizingly indecisive moving it this season.
I don't see any difference. He has always been a slug. Package him up with something else for an upgrade asap.

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10-15-2013, 04:25 AM
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Never was a fan of Smid. While he still has a lot of values left in him it's better to package him up in a trade. I still want Coburn dammit. As for Petry, I still had high hopes in him until now. Again it's better to package him up in a trade.

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10-15-2013, 08:28 AM
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Is Smid starting to fade or is it a systems problem or what? Never was the best puck mover but he's looked agonizingly indecisive moving it this season.
what's with you bumping these old threads?
there is enough to talk about without doing that.

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10-15-2013, 09:17 AM
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the guy never had top-pairing potential...he is what he is

a decent #4 with some toughness

not an offensive bone in his body, can't move the puck great but a good teammate and pretty gritty

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10-15-2013, 09:19 AM
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I always thought this guy was overrated by Oiler fans.
He just doesn't have the hockey sense to be a legit shutdown guy. I don't care that he isn't much of a puckmover, i just never felt that he was THAT good at playing defense, not bad but not that good either. Great at blocking shots, average to below average at every other aspect.
Nice guy, high character guy but not a very good hockey player. He's a bigger Nick Schultz basically.
Having him as the top minutes shutdown guy exposes his flaws. Put him on a team like Boston with 2nd pairing minutes and plenty of D support and he becomes a better player.

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