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03-14-2013, 10:31 PM
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For what we need, there is no reason to move Beaulieu.

We could probably move Kristo and Leblanc with a 1st to get Clowe, Murray, Petrecki and a 2nd. Clowe and Murray are the exact pieces we need for our Cup run.

We do not need Couturier. Not now, not ever. Eller is already better, Galchenyuk is better, Plekanec is better, DD is better. Right NOW. Will Couturier get better? Yes. Will he be better soon enough to make the difference we need this season? No. As was posted by someone else, if Couturier were called Smith or Krivachuk we would not be having this asinine discussion.

If you want to move Beaulieu + to the Flyers, aim for Simmonds. At least that way we get something we need for this and future seasons. We do NOT NEED Couturier. We need to get a couple of pieces so we can win the Cup this year...and be ready to make continual runs at trying to win it in the future. We should not be giving up what it would cost to get a center when we are well stocked at that position.
Pleky is decreasing from year to year.. he's passed the 30yr old mark.
you're nuts not to trade for Cooter just because Pleky is there..
Again he's 20 yrs old..
you're going to have a way better team for the next 10 years with Cooter
then with DD and Pleky... DD is under sized, and Pleky is getting older
so he's decreasing slowly but surely..
Cooter would easily fit the line up.. Yes Simmonds would also be good
but Cooter brings you more depth down the Center line and would be
awesome to have after Chucky.
you're being too Bias on what your seeing this year.. don't look at this year.
He's having that Rookie slump which happens to some really young rookies.
like RNH.. He's too talented and has too much potential not to bounce back.
believe me or not. He's going to be way more important than simmonds is..
Like i said you can always Convert him as wing like we did to Chucky.
Until Pleky or DD leave. which would be the case if Cooter was here..

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03-14-2013, 10:33 PM
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He's French thus the new Lecavalier. Its an OCD that won't stop until the next big French prospect comes along. Couturier to Montreal threads will continue for the next 6 years until the next one comes along.

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03-14-2013, 10:36 PM
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what in the world are you blathering about? Habs are going to break the bank for Sean Couturier and his 7 pts and -10?
with desharnais, plekanecs, white, eller and galchenyuk all playing very well for a 1st place team and we're living in the future?
ALL 5 of those centers are 30 or under 30, 26, 24, 23 and 19.

and how do you know he'd make that trade? leblanc was playing well before his sprained ankle and Beaulieu is the habs best offensive Dman prospect - and like couturier, both are 1st rounders too.

I like couturier but can we stop talking about him like he's the second coming of Christ - on a team that's doing well right now and already has lots of nice young players?
buddy you'll have Cooter for 10 years more than Pleky.
6 years more than DD..
you think he wont be better than Pleky and DD in the next 2 years!?
a GM would laugh at you for that comment you wrote..
i know Cooter this year isn't doing good... but forget about this year.
a lot of young rookies have a 2nd season slump, it happens...

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03-14-2013, 10:43 PM
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buddy you'll have Cooter for 10 years more than Pleky.
6 years more than DD..
you think he wont be better than Pleky and DD in the next 2 years!?
a GM would laugh at you for that comment you wrote..
i know Cooter this year isn't doing good... but forget about this year.
a lot of young rookies have a 2nd season slump, it happens...
so habs trade their best two way center that leads team in TOI and goals on a team in 1st place for a center that might turn into something very special in a few years.

makes sense

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He's French thus the new Lecavalier. Its an OCD that won't stop until the next big French prospect comes along. Couturier to Montreal threads will continue for the next 6 years until the next one comes along.
this. especially for the younger fan boys

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so habs trade their best two way center that leads team in TOI and goals on a team in 1st place for a center that might turn into something very special in a few years.

makes sense
did i say trade Pleky..
i said that yes he WILL replace Pleky..
why wouldn't he replace Pleky?
Pleky is 30yrs old, Cooter is 20.
Btw i also said that you don't have to trade Pleky next year
or in 2 depending how Cooter does.
but till then you convert Cooter to the wing position.
why not add a talented 20yr old french canadian that will add size skill
and an amazing defensive game. That has the potential to become like
Jordan Staal?

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03-14-2013, 11:03 PM
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Yeah man Cooter! Definitely Cooter for sure... Not Chucky or Pleky!! Cooter buddy, so awesome... Cooter!!!

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Yeah man Cooter! Definitely Cooter for sure... Not Chucky or Pleky!! Cooter buddy, so awesome... Cooter!!!
why not Chucky? who said ''not Chucky''?

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You take a lot of special courses don't you champ

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You take a lot of special courses don't you champ
Courses? ....
are you ok there buddy?

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Beaulieu + Borque

for

Bryan Allen + Devante Smith-Pelly + Matt Beleskey + pick

Enough grit? Not enough grit?

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Beaulieu + Borque

for

Bryan Allen + Devante Smith-Pelly + Matt Beleskey + pick

Enough grit? Not enough grit?
idk. i'd try to get Cam Janssen if anything for cheap if its just
for grit and toughness for our 4th line.
this is why, and there is alot of other more examples..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=rQ4EEKmvl6c

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03-15-2013, 12:11 AM
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I agree completely but he is an upgrade on Eller and we can potentially move Eller for a good winger
No... Eller>Couturier

You don't trade your best all around player.

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03-15-2013, 12:15 AM
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No... Eller>Couturier

You don't trade your best all around player.
Eller>Cooter this year yea.. but in the next years to come.
i doubt it.. when Cooter hits 23yrs old like Eller which is in 3 years.
i think he will be better IMO.

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Beaulieu + Borque

for

Bryan Allen + Devante Smith-Pelly + Matt Beleskey + pick

Enough grit? Not enough grit?
Not enough Etem! He'd be the player I'd want from Anaheim, otherwise I'd pass.

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Burmistrov from Winnipeg is a player I'd consider for Beaulieu.

Maybe make it Burmistrov + Stuart for Beaulieu + Bourque.

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Not enough Etem! He'd be the player I'd want from Anaheim, otherwise I'd pass.

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Burmistrov from Winnipeg is a player I'd consider for Beaulieu.

Maybe make it Burmistrov + Stuart for Beaulieu + Bourque.
Etem would definitely be the ideal player to get for Beaulieu.
Etem is big plays physical. decent hands. great shot. perfect for
our centers in Montreal in the future. especially a guy like Chucky.

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Etem would definitely be the ideal player to get for Beaulieu.
Etem is big plays physical. decent hands. great shot. perfect for
our centers in Montreal in the future. especially a guy like Chucky.
Unfortunately the Ducks are in no hurry to ship him out. Local kid will be given every possibility to succeed just from a marketing standpoint alone.

Beaulieu isn't exactly a need for the Ducks either just being greedy. lol Borque would be of more help to the Ducks.

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It looks like Couturier is the new Lecavalier. I do not understand why our fanbase like him so much while we already have good centers in Eller/Galchenyuk/Plekanec.
He's got real good upside. Philly made a mistake and gave up on JVR too quick. If you can get a good buy on Couturier take it. Play him as 4th line center this year, but he will develop into much more over next few years. He put up big numbers in junior, he's 20, with his size and strenght should evolve to second line 60 pts power forward.

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After the Flyers fan base arguing over Couturier's value, now we have our own fanbase bashing on our centers over Couturier's value...

Sure sure, Couturier is going to be great, it's crystal clear to everyone. But when and how do we need him that much ? How is Plekanec on the decline ? Cause last time I checked, last year, he was playing with Moen and Darche... Plekanec is and will be for a good 3 years our most reliable center while we wait for the maturing of Galchenyuk, Eller and Desharnais.

All three of them are doing quite good at this point. Sure Desharnais is small, say it all you want... but I'd like to see anyone taking the puck away from him when he's behind the net. It doesn't happen very often you know ? He doesn't look that small when he's right behind the goalie... His chemistry with Pacioretty is perfect, why break it just because our center is "too small" ? And they have Gallagher with them that drives other teams nuts...

Then you got Eller, who's got a decent shape and is more and more gaining weight. He's starting to hit more and doesn't try to do too much like he used to. Arguably, he's to succeed to Plekanec in an even more physical player later on. I think if someone is underrated at the moment, it's Lars Eller, especially when all we keep hearing about is Couturier. He's looking much better this year anyway than last year, so let's just imagine he could get even better for an instant ?

And of course, Galchenyuk. The kid's 18 and boy does he look impressive. I don't think I've ever seen him make a bad defensive play yet, but I sure have seen a lot of good plays. Right now he seems too shy to take some risks, but that's perfectly normal, he's only 18 afterall. He wants to impress the coach but by making sure he doesn't put his team in danger. Maybe that's also why he's not agressive enough on faceoffs when he could really be amazing there... But in a few years, without a doubt he would have the 1st line to himself if we can pair him with two talented wingers.

Do we ABSOLUTELY need Couturier ? I don't think so...

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He's French thus the new Lecavalier. Its an OCD that won't stop until the next big French prospect comes along. Couturier to Montreal threads will continue for the next 6 years until the next one comes along.
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Yup you're probably right.

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Beaulieu is rank 9 overall in the dman prospect ranking ... And out of those 8 before him 3 of them play in the nhl , (Hamilton - smith - Schultz )

Beaulieu is a blue chip prospect .. We will only trade him for the same quality prospect !!

Every GM make a trade cause they think that this trade will be beneficiary for is team ... Sometime GM make risky move cause they hope it will be a high risk big reward kind of thing but sometime it the contrary !! Look at the Ryder -cole trade .. Cole wasn't playing good but the GM in Dallas saw that cole was a more complete player then Ryder and thought he could make him bounce back ... To be realistic cole is a more complete player then Ryder no doubt .. Even do Ryder only play north south style he's been good in mtl and I think we needed that kind of guys !!

Beaulieu is something other team lack .. There is not many defence prospect that as Beaulieu all around game .. Is game IQ is very good , he will run a pp like Markov does !! His only little to improve it is defensive game not that is not good but like all the young dman , the defensive game in the nhl is different then in the junior . I don't remember one dman that started is career without struggling defensively !! Beaulieu is a stud so we should only move him for an other stud like him with the same upside


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After the Flyers fan base arguing over Couturier's value, now we have our own fanbase bashing on our centers over Couturier's value...

Sure sure, Couturier is going to be great, it's crystal clear to everyone. But when and how do we need him that much ? How is Plekanec on the decline ? Cause last time I checked, last year, he was playing with Moen and Darche... Plekanec is and will be for a good 3 years our most reliable center while we wait for the maturing of Galchenyuk, Eller and Desharnais.

All three of them are doing quite good at this point. Sure Desharnais is small, say it all you want... but I'd like to see anyone taking the puck away from him when he's behind the net. It doesn't happen very often you know ? He doesn't look that small when he's right behind the goalie... His chemistry with Pacioretty is perfect, why break it just because our center is "too small" ? And they have Gallagher with them that drives other teams nuts...

Then you got Eller, who's got a decent shape and is more and more gaining weight. He's starting to hit more and doesn't try to do too much like he used to. Arguably, he's to succeed to Plekanec in an even more physical player later on. I think if someone is underrated at the moment, it's Lars Eller, especially when all we keep hearing about is Couturier. He's looking much better this year anyway than last year, so let's just imagine he could get even better for an instant ?

And of course, Galchenyuk. The kid's 18 and boy does he look impressive. I don't think I've ever seen him make a bad defensive play yet, but I sure have seen a lot of good plays. Right now he seems too shy to take some risks, but that's perfectly normal, he's only 18 afterall. He wants to impress the coach but by making sure he doesn't put his team in danger. Maybe that's also why he's not agressive enough on faceoffs when he could really be amazing there... But in a few years, without a doubt he would have the 1st line to himself if we can pair him with two talented wingers.

Do we ABSOLUTELY need Couturier ? I don't think so...
This. Pretty much sums everything up. Habs are set at centre. What we need now is another young, talented, high upside winger prospect. A name that really intrigues me is Emerson Etem from Anaheim and Tomas Jurco from Detroit

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- Plekanec
- Beaulieu



- Michalek
- Stone/Pumpel

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Montreal will not be moving Beaulieu + for a PF. Our offense looks fine as is for now and we can always reassess in the offseason. Montreal is in no position in the long run to be moving our top prospect not in the NHL.
Although I do think he is a good prospect I think that Kristo is the best.

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