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03-24-2013, 06:53 PM
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Porkchop says the Bruins offered Koko and a 2nd for Morrow. Hes probably wrong but if thats true Chiarelli deserves a swift kick in the balls.
I would give Cal Koko and a first for Iggy, then trade Horton for picks/prospects, then trade for a forward for the 3rd line and a depth Dmen, win the Cup and extend Iggy.

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Everyone was telling me I was out of my damn mind for suggesting that the asking price (made by Calgary's ownership) for Iginla around the deadline would be Hamilton / Seguin + Spooner / Khokhlachev / Subban / Knight / Caron + 1st. With what Pittsburgh had to give up for a much lesser and much more degenerated player in Brendan Morrow (compared to Iginla) and factoring in that asking prices in trades are dependent on the team involved, does anyone doubt that I'm still far off in my assessment of what Calgary ownership / Jay Feaster will likely be asking for in return from the Bruins?


I'm not saying that the Bruins are offering these players or that they haven't listed them ahead of time to be off the table - rather, this is the type of deal that Calgary ownership (who I feel is really running the show up in Calgary, not Feaster) would deem acceptable.

My upper limit would be Caron + 2013 1st + Sauve or another B level prospect (Camper, Krug, Warsofsky, Bartkowski etc).

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Everyone was telling me I was out of my damn mind for suggesting that the asking price (made by Calgary's ownership) for Iginla around the deadline would be Hamilton / Seguin + Spooner / Khokhlachev / Subban / Knight / Caron + 1st. With what Pittsburgh had to give up for a much lesser and much more degenerated player in Brendan Morrow (compared to Iginla) and factoring in that asking prices in trades are dependent on the team involved, does anyone doubt that I'm still far off in my assessment of what Calgary ownership / Jay Feaster will likely be asking for in return from the Bruins?


I'm not saying that the Bruins are offering these players or that they haven't listed them ahead of time to be off the table - rather, this is the type of deal that Calgary ownership (who I feel is really running the show up in Calgary, not Feaster) would deem acceptable.

My upper limit would be Caron + 2013 1st + Sauve or another B level prospect (Camper, Krug, Warsofsky, Bartkowski etc).
Very much so.

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03-24-2013, 06:57 PM
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Jagr is the guy I've wanted all along. I would think a 2nd round pick and a B-prospect would be a possible starting point of the deal.

But more importantly, the Clowes and Morrows and even the mythical Iginlas, while they are undoubtedly an upgrade over the Caron/Bourque/Pandaflo monster, aren't what the B's need to win another Cup.

More grinders, more cyclers, more streaky power forwards...bleh.

We need a guy with composure and good hands and a ridiculous ability to protect the puck and get to the spaces on the ice where goals happen. Jagr does that.

His hands are still sick. His timing and composure is something NONE of our forwards can match.

Yesterday, when Horton missed the stuff in and the puck spurted out to him, Nate collected the puck, spun around and rushed a shot straight into Reimer's stomach, even though none of the defenders had reacted or closed in on him yet. If that is Jagr, he pirouettes, comes back around, knows he has time and lifts the puck top corner over Reimer's shoulder. That's who Boston needs. The guy who scores that goal.

Jagr on the power play would be money. He doesn't fly down the ice anymore, but he would park his big mullet body in the middle of it all and live off rebounds and garbage putbacks.

Jagr baby. Jagr.
Couldn't have said it any better. Jagr with Krejci would give Krejci a spark as well.

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03-24-2013, 06:58 PM
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Very much so.
If a lesser deal is what Calgary is currently asking for, why do you believe a trade hasn't already happened?


Edit: I'm not advocating that it's correct that Calgary should even be close to asking for that type of deal, I just happen to believe Calgary is out of their damn minds and until a deal like that is proposed, there isn't one to be made.

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Everyone was telling me I was out of my damn mind for suggesting that the asking price (made by Calgary's ownership) for Iginla around the deadline would be Hamilton / Seguin + Spooner / Khokhlachev / Subban / Knight / Caron + 1st. With what Pittsburgh had to give up for a much lesser and much more degenerated player in Brendan Morrow (compared to Iginla) and factoring in that asking prices in trades are dependent on the team involved, does anyone doubt that I'm still far off in my assessment of what Calgary ownership / Jay Feaster will likely be asking for in return from the Bruins?


I'm not saying that the Bruins are offering these players or that they haven't listed them ahead of time to be off the table - rather, this is the type of deal that Calgary ownership (who I feel is really running the show up in Calgary, not Feaster) would deem acceptable.

My upper limit would be Caron + 2013 1st + Sauve or another B level prospect (Camper, Krug, Warsofsky, Bartkowski etc).
Yes. You're still far off. They would never get a Seguin/Hamilton type of return straight up for Iginla. Even less a 1st and another prospect.

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03-24-2013, 07:02 PM
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If a lesser deal is what Calgary is currently asking for, why do you believe a trade hasn't already happened?


Edit: I'm not advocating that it's correct that Calgary should even be close to asking for that type of deal, I just happen to believe Calgary is out of their damn minds.
That's why a deal hasn't taken place.

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Dreger reporting that Feaster is now asking for the GMs firstborn.

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This isn't the Jarome Iginla of 2004. They'll be lucky to get an A prospect + 1st.

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03-24-2013, 07:05 PM
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Everyone was telling me I was out of my damn mind for suggesting that the asking price (made by Calgary's ownership) for Iginla around the deadline would be Hamilton / Seguin + Spooner / Khokhlachev / Subban / Knight / Caron + 1st. With what Pittsburgh had to give up for a much lesser and much more degenerated player in Brendan Morrow (compared to Iginla) and factoring in that asking prices in trades are dependent on the team involved, does anyone doubt that I'm still far off in my assessment of what Calgary ownership / Jay Feaster will likely be asking for in return from the Bruins?


I'm not saying that the Bruins are offering these players or that they haven't listed them ahead of time to be off the table - rather, this is the type of deal that Calgary ownership (who I feel is really running the show up in Calgary, not Feaster) would deem acceptable.

My upper limit would be Caron + 2013 1st + Sauve or another B level prospect (Camper, Krug, Warsofsky, Bartkowski etc).
No effing way would Iginla fetch anywhere near that type of deal. Adding in one of Seguin/Hamilton is laughable, let alone adding in a first and another solid prospect.

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03-24-2013, 07:06 PM
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B's should play chicken here.

Take it right up to the deadline and let Calgary deal with the possibility of getting nothing for Iginla.

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Jagr is the guy I've wanted all along. I would think a 2nd round pick and a B-prospect would be a possible starting point of the deal.
But more importantly, the Clowes and Morrows and even the mythical Iginlas, while they are undoubtedly an upgrade over the Caron/Bourque/Pandaflo monster, aren't what the B's need to win another Cup.
More grinders, more cyclers, more streaky power forwards...bleh.
We need a guy with composure and good hands and a ridiculous ability to protect the puck and get to the spaces on the ice where goals happen. Jagr does that.
His hands are still sick. His timing and composure is something NONE of our forwards can match.
Yesterday, when Horton missed the stuff in and the puck spurted out to him, Nate collected the puck, spun around and rushed a shot straight into Reimer's stomach, even though none of the defenders had reacted or closed in on him yet. If that is Jagr, he pirouettes, comes back around, knows he has time and lifts the puck top corner over Reimer's shoulder. That's who Boston needs. The guy who scores that goal.
Jagr on the power play would be money. He doesn't fly down the ice anymore, but he would park his big mullet body in the middle of it all and live off rebounds and garbage putbacks. Jagr baby. Jagr.
I'm onboard with this. Jagr is the master at controlling puck and creating offence, an automatic future HOF'r. His current one-year deal for $4.5 mil makes it even more enticing, no strings attached. Jagr/Krejci/Chara together on the ice, magic.

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B's should play chicken here.

Take it right up to the deadline and let Calgary deal with the possibility of getting nothing for Iginla.
At that point the Kings would have offered Tyfolli and a second and have Iggy riding shotgun with Kopitar all the way to the Western Conf. Finals.

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If a lesser deal is what Calgary is currently asking for, why do you believe a trade hasn't already happened?


Edit: I'm not advocating that it's correct that Calgary should even be close to asking for that type of deal, I just happen to believe Calgary is out of their damn minds and until a deal like that is proposed, there isn't one to be made.

Calgary can't be so off base that they demand something so unrealistic; it has to have at least some reasoning behind it for the other team to accept. The Bruins wouldn't trade either Seguin or Hamilton for 19(?) games of Iginla in anyone's dreams!

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Porkchop says the Bruins offered Koko and a 2nd for Morrow. Hes probably wrong but if thats true Chiarelli deserves a swift kick in the balls.
If that were part of a package deal that included a time machine. . .

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Couldn't have said it any better. Jagr with Krejci would give Krejci a spark as well.
Krejci's hero is Jagr and I'd agree with this. He'd be wanting to show him what he can do. Might be wishful thinking but the asking price I don't think would be that high.

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03-24-2013, 07:11 PM
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This isn't the Jarome Iginla of 2004. They'll be lucky to get an A prospect + 1st.
That's why I thought too, but Brendan Morrow disagrees.

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At that point the Kings would have offered Tyfolli and a second and have Iggy riding shotgun with Kopitar all the way to the Western Conf. Finals.
I'm ok with that. Iginla would help the third line, but he isn't going to be the deciding factor for the Bruins. They have the horses to make a run if they play up to their ability.

I target someone else in the Kelly/Peverley mold who can play center or wing in case of an injury.

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if Haggerty rumor is true but this will go over real well with Khokhlachev

if true then Feaster knows that any deal already as Koko and the second on the scale

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B's should play chicken here.

Take it right up to the deadline and let Calgary deal with the possibility of getting nothing for Iginla.

This would be the best course of action after what Morrow brought in.

Feaster has to realize this is the crossroads, either trade Iginla and finally move on to the rebuild or keep him and go with the disillusion that you can re-sign him and possibly contend next year (Hint: they won't)

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if Haggerty rumor is true but this will go over real well with Khokhlachev

if true then Feaster knows that any deal already as Koko and the second on the scale
Koko and a second is a huge ripoff morrow let alone ignla. They would have to throw in something else besides a 35 year old on the decline forward.

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I'm ok with that. Iginla would help the third line, but he isn't going to be the deciding factor for the Bruins. They have the horses to make a run if they play up to their ability.

I target someone else in the Kelly/Peverley mold who can play center or wing in case of an injury.

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I dont like the rental stuff but Iginla likely would raise the level all over the place- the guy is an iconic figure and would be a jolt to this team

he would be a great addition but the starting price has already been established and if Subban is that highly thought of it would behoove Feaster to get Boston to move on him even if it meant adding this and that on both sides

Feaster is limited with only four options and maybe one or two (could be Boston) arent really that excited

I'm not excited at what Haggs reported and would try Clowe but with so few sellers and so many buyers it will get crazy- atleast with Iginla ony 4 teams are being allowed into the store and not all are probably that interested

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Koko and a second is a huge ripoff morrow let alone ignla. They would have to throw in something else besides a 35 year old on the decline forward.
that's not how the deadline works. It's Koko+1st easily for Iginla.

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That's why I thought too, but Brendan Morrow disagrees.
I'd think Iginla has more value than Morrow and if Haggs is correct that is even more than I thought he'd do- but he knows this team needs something and wants to protect the three guys he needs going forward and Koko is the only other prospect with high value

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