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03-29-2013, 01:23 PM
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Great, you know what means...

He's going to be traded to Pittsburgh for a Kordell Stewart jersey and a $20 play card at Dave & Busters....

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03-29-2013, 01:45 PM
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Wow, according to Staple, talks with Vis are going well and a deal could be done soon

https://twitter.com/StapeNewsday/sta...91378534608896
https://twitter.com/StapeNewsday/sta...91262474014720

Wonder if Snow told him to sign before the deadline if you want to stay.
What is it with these guys not wanting to come and then all of a sudden staying?

Hope he does sign for another year or two.

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03-29-2013, 02:05 PM
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I know nobody would really want this, but if that does happen I can see Streit coming back as a UFA too.
Want it. It's better to have TWO solid defensemen than one, as a rule, in my book.

Streit looked shaky, has improved and was an All Star. His game IS valuable, moreso than anyone on waivers. And I include Strait and Hickey, who both have been gems to some degree.

THAT SAID, if trading Streit gets us a top line forward, I'm game. Pull a Crossman-Ferraro deal and it's worth it.

If we deal Streit for picks, somebody beat Snow with a bag of fresh horse sh** in front of his family for me.

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03-29-2013, 02:15 PM
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What is it with these guys not wanting to come and then all of a sudden staying?

Hope he does sign for another year or two.
Amen to that. He is everything I hoped Streit would be, plus I don't think he sees himself as a Captain. He does his job. Now we can move Streit with a clean conscience.

I had said months ago that the only leverage the Isles had on him was tolling if and only if he wanted that one last big paycheck, which would be an NHL paycheck, not KHL paycheck. I thought that was in the back of his mind and it looks now like it was. I AM shocked he wants to do it here though. The locker room is devoid of any big names now (no big veteran egos). That might make the situation more comfortable. I hope if he does sign that one of the locals can get him to open up about his concerns about playing here.

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03-29-2013, 02:23 PM
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Hammer-AMac
Vis-????
Carkner-Strait

Really don't think we keep Streit if this goes through, but we have a lot of options. Hickey could easily slot in if he has performs well. And then you have Donovan, de Haan. Or trade to make room or upgrade? Nice problem to have all of a sudden.

EDIT: Worth noting that AMac makes close to the league min next year and then becomes an RFA. It's a really good trade chip for a team with a cap problem.


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03-29-2013, 02:39 PM
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This is awesome news! He has been great and although I was pissed at first, he's easily forgiven with how well he has played.

Hopefully it's 2 years.

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03-29-2013, 03:01 PM
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He would be so nice to thow it in everyones face....It would go along way in reputation of the Isles if he stays..

His heart is all in Slovan and LI wins him over....

That would be awsome....

I never even thought that talks of an extention would take place...

2 years 10 mil....or 2 years 9 mil

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03-29-2013, 03:03 PM
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Wouldn't that be something. I hope he stays

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03-29-2013, 03:18 PM
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id like to say im surprised, but this happens with a lot of guys who come here. They all rave about how they are treated by management(even though we rip them for being incompetent, and in most instances, rightfully so), and they love the area. I could see Viz wanting to stay and sign for 2 yrs so he can play in Brooklyn. Such a trendy area lately, i could see that being a selling point.

IF this happens, it really leaves ONE spot in our top 6. Doesnt mean someone like Carkner wont be traded if Griff/Donovan/CdH/Mayfield all make a push for a spot next year. You just cant afford to sign Viz more than 2 years, bc that blocks the kids from making the team at all and would make it rougher to trade him. Same with Streit. 2 years max.

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03-29-2013, 03:28 PM
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The only problem I'm seeing is if this team is already pretty weak Defensively what will change going into next year? Hamonic i think just had a off season but will we start the season with...
Streit,Strait,Hamonic,MacDonald,Visnovsky, and Carkner?

If we are resigning VIS i think we should trade Streit and whatever for a 2nd line center instead and bring in a shut down Dman via FA or maybe Donovan.

Thoughts?

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03-29-2013, 03:32 PM
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donovan only needs to earn his spot in camp. i think he will make it.

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The only problem I'm seeing is if this team is already pretty weak Defensively what will change going into next year? Hamonic i think just had a off season but will we start the season with...
Streit,Strait,Hamonic,MacDonald,Visnovsky, and Carkner?

If we are resigning VIS i think we should trade Streit and whatever for a 2nd line center instead and bring in a shut down Dman via FA or maybe Donovan.

Thoughts?
1) Exactly what free agent dman do you see us getting?
2) Do you really expect rookie Donavan to be better than Streit?
3) Why can't we re-sign Streit and bring in another dman? Move Carkener or MacDonald if you need to.

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03-29-2013, 03:44 PM
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Happy if Visnovsky signs, but I hope it means the end of Streit. can't have both of them on the team & expect to improve...this is of course presuming they wouldn't dead MacDonald or Strait.

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What is it with these guys not wanting to come and then all of a sudden staying?

Hope he does sign for another year or two.


No stress of playing in front 5k fans and he and his wife can make vacation plans for May.

2 years would be perfect.

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id like to say im surprised, but this happens with a lot of guys who come here. They all rave about how they are treated by management(even though we rip them for being incompetent, and in most instances, rightfully so), and they love the area. I could see Viz wanting to stay and sign for 2 yrs so he can play in Brooklyn. Such a trendy area lately, i could see that being a selling point.

IF this happens, it really leaves ONE spot in our top 6. Doesnt mean someone like Carkner wont be traded if Griff/Donovan/CdH/Mayfield all make a push for a spot next year. You just cant afford to sign Viz more than 2 years, bc that blocks the kids from making the team at all and would make it rougher to trade him. Same with Streit. 2 years max.

Respectfully disagree. I would give them up to 3 year deals. Viz and Streit are by far the 2 best defensemen the Isles have this season and hopefully will have for next season.


Right now I Rannk our defensmen...

Viz - would like him as a #2
Streit - would love him as a #3


Hamonic - not a great season to build on

AMac - hopefully just a down year



Strait
Carkner
Hickey
Finley

As of right now I don't think Strait, Carkner, Hickey, or Finley are guaranteed a spot next season. Hopefully they don't make it. Because that would mean we made some solid upgrades in the offseason.

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1) Exactly what free agent dman do you see us getting?
2) Do you really expect rookie Donavan to be better than Streit?
3) Why can't we re-sign Streit and bring in another dman? Move Carkener or MacDonald if you need to.
Not to be a wise arse but didn't you ask the same question as me?

My opinion was followed up by a "thoughts" question at the end.

I also understand what you are saying in terms of moving AMAC or Carkner but again you said "bring in another Dman" so i can throw it back at you with the same question..."Exactly what free agent dman do you see us getting?"

I'm not hating on Streit but if VIS can fill the roll and Streit could possibly help us get a 2nd line scoring center (I know we will need more then just him) maybe this is a good time to move him if the deal is right. Regardless I would call Edmonton or St.Louis and see if we could work out a deal.
I also understand moving your captain during a potential playoff run could hurt things as well.

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03-29-2013, 04:04 PM
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We can't block the kids? What ever happened to making them earn it?

Look, do you see Matt Donovan or Big Griffs upside as being less than Carkner, Strait, Hickey? If so, I don't want them here to begin with. If he forces his way onto the roster by outplaying those guys, that isn't a bad problem to have.... is it?

This is how you rebuild.....not by handing out roster spots in order of draft position, or age.

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Streit has two less points than Yandle, Pieterangelo, OEL and Timonen..... and he's tied with Edler and Goligoski. He wants to be here, I say we re-sign him. His D isn't bad enough to erase the offense he brings, and offense from the blueline has been a problem here since the days of KJ, Aucoin and Hamrlik.

Re-sign him and Vis, unless you can get a veteran top 6 forward that is under contract in return. Which you're not doing.

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Streit has two less points than Yandle, Pieterangelo, OEL and Timonen..... and he's tied with Edler and Goligoski. He wants to be here, I say we re-sign him. His D isn't bad enough to erase the offense he brings, and offense from the blueline has been a problem here since the days of KJ, Aucoin and Hamrlik.

Re-sign him and Vis, unless you can get a veteran top 6 forward that is under contract in return. Which you're not doing.
I guess at the end of the day we have to find a stay at home physical Dman but someone will have to lose their spot. Carkner is not that guy btw. I am truly befuddled at this point in terms of what to do. Maybe AMAC is the odd man out?

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Streit has two less points than Yandle, Pieterangelo, OEL and Timonen..... and he's tied with Edler and Goligoski. He wants to be here, I say we re-sign him. His D isn't bad enough to erase the offense he brings, and offense from the blueline has been a problem here since the days of KJ, Aucoin and Hamrlik.

Re-sign him and Vis, unless you can get a veteran top 6 forward that is under contract in return. Which you're not doing.
I would agree that this is true recently. However, for the entire first half of the season, his defense was really bad and his offensive contribution was awful too. I could deal with it if this was just a bad year, but it is his established pattern outside of the first year he played here. He has a really bad first half, then above average to good second half of the season. The one thing he is usually good for is the PP, so there is that, but if Vis comes on board and with Streit getting older and worse why keep him around when you can get value to use to trade for the solid blueliner that makes us forget him?

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I don't understand the Streit hate. Yes he was over played early int he year, but as a PP specialist and athird paring D-man Streit does his job and does it well. I would like to have him back

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Streit has two less points than Yandle, Pieterangelo, OEL and Timonen..... and he's tied with Edler and Goligoski. He wants to be here, I say we re-sign him. His D isn't bad enough to erase the offense he brings, and offense from the blueline has been a problem here since the days of KJ, Aucoin and Hamrlik.

Re-sign him and Vis, unless you can get a veteran top 6 forward that is under contract in return. Which you're not doing.
But this is the Islanders we're talking about. Granted they've done a much better job just letting their kids play at appropriate levels this year, but it wouldn't shock me 1 bit to see Reinhart rushed here next year.

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1) Exactly what free agent dman do you see us getting?
2) Do you really expect rookie Donavan to be better than Streit?
3) Why can't we re-sign Streit and bring in another dman? Move Carkener or MacDonald if you need to.
Exactly my thoughts. The way to improve the D isn't to switch out the two best D-Men and hope that rookies fill the void. It's to keep the ebst of what we have, and hope the prospects beat out the back-end guys.

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I don't understand the Streit hate. Yes he was over played early int he year, but as a PP specialist and athird paring D-man Streit does his job and does it well. I would like to have him back
If he's going to be brought back as a PP specialist & 3rd pair Dman, then sure, bring him back, Package Amac for something, and go and get a #1 or 2. somewhere.

But to bring him back as a 2nd or even top pair Dman is just asking for another lousy defensive year.

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I don't understand the Streit hate. Yes he was over played early int he year, but as a PP specialist and athird paring D-man Streit does his job and does it well. I would like to have him back
I think the problem people have with Streit is that he's blocking out JT from the captaincy. If we resign him it should include handing over the C and I really don't think Streit would stand in the way of that. The only problem I have is coming back with the exact same D next season and expecting better or more like hoping for better. We need another big top pairing shutdown D to play with Hammer. Amac is not a top pairing D-man. From what i saw of Strait in those first 15 games if the D remains the same I wouldn't be suprised to see him move into Amac's spot next season. He's plays pretty much the same game but has a little more jam to his game. Amac doesn't hit anyone and Vis & Streit are not a shutdown D-men!

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