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03-25-2013, 06:19 PM
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Bruins play a much more timid game against Toronto.

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03-25-2013, 06:21 PM
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Bruins play a much more timid game against Toronto.
Yet, they're dominating the play.

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03-25-2013, 06:22 PM
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Actually almost 50M for 9 players:

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Staal, Eric $8,250,000
Semin, Alexander $7,000,000
Staal, Jordan $6,000,000
Skinner, Jeff $5,725,000
Ruutu, Tuomo $4,750,000
Jokinen, Jussi $3,000,000

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Pitkanen, Joni $4,500,000
Gleason, Tim $4,000,000

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Ward, Cam $6,300,000

Total: $49,525,000

I expect they try to trade Jokinen which is why I did not put him in, that salary for a 3rd liner in their current cap structure does not work.

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03-25-2013, 06:23 PM
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It's not a typo.

E. Staal - 8.25 M
Semin - 7 M
J. Staal - 6 M
Skinner - 5.725 M
Ruutu - 4.75 M
Pitkanen - 4.5 M
Gleason - 4 M
Ward - 6.3 M

As long as Gauthier & Gainey are still working in the NHL, Rutherford has no problems.

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03-25-2013, 06:24 PM
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Yet, they're dominating the play.
No they aren't.

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03-25-2013, 06:27 PM
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Bruins play a much more timid game against Toronto.
I would categorize it as a much more "disciplined" and "effective" game. Which makes them better. Our guys seem to be able to get under their skin, maybe from past history, maybe something else, but either way the Habs draw the B's ire, and that can work for or against us, depending to some significant degree on how our team handles it. It isn't just bigness and toughness. There is more to it than just that.

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03-25-2013, 06:28 PM
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It's not a typo.

E. Staal - 8.25 M
Semin - 7 M
J. Staal - 6 M
Skinner - 5.725 M
Ruutu - 4.75 M
Pitkanen - 4.5 M
Gleason - 4 M
Ward - 6.3 M
The players are pretty young and it fills out the team. Tlusty, McBain, Faulk are a combined 4.3M.

Tlusty - E. Staal - Semin
Ruutu - J. Staal - Skinner

Pitkanen - Faulk
Gleason - McBain

Ward

~10M to fill out bottom 6 and bottom pairing D. They'll probably trade Jokinen in the off season.

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03-25-2013, 06:38 PM
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I would categorize it as a much more "disciplined" and "effective" game. Which makes them better. Our guys seem to be able to get under their skin, maybe from past history, maybe something else, but either way the Habs draw the B's ire, and that can work for or against us, depending to some significant degree on how our team handles it. It isn't just bigness and toughness. There is more to it than just that.
That's the Bruins game, they just choose not to do it against the Leafs. No idea why...

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03-25-2013, 06:39 PM
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Bruins don't thug it up against the Leafs like they do it with Habs...wonder why?

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03-25-2013, 06:41 PM
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Bruins don't thug it up against the Leafs like they do it with Habs...wonder why?
Yeah, i wonder why?

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03-25-2013, 06:49 PM
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Claude Julien is a disgusting chinless mess.

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03-25-2013, 06:50 PM
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Has Boston been scaring anyone lately? The team itself has been very beatable, Lucic hasn't fought in a month regardless of how tough the opposition is. Lucic and Chara seem more concerned with diving than being tough nowadays; maybe they are trying out for the Habs.

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Claude Julien is a disgusting chinless mess.
On the other hand, Julien scares me.

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03-25-2013, 06:51 PM
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Claude Julien is a disgusting chinless mess.
He's got a few too many to say he has none.

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03-25-2013, 06:52 PM
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I look at these contracts and wonder why the hell we even had a lockout in the first place.

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03-25-2013, 06:53 PM
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He's got a few too many to say he has none.
He looks like that guy from Men in Black one who ate another man and lived in his skin or something. I dunno, Im' durnk.

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Ottawa continues to impress without number 1 center, D, and goalie.

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03-25-2013, 06:55 PM
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I look at these contracts and wonder why the hell we even had a lockout in the first place.
Blame the players like all of you did during the lockout.

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03-25-2013, 07:00 PM
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In other news, Kovalev is already playing with Habs alumni in exhibition games.

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03-25-2013, 07:02 PM
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Blame the players like all of you did during the lockout.
Some people were blaming the players because they said no matter what they'll end up getting their cash anyways. Surprise surprise, players are getting the same big dollars. The only difference is that you can't do those 12year deals, so instead of giving Semin a 7-8year front loaded deal with a decent cap hit, you're stuck signing him to a shorter term with a higher cap. But in the end, players are getting paid, as they were always going to be.

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Blame the players like all of you did during the lockout.
I always blamed both sides. But the players made out pretty well, no?

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03-25-2013, 07:03 PM
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Boston needs to fire Julien if they want to reignite that team. As a player his whining in press conferences would embarrass me. I don't remember him being like that when he was in Montreal. Maybe its the water in Boston... or the tea

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03-25-2013, 07:07 PM
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haha. Gardiner was pretty awesome there.

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03-25-2013, 07:12 PM
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Some people were blaming the players because they said no matter what they'll end up getting their cash anyways. Surprise surprise, players are getting the same big dollars. The only difference is that you can't do those 12year deals, so instead of giving Semin a 7-8year front loaded deal with a decent cap hit, you're stuck signing him to a shorter term with a higher cap. But in the end, players are getting paid, as they were always going to be.
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I always blamed both sides. But the players made out pretty well, no?
The players "made out" far less then they would have on the open market. Supposedly the league's revenues are higher than ever before, the owners are making out like bandits and they dicked around the fans for half a year on top of that. It's shameful.

Semin getting 7m a year before taxes during his short playing career is not analogous to an owner making millions on millions sitting on his ass and getting taxed on capital gains.

edit: The sheer fact that 80% of the franchies in the league are so healthy and so strong makes their sheer ownership be a worthwhile asset. You get massive loans against the teams (like the Glazers did against Man United, or Gillette against Liverpool or Molson against the Habs) at very very low interest rates, it's like getting free money for them.

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