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03-21-2013, 02:26 PM
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Guys, I'm creating a H2H 12 team Yahoo fantasy league. I will post the league info soon, but when is a good time for most of you who are interested to hold the draft at?

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I'd like to join and as long as the draft isn't Friday or Saturday I can make it

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ESPN put out another 100 players on their top 500 list (#s 400 to 301)

The Blue Jays (last year's rank in brackets):

389) Emilio Bonifacio (up from 412)
381) Maicer Izturis (down from 341)
367) Adam Lind (down from 289)
361) J.P. Arencibia (down from 238)
321) Sergio Santos (down from 172)
302) Colby Rasmus (down from 202)

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/90...13-nos-301-400

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ESPN put out another 100 players on their top 500 list (#s 400 to 301)

The Blue Jays (last year's rank in brackets):

389) Emilio Bonifacio (up from 412)
381) Maicer Izturis (down from 341)
367) Adam Lind (down from 289)
361) J.P. Arencibia (down from 238)
321) Sergio Santos (down from 172)
302) Colby Rasmus (down from 202)

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/90...13-nos-301-400
any predictions on how many Jays could be in the top 100?

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any predictions on how many Jays could be in the top 100?
Bautista, Reyes, Encarnacion, Dickey, Melky, Morrow should be locks IMO.

By the end of the year, Lawrie and J.Johnson will be in there as well.

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03-21-2013, 05:00 PM
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I don't think Melky is in the top 100.

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Wow Santos , Rasmus, and JPA all went down far on the list.

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Bautista, Reyes, Encarnacion, Dickey, Melky, Morrow should be locks IMO.

By the end of the year, Lawrie and J.Johnson will be in there as well.
I'm not sure about Melky being a lock. Although he had a great half of a season, I think there are a lot of doubters out there.

As for the rest of them, I would have to agree that they should be there.

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Wow Santos , Rasmus, and JPA all went down far on the list.
Santos hasn't pitched in almost an entire year, Rasmus and JP have struggled with consistency. Makes sense to me.

And yeah, Melky is probably out of the top 100. JJ and Lawrie have a chance to be there.

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I guess I believe Melky is a better batter than most of you. Had him in fantasy last year, and he was outstanding before the suspension.

And although I hate cheating, I don't see Melky's ability to hit for high average as a product of steroids. It's not a crazy power surge we saw, and it's not even a crazy amount of 2Bs and 3Bs he had last year. The roids probably gave him somewhat of a boost, but roids don't increase your hand-eye coordination, patience at the plate, and ability to control your contact. So I don't expect that much of a drop-off from him this year.

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Wow Santos , Rasmus, and JPA all went down far on the list.
They all had significant injuries this past year. Also Rasmus blew chunks and arencibia did nothing g to warrant moving up either

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romero is totally lost

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It's not that I don't think he's a good player, it's that there's so many questions around him and such that they'll keep him out of the top 100.

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DUNEDIN, Fla. – It was another rough outing for Ricky Romero.

The Toronto Blue Jays’ left-hander faced 18 batters in a minor-league game. He logged seven outs. He allowed five hits and four runs. He walked five and struck out none. Only 29 of his 64 pitches were strikes.


No way he starts the season in Toronto. Poor guy. Wonder what happened. He dropped off the earth.

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DUNEDIN, Fla. – It was another rough outing for Ricky Romero.

The Toronto Blue Jays’ left-hander faced 18 batters in a minor-league game. He logged seven outs. He allowed five hits and four runs. He walked five and struck out none. Only 29 of his 64 pitches were strikes.


No way he starts the season in Toronto. Poor guy. Wonder what happened. He dropped off the earth.


Stop reading too much into spring training. In 11.0 IP last spring Ricky had a 0.00 ERA, and we all saw how that turned out. In 2011, his spring ERA was 7.91 in 19.1 innings, and he was an all-star that year.

Spring training stats have no correlation with what kind of a season a player is going to have. Stop stressing!

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Stop reading too much into spring training. In 11.0 IP last spring Ricky had a 0.00 ERA, and we all saw how that turned out. In 2011, his spring ERA was 7.91 in 19.1 innings, and he was an all-star that year.

Spring training stats have no correlation with what kind of a season a player is going to have. Stop stressing!
It's March 21st and Ricky Romero is making mechanical adjustments. He won't be ready for April 6th.

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Stop reading too much into spring training. In 11.0 IP last spring Ricky had a 0.00 ERA, and we all saw how that turned out. In 2011, his spring ERA was 7.91 in 19.1 innings, and he was an all-star that year.

Spring training stats have no correlation with what kind of a season a player is going to have. Stop stressing!
No way. His stats are god awful. And have been for a long time.

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DUNEDIN, Fla. – It was another rough outing for Ricky Romero.

The Toronto Blue Jays’ left-hander faced 18 batters in a minor-league game. He logged seven outs. He allowed five hits and four runs. He walked five and struck out none. Only 29 of his 64 pitches were strikes.


No way he starts the season in Toronto. Poor guy. Wonder what happened. He dropped off the earth.
No way he doesn't start with the Jays. Short leash sure but he's definitely starting this season as the number five.

All the Blue Jays media guys are in Dunedin right now and not a single one thinks Romero will not be the number five guy.

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Just to give you folks a rough idea of how some of the best pitchers are doing in spring training:

Verlander: 4.05 ERA in 13.1 IP
Kershaw: 3.79 ERA in 19.0 IP
Strasburg: 4.66 ERA in 19.1 IP
Cliff Lee: 5.56 ERA in 11.1 IP
Halladay: 6.75 ERA in 12.0 IP
Cain: 3.60 ERA in 15.0 IP

These are some of the game's most elite pitchers, and I don't see a single impressive line there.

The top 5 pitchers in spring training right now are: Lester, Maurer, Teheran, Francis, Cobb. Who? Exactly. Outside of Lester and Francis (who is washed up), I haven't heard of any of those guys.

Pitchers try new things, not caring for ERA. Sometimes they will go out and maybe work on one pitch all day, regardless of how they get hit, just to get that pitch going again. ST is not about stats, it's like judging a player based on how good their form looks during the pre-game stretch.

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No way. His stats are god awful. And have been for a long time.
You just completely disregarded how meaningless I just proved ST stats to be in the post you quoted.

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Cobb is a pretty well known tb pitching prospect if I'm not mistaken. And i believe Julio teheran is even more highly regarded than Cobb.

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Just to give you folks a rough idea of how some of the best pitchers are doing in spring training:

Verlander: 4.05 ERA in 13.1 IP
Kershaw: 3.79 ERA in 19.0 IP
Strasburg: 4.66 ERA in 19.1 IP
Cliff Lee: 5.56 ERA in 11.1 IP
Halladay: 6.75 ERA in 12.0 IP
Cain: 3.60 ERA in 15.0 IP

These are some of the game's most elite pitchers, and I don't see a single impressive line there.

The top 5 pitchers in spring training right now are: Lester, Maurer, Teheran, Francis, Cobb. Who? Exactly. Outside of Lester and Francis (who is washed up), I haven't heard of any of those guys.

Pitchers try new things, not caring for ERA. Sometimes they will go out and maybe work on one pitch all day, regardless of how they get hit, just to get that pitch going again. ST is not about stats, it's like judging a player based on how good their form looks during the pre-game stretch.

Im not here to argue just an opinion. Based on his past year and this spring his numbers are awful. Worst of all his control.

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Poor Romero , really good pitcher to getting pulled in a minor league game . Hopefully he gets his grasp back

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Pitchers try new things, not caring for ERA. Sometimes they will go out and maybe work on one pitch all day, regardless of how they get hit, just to get that pitch going again. ST is not about stats, it's like judging a player based on how good their form looks during the pre-game stretch.

But Romero is not doing those things. He's making big mechanical adjustments, mid ST, as a result of his terrible walk rate heretofore. What about that doesn't worry you? This isn't Roy Halladay going out there and pumping 60 cutters in a row, this is a struggling pitcher changing the way he pitches. It's not good.

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But Romero is not doing those things. He's making big mechanical adjustments, mid ST, as a result of his terrible walk rate heretofore. What about that doesn't worry you? This isn't Roy Halladay going out there and pumping 60 cutters in a row, this is a struggling pitcher changing the way he pitches. It's not good.
I've learned to take ST with a grain of salt. I will judge Ricky Romero in April 6th against the red sox. No sooner.

And even if he struggles, I give him 2-3 more starts before calling for his head and replacing him with Happ.

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