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03-20-2013, 09:17 AM
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Only 6 points out of 6th!

6th!
that just seems crazy to me. How is that possible?

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03-20-2013, 09:23 AM
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Good:
-Foligno, Porter, Flynn... This line has been awesome. Foligno has looked like an entirely different player when matched up with those two guys.
-Steve Ott. First line minutes and it showed that his teammates helped him out quite a bit. Hodgson is magic with the puck!
-Ville Leino. He's actually one of the better hockey players on the team all in all.
-Jhonas Enroth. He's looked like a good NHL goalie his last few starts. And if it wasn't for the cramps he had the one game, he'd be grading out even better.
-Pysyk. He has extremely fast hands. I watched one exchange with the puck where he knocked it out of the air with his stick, brought the stick back down to the ice while still controlling the puck with a Canadien poking at it... He maintained control and dumped it out. He's playing like one of our better defenders. The AHL guys are outperforming a good number of our NHL guys.

Bad:
-We have a habit of making a great game look bad. We had several solid performances, but when push came to shove, two goals sent us to OT in the third period. Our defense got lazy.
-Hodgson defensively. Still has to learn, but the cross ice pass to Pominville was a horrendous decision. And the pass by Gallagher on the goal could have been disrupted.

Ugly:
-The AHL guys are outperforming a good number of our NHL guys.
I have like the Foligno/Porter/Flynn line as well, but I thought they struggled a bit last night. I guess overall they were OK but didn't think they got much accomplished. I think Porter has been struggling the last few games.

And yes, Hodgson is absolutely a liability defensively. He really needs to work on that end of the rink.

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03-20-2013, 09:29 AM
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I have like the Foligno/Porter/Flynn line as well, but I thought they struggled a bit last night. I guess overall they were OK but didn't think they got much accomplished. I think Porter has been struggling the last few games.

And yes, Hodgson is absolutely a liability defensively. He really needs to work on that end of the rink.
I agree with them being "okay" last night. But they are so active. They fly around the ice and pressure the opponent night in and night out. It certainly wasn't their best night, but still... As a line they continue to be solid.

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03-20-2013, 09:34 AM
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and if that shot with 18 seconds left last night went in... you would've considered it a goal that no one would've stopped (if Miller was playing)...

goalies step up and make big saves... Miller gets paid big bucks... stop making excuses for him

Being a bottom feeder has HUGE bearing on the issue. The reason you "come back with your starter" right away... is because its part of a plan that involves making the playoffs/contending... you dont want to upset that apple cart.

give ONE good reason why "coming back with your starter" makes any difference at all when you are a bottom feeder?
Are you worried about a starter controversy? No
Are you worried about the mental impact on your starter? No
Who's making excuses for Miller? There is no need to do that. If he lets in a bad goal, or plays poorly, I'll say so. Unlike you, I don't have a blazing agenda. I'm trying to put the issue into more perspective for you.

As for putting the starter back in, as dim as things are for the team, the team has not given up yet (Unlike some of the fans). You keep competing. Enroth's job on this team is to give Miller a rest. He's finally had a couple of good starts, so it looks as if he can finally start doing that again. Be happy about that, but don't yank Miller because the team can't play defense in front of him. Yank him if he plays poorly.

And no, I would have no problem pulling Miller if he played poorly.

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03-20-2013, 09:39 AM
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Who's making excuses for Miller? There is no need to do that. If he lets in a bad goal, or plays poorly, I'll say so. Unlike you, I don't have a blazing agenda. I'm trying to put the issue into more perspective for you.

As for putting the starter back in, as dim as things are for the team, the team has not given up yet (Unlike some of the fans). You keep competing. Enroth's job on this team is to give Miller a rest. He's finally had a couple of good starts, so it looks as if he can finally start doing that again. Be happy about that, but don't yank Miller because the team can't play defense in front of him. Yank him if he plays poorly.

And no, I would have no problem pulling Miller if he played poorly.
oh look, it's the return of "you're being too mean to my favorite players so you have an agenda"

If your intention was to bring perspective, you failed monumentally

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03-20-2013, 09:40 AM
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And no, I would have no problem pulling Miller if he played poorly.
You almost seem completely unaware that the entire reason Enroth started last night was because Miller was playing poorly

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03-20-2013, 09:43 AM
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You almost seem completely unaware that the entire reason Enroth started last night was because Miller was playing poorly
Do you have a quote from Ron Ron that says this? Otherwise it's 100% speculation.

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As for putting the starter back in, as dim as things are for the team, the team has not given up yet (Unlike some of the fans). You keep competing. Enroth's job on this team is to give Miller a rest. He's finally had a couple of good starts, so it looks as if he can finally start doing that again. Be happy about that, but don't yank Miller because the team can't play defense in front of him. Yank him if he plays poorly.
So if your starter has been playing poorly (as evidenced by S%), and your back up has done an excellent job recently (as evidenced by S%)... you think going back to the guy playing poorly because he's the "Starter"... is actually something a team desperately trying to stay afloat, not give up, and keep competing.... that's what they do? Go back to the guy playing poorly, because he's been labeled the starter?



Seems like a team as desperate as the Sabres, would go with the hot hand.


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Do you have a quote from Ron Ron that says this? Otherwise it's 100% speculation.
so you speculatively disagree

got it

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03-20-2013, 09:52 AM
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so you speculatively disagree

got it
You made a statement that the factual reason Enroth started was because of Miller's poor play.

I'm asking you to prove that statement by providing a quote from someone inside the organization who would KNOW that information.

Otherwise, you're guessing.

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You made a statement that the factual reason Enroth started was because of Miller's poor play.

I'm asking you to prove that statement by providing a quote from someone inside the organization who would KNOW that information.

Otherwise, you're guessing.

deductive reasoning

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03-20-2013, 09:57 AM
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When the back up goalie plays twice in 4 games... it's because the starter is playing poorly

is it amateur day around here?

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03-20-2013, 10:46 AM
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It's a shame Pysyk gets sent back when Rej is ready, because that's a pairing that I'd really, really like to see together.

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03-20-2013, 10:58 AM
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It's a shame Pysyk gets sent back when Rej is ready, because that's a pairing that I'd really, really like to see together.
There will be roster space soon enough -- or at least there better be -- for him to get another sniff this season.

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03-20-2013, 10:59 AM
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It's a shame Pysyk gets sent back when Rej is ready, because that's a pairing that I'd really, really like to see together.
If Regehr is dealt at the deadline, Pysyk will most likely be here the remainder of the season.

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03-20-2013, 11:30 AM
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deductive reasoning
Or unproven assumptions.

Especially since I believe the one start was because Miller was sick? I could be remembering starts wrong.

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03-20-2013, 11:33 AM
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If Regehr is dealt at the deadline, Pysyk will most likely be here the remainder of the season.
Yea, I would agree. Would be nice to see that much more of Pysyk too.

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03-20-2013, 11:37 AM
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Or unproven assumptions.

Especially since I believe the one start was because Miller was sick? I could be remembering starts wrong.
Yep. Sinus infection. Which is why Enroth started the Rangers game.

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Or unproven assumptions.

Especially since I believe the one start was because Miller was sick? I could be remembering starts wrong.
yup... it pretty much goes like this
3/5 - Miller sucked
3/7 - Miller was sick/Enroth started and was very good
3/10 - Miller sucked
3/12 - Enroth started because Miller sucked
3/16 - Miller sucked
3/17 - Miller sucked
3/19 - Enroth started because Miller sucked

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03-20-2013, 11:41 AM
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Watch the Sabres win their next 5 games and Regier decides to keep the team together because they're only 2 points out of 8th or something

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yup... it pretty much goes like this
3/5 - Miller sucked
3/7 - Miller was sick/Enroth started and was very good
3/10 - Miller sucked
3/12 - Enroth started because Miller sucked
3/16 - Miller sucked
3/17 - Miller sucked
3/19 - Enroth started because Miller sucked

False. The 3/12 start was Miller's sinus infection.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ryan...inus+infection

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False. The 3/12 start was Miller's sinus infection.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ryan...inus+infection
sorry... corrected...


3/5 - Miller sucked
3/7 - Enroth started standard back up start and was very good
3/10 - Miller sucked
3/12 - Enroth started because Miller was sick
3/16 - Miller sucked
3/17 - Miller sucked
3/19 - Enroth started because Miller sucked

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It's a shame Pysyk gets sent back when Rej is ready, because that's a pairing that I'd really, really like to see together.
I thought with Brennan and Grigs gone we have enough room for Pysysk to stay?

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03-20-2013, 12:05 PM
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I thought with Brennan and Grigs gone we have enough room for Pysysk to stay?
Yes there's room, but I also believe Pysyk could fall under the "emergency recall" designation (ie. we had less than six healthy D, hence the "emergency" recall, reassigned once there are six again) if they chose to make that distinction with his recall.

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03-20-2013, 12:28 PM
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sorry... corrected...


3/5 - Miller sucked
3/7 - Enroth started standard back up start and was very good
3/10 - Miller sucked
3/12 - Enroth started because Miller was sick
3/16 - Miller sucked
3/17 - Miller sucked
3/19 - Enroth started because Miller sucked
All you're proving here Jame is that you have an agenda, and an extremely biased opinion. It's ok, you can admit it. I'm done on this one though.

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