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The Importance of the Illusion of Discipline

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03-22-2013, 03:23 PM
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The Importance of the Illusion of Discipline

Ok, I'm a Canuck fan and will find it laughable if Edler gets suspended for the hit on Smith. So I'm sure some people will think it's due to this that I'm bringing it up but I'm interested in what others think about the following.

Today we learned that Alex Edler will face a phone hearing today while Rick Nash does not. A lot of the posts in the Nash-Kopecky headshot thread find this decision bemusing.

Should the NHL now adopt that every hit to the head will require a phone hearing with the league? Even if the hit is accidental and no injury was on the play, the player will still have to explain how the hit happened. That way, if a player keeps on having hearings with the league, it will become more apparent that a player may not be targeting the head accidentally and it becomes easier for the league to pinpoint which players it needs to take supplementary discipline against.

If this was adopted, then Rick Nash would have a hearing with the league and even if there was no supplementary discipline, at least there was the illusion that Nash could have potentially been suspended which would have soften some of the posters reactions.

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Edler should be suspended at least 1 game, he tackled a goalie pretty much.

However Nash should be suspended 3-4 games, his hit was disgusting and dirty. The inconsistency shown by Shanahan is appalling. Truly is disgusting.

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I thought we were over this when Colin Campbell got canned. Guess not.

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I thought we were over this when Colin Campbell got canned. Guess not.
Heh, I thought the same thing. I expected big things from Shanny. While being better than Campbell, Shanny has made quite a few questionable decisions that are Campbell-esque.

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Ok, I'm a Canuck fan and will find it laughable if Edler gets suspended for the hit on Smith. So I'm sure some people will think it's due to this that I'm bringing it up but I'm interested in what others think about the following.

Today we learned that Alex Edler will face a phone hearing today while Rick Nash does not. A lot of the posts in the Nash-Kopecky headshot thread find this decision bemusing.

Should the NHL now adopt that every hit to the head will require a phone hearing with the league? Even if the hit is accidental and no injury was on the play, the player will still have to explain how the hit happened. That way, if a player keeps on having hearings with the league, it will become more apparent that a player may not be targeting the head accidentally and it becomes easier for the league to pinpoint which players it needs to take supplementary discipline against.

If this was adopted, then Rick Nash would have a hearing with the league and even if there was no supplementary discipline, at least there was the illusion that Nash could have potentially been suspended which would have soften some of the posters reactions.
Nash got the Kronwal treatment, simple as that.

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Nash got the Kronwal treatment, simple as that.
Edlers going to get a fine that's it


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I think the big problem is that if you get a hearing your going to be suspended. And how much time does it take to have a phone hearing and make the call. Even if there is nothing extra done. It does look better. But in high profile cases such as this involving a big name player I think they need to do a video explaining why they didn't feel it came to the level of a suspension. I know I heard that on the radio today analysts asking for it so they could better explain it to fans.
So yes I do think it is important to have the appearance of impropriety.

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If the NHL wanted the standard of discipline to change, then it would have by now. Get used to this - it's not going to change anytime soon.

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If the NHL wanted the standard of discipline to change, then it would have by now. Get used to this - it's not going to change anytime soon.
Shanny cant be taken seriously after he gave out a 5 game suspension for an incident that cost a franchise a cup.

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Shanny cant be taken seriously after he gave out a 5 game suspension for an incident that cost a franchise a cup.
Which incident was that?

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The individual providing this type of discipline and even overseeing the referees should not be responsible to the NHL during their terms.

The idea of impartiality is hardly a new one and yet sports leagues across the world don't seem to understand this point.

With social media, electronic information and increased scrutiny, it is pretty clear that these leagues have got major issues no different than you would find in any organization in the world (otherwise known as corruption and office politics). Why they think they can do this type of supervision in-house is mind boggling.

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To the posters suggesting that they release a video explaining why someone wasn't suspended.

Do you really think the NHL intends to release a video that states "Rick Nash is a star player and as such, will not be suspended as per subsection 48(2.1)(b)"?

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