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03-26-2013, 09:27 AM
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Getting rid of Boyle & Pyatt and their 3+ million combined cap hit for next season is priority #1. Those guys are utterly useless. Does anyone like me now get a general feeling of disdain whenever they see Boyle on the ice?

I'd roll with Newbury as 4th line center and either groom Miller as 3C or find one on the market and send Miller to Hartford.

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03-26-2013, 09:28 AM
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Corpsman, so my Marines called me Doc... Battlefield medicine minus the degree. Plugged a few holes... I wasn't aware of the blood pooling however in his eye...

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03-26-2013, 09:29 AM
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Was pretty much going to post this. This D has looked ugly without him. The Rangers have a good D-core individually but it seems like when one of the top-4 go down and someone else has a bad game or stretch, everything falls apart.
Girardi has taken the biggest step back this year. He looks nothing like the all-star he was last season.

Even McDonagh, the golden child, has taken a bit of a step back. Hes lost some consistency this season.

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03-26-2013, 09:31 AM
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Good line discussing Iginla

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Chicago? See: Pittsburgh. The Hawks have the luxury of Patrick Kane and Marian Hossa as their top two right wingers. So where do you slot a Jarome Iginla in? On the left side? Difficult to see him switching from Republican to Democrat this late in the game.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/touch/s...ml?rel=8150805

Did the Rangers have this discussion when they were pursuing Nash? Three right wingers.

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03-26-2013, 09:34 AM
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Its possible that Sather saw Nash as a left winger, and Tortorella just decided that he was better on the right, and was too valuable to play on a weaker side.

That said, Nash is closer to himself on the left than Gaborik is.

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03-26-2013, 09:36 AM
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Corpsman, so my Marines called me Doc... Battlefield medicine minus the degree. Plugged a few holes... I wasn't aware of the blood pooling however in his eye...
Appreciate your service. However, that doesn't mean you can diagnose guys via 3rd party info. Just trying to keep the information legitimate around here.

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03-26-2013, 10:16 AM
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03-26-2013, 10:19 AM
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Jussi Jokinen was waived, should definitely file a claim

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Hearing Jokinen, Wallace to go on waivers at noon.
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Canes looking to dump $3M in salary and cap hit for next season with Jokinen. Didn't someone propose Stepan for Jokinen earlier in the season?

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03-26-2013, 10:22 AM
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Canes looking to dump $3M in salary and cap hit for next season with Jokinen. Didn't someone propose Stepan for Jokinen earlier in the season?



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I would hope the Rangers could enter into trade discussions ASAP and try a Pyatt for Jokinen swap.

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03-26-2013, 10:26 AM
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I would hope the Rangers could enter into trade discussions ASAP and try a Pyatt for Jokinen swap.
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03-26-2013, 10:27 AM
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Overpaid while underperforming. He'd fit right in.

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03-26-2013, 10:35 AM
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I would hope the Rangers could enter into trade discussions ASAP and try a Pyatt for Jokinen swap.

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There's no way J. Jokinen gets to us via waiver, but I'd be fine with Pyatt for Jokinen straight up. Pyatt has been an utter failure. He doesn't fight, can't score, and is slower than Brad. His only saving grace is that he's good along the boards but it's not like his line has been producing down low anyway so that's a wash. Jokinen with a change of scenery is a MUCH better option for the 3rd line and he can play C if need be. If we're going to have a guy that can't fight or bang bodies then you might as well have a Jokinen type that can create a bit of offense. Not to mention he's golden in the shootout.


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Jussi is an upgrade over Pyatt, who brings nothing but slow skating and thousand mile stare...

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03-26-2013, 10:37 AM
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Overpaid while underperforming. He'd fit right in.
He is still a skilled player, normally good for 40-50 points plus a very good shoot-out player. Considering the dearth of talent in the bottom-6, the Rangers should try and trade away a contract that has more than just this season left and take on Jokinen.

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03-26-2013, 10:39 AM
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I'm getting a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach about this team. I really thought this was the year, bringing in Nash. I had very high hopes for this team. A 1 or 4 finish in the conference, and a solid run in the post-season. I was naive in thinking that Torts wold mold his game to his new team though. So many new faces trying to run a system that just does not fit them.

I'm getting that feeling that the Rangers are going to drop the next three. I want nothing more than to be wrong, really. You may not be getting that vibe from my posts these days, but I'm here to watch the Rangers win, I love when they win and I hate when they lose, like the rest of you.

Is it in the cards this season though? Truly, if we evaluate what the Rangers are, and what they're up against? It's a scary thought. Barely holding on to 8th right now. Can't imagine a finish higher than 6th. Sixth would really be the ideal finish, draw the winner of the SE and we win a playoff round before having to face the Pens in the conference semis. Lundqvist gets hot, Fleury goes cold, and who knows what will happen? Is it really wise to put the whole season on that thought process though? To ship young talent for a rental for that dream? I don't think so.

If I'm Sather and Gorton right now, the next three games tell the story of the season. Must win tonight in Philadelphia. If the Rangers lose tonight, they need to show something in the two games that follow in Kanata and in Montreal.

Thing is though, right now I have no confidence. To inspire anything from me for this team and this coach I want to see 5 out of 6 points in this stretch coming up. Realistically though? I'm expecting 1, maybe 2, perhaps even 0!

Four or more points in the next three, and let's go for it (judging by teams play of course, as well). Less than four, and let's not "pack it in" but "rebuild" the team wisely.

Cut the dead weight. See ya later to Pyatt and Boyle to start. Do what we can to get a first rounder coming our way. Get guys like Zuccarello and Fasth into the lineup and begin building for next season where Zuccarello should be a full-time guy, and Fast should be battling for a full-time spot in camp. It's not like the Rangers are far away from making a huge push.

Last year's first place finish was an anomaly of Torts's tenure here, built off heroic performance after heroic performance from a Vezina goalie and a full team that bought into Torts's system. That team is gone. Torts is stuck in his ways and not moving on. He needs to be the first one to go.

I don't want the Rangers to be exploring trades on Lundqvist in three years so he can go somewhere to find a way to finally get the cup he deserves. And we're all stuck looking back on these years as the "Tortorella dark ages" and wasting the back-end of Lundqvist's prime years.

Imagine a roster of...

(young LW acquired in draft day deal for Gaborik) - Stepan - Nash
Kreider - Richards (oy) - Callahan
Fast - Miller - Zuccarello
Haley - Yogan (Or FA Signing) - Powe

...under a new coach who doesn't hamper offensive creativity.

TL;DR - Cut dead weight. Fire Torts. Instill youth into the lineup and let them all get comfortable under a new coach before next season starts. This team isn't far away. The window on Lundqvist is running out.

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03-26-2013, 10:40 AM
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Jussi Jokinen on waivers, Derek Stepan producing at a solid pace. I love it.

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03-26-2013, 10:41 AM
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everyone is saying Dan Boyle but I bet Sather trades for Cory Sarich.... Rangers can use an upgrade in the defensive dman department..


i can see something like Sarich + Glencross to NYR
Boyle, Thomas, Bourque and 3rd (FLA) to Flames



Rangers should claim Kaspars Daugavins and Jussi Jokinen and waive Pyatt

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Canes looking to dump $3M in salary and cap hit for next season with Jokinen. Didn't someone propose Stepan for Jokinen earlier in the season?



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I knew you had a sense of humor RB. Yes, yes there was a guy who proposed that.

Jokinen is struggling, his numbers have gone down each of the least 3 years, but would help our LW side. He has a cap hit of a million next season.

I think the Isles or someone above us would claim him.

J STaal jumps 2 mil next year. Skinner jumps near five mil. Semin stays. Carolina has a similar cap structure to our team.

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Jussi is an upgrade over Pyatt, who brings nothing but slow skating and thousand mile stare...
yea I would not claim Jussi straight up, rather deal him for a Pyatt or Boyle

At the same time maybe they can claim and just move one of those guys for a pick

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Jussi is an upgrade over Pyatt, who brings nothing but slow skating and thousand mile stare...
better than slow Boyle who tries to be tough but ends up embarassing himself

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everyone is saying Dan Boyle but I bet Sather trades for Cory Sarich.... Rangers can use an upgrade in the defensive dman department..


i can see something like Sarich + Glencross to NYR
Boyle, Thomas, Bourque and 3rd (FLA) to Flames



Rangers should claim Kaspars Daugavins and Jussi Jokinen and waive Pyatt
I honestly think Hamrlik has been more than serviceable on the bottom-pairing. Especially as he gets his legs under him. I don't see a guy out there who won't cost a ton being any better than Hammer.

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better than slow Boyle who tries to be tough but ends up embarassing himself
hope to see them both gone. The Irony between Boyle/Tortorella is interesting. Short lived success, worn out his welcome, stayed too long, ineffective....

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