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04-27-2013, 12:06 PM
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Great pick. Emery doing a fantastic job with this draft.

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04-27-2013, 12:08 PM
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You're on something if you think that one was a bad pick. He'll be a good strong side LB.
PFW has him graded as a 2nd to 3rd round pick. Says he'll be a will in a Tampa 2 scheme

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04-27-2013, 12:08 PM
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I see no defending this draft

Several horrid reaches and ignoring WR/TE/C needs

Roberto Garza isn't much of a player anymore ,, Need a guy for future as Garza is falling into Kreutz zone (Getting blown up often)

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04-27-2013, 12:10 PM
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OLB: Khaseem Greene, Rutgers, 6-1, 241, 4.67...Green rarely is mentioned in the same breath as Manti Te'o, Kevin Minter, Arthur Brown or Alec Ogletree as one of the elite linebackers of the 2013 class but I'm not sure why. He's the two-time defending Big East Defensive Player of the Year since making the transition to linebacker after starting all 12 games at free safety in 2010. Whereas most of the "elite" linebackers in this draft class talk about making big plays, Greene actually made them, playing a role in a staggering 19 turnovers (12 forced fumbles, six interceptions, one fumble recovery) over a remarkable career

STRENGTHS: Rare athleticism for the position. Possesses the agility and straight-line speed to elude blockers and beat backs to the edge. Showed improved patience and awareness in his second season at linebacker, rarely taking false steps and exploding towards the ball.
Reliable open-field tackler, generally wrapping both arms around the ballcarrier. Best trait might be his incredible ability to create turnovers. Rips violently at the ball as he makes tackles, showing excellent hand-eye coordination and impressive strength.
Times his blitz well, showing a quick burst to close. Fluid in coverage due to his experience at safety and possesses good ball skills. Shows some natural open-field running skills once the ball is in his hands, as well.

Good bloodlines. Is the half-brother of Pittsburgh running back Ray Graham, also expected to be drafted in 2013. Competitive. Served as a member of the punt and kickoff defense squads in 2012.

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04-27-2013, 12:11 PM
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I notce you only list strengths

Why don't you go ahead and list his weaknesses

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04-27-2013, 12:12 PM
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profil...ene?id=2539297

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Must look healthy this season after recovering from a broken right ankle in the team’s 2011 bowl game. Has a safety build, possessing average height and thinner lower body. Not the strongest or most physical tackler, most likely to dive towards ballcarriers’ feet than bring real impact. Overruns plays and gets lost in trash inside and lacks strength to take on blocks between the tackles. Hustle is hot and cold, will watch plays to opposite sideline instead of trying to get the angle to prevent the big play. Hands for the interception are only adequate, as he does not always make the moderately difficult catch away from his frame.

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Bottom Line
Greene appears to be a prototypical 4-3 weak-side linebacker. He has tremendous speed and athletic ability. One of the most intriguing aspects of Greene's game is how efficient he is as a blocker. He will struggle to work through traffic, and needs to be more physical at the line of scrimmage. While not as refined, Greene shares many similar traits with 2012 second-round pick Lavonte David, who was selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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04-27-2013, 12:13 PM
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I notce you only list strengths

Why don't you go ahead and list his weaknesses
I just cut and pasted it from someone, they didn't list them so I didn't.

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04-27-2013, 12:13 PM
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Bears drafted a weakside OLB in 2nd and 4th

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04-27-2013, 12:18 PM
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Bears drafted a weakside OLB in 2nd and 4th
Bostic can probably play all 3 spots. Greene hopefully can be Briggs full time replacement in a couple of years

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04-27-2013, 12:18 PM
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Bostic over Brown is fine by me. Still mad about not taking Eifert or Floyd over Long.

Green?? WHY???


I start to dislike Emery

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04-27-2013, 12:18 PM
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Wouldn't be so against this pick if we didn't draft a guy in round 2 (That Mayock who is to be viewed according to some posters as the only expert) who will not fit MLb and be a WLB

Bears drafted

G + WLB + WLB in this draft ,, Not good at all

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04-27-2013, 12:23 PM
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I'm calling for Emery being on the hot seat. Team needs to deliver and do it soon.

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04-27-2013, 12:24 PM
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I see no defending this draft

Several horrid reaches and ignoring WR/TE/C needs

Roberto Garza isn't much of a player anymore ,, Need a guy for future as Garza is falling into Kreutz zone (Getting blown up often)
See, comments like this is why nobody respects your opinion when it comes to the draft. Everyone knows you made up your mind about each of these players that were drafted by reading 1 article on the person, and picking out the weaknesses. When you say "I see no defending this draft", that's just an immediate "I've made my mind up, no matter what. I don't have an open mind".

How have you already made up your mind about this draft when you haven't seen anyone play? Of course there's no defending this draft yet, there's no defending any teams draft yet. We haven't seen any team's draft players play in the NFL yet. Even the teams you say are having good drafts, we can't judge yet, because they haven't played.

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04-27-2013, 12:27 PM
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We could have drafted Tavon Austin in the 4th round and BWC would still ***** about Emery and how terrible a pick it was.

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04-27-2013, 12:28 PM
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Bears drafting guys with big bust potential and reaching all over board the last 2 years is why I wont take Emery's drafting seriously

Maybe we get lucky and Greene turns out to be good like Jeffrey

But so far the drafting of Phil Emery has been worse then Jerry Angelo

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We could have drafted Tavon Austin in the 4th round and BWC would still ***** about Emery and how terrible a pick it was.
I would have been fine with any of the available WR's at #20 in 4th round

Bears have no WR depth

When Jeffrey and Bennett get hurt again we have nothing

And the Bears have been high on J.T. Thomas (Who they basically red shirted as a rookie) ,, What is his future with Bears now?


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04-27-2013, 12:39 PM
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J.T. Thomas was a 6th round pick. Those guys rarely stick around or are career special teams players.

Greene forced an NCAA record 15 fumbles at Rutgers

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04-27-2013, 12:41 PM
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I'm mad they didn't pick my guys, but I at least did my homework here...

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04-27-2013, 12:41 PM
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Bears have no WR depth

When Jeffrey and Bennett get hurt again we have nothing

And the Bears have been high on J.T. Thomas (Who they basically red shirted as a rookie) ,, What is his future with Bears now?
There aren't many teams that go 5 deep at receiver. If any team loses their 2 and 3 receivers, they'll be thin at the position.

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See, comments like this is why nobody respects your opinion when it comes to the draft. Everyone knows you made up your mind about each of these players that were drafted by reading 1 article on the person, and picking out the weaknesses. When you say "I see no defending this draft", that's just an immediate "I've made my mind up, no matter what. I don't have an open mind".

How have you already made up your mind about this draft when you haven't seen anyone play? Of course there's no defending this draft yet, there's no defending any teams draft yet. We haven't seen any team's draft players play in the NFL yet. Even the teams you say are having good drafts, we can't judge yet, because they haven't played.
There is no defending the 1st round picks of Phil Emery

Shea McCllelin was as much as disaster as expected ,, And several guys the Bears should have taken helped there teams (Bears got very little impact value from 18th overall)

Long has many red flags and was reach

I just want to be happy with a 1st round pick of the Bears ,, Is that to much to ask?

Outside of Harris , Urlacher and Conway the Bears 1st round drafting has been trainwreck all my life

It is unacceptable that the NFL's founding franchise continues to fail at the NFL draft

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04-27-2013, 12:42 PM
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There aren't many teams that go 5 deep at receiver. If any team loses their 2 and 3 receivers, they'll be thin at the position.
49ers have good depth at WR ,, Didn't stop them from drafting Patton here in 4th round

Bears have a

#1 WR (Marshall)
A young WR with #2 potential (Jeffrey)
# 3/4 WR who is always hurt (Bennett)
UDFA (Anderson)

No matter how you cut it that is some poor depth behind Marshall

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04-27-2013, 12:44 PM
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If Shea was the DPoY next year, BWC would still call him a bust.

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04-27-2013, 12:47 PM
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Almost the end of round 4.

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If Shea was the DPoY next year, BWC would still call him a bust.
Well that has no chance of happening

Cant be DPOY when your sitting on bench most of the game

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04-27-2013, 12:48 PM
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There is no defending the 1st round picks of Phil Emery

Shea McCllelin was as much as disaster as expected ,, And several guys the Bears should have taken helped there teams (Bears got very little impact value from 18th overall)

Long was reach

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None of this is correct.

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At least the Bears aren't in NFC West

Seahawks loading up via trade/FA
49ers loading up more at draft
Rams having another great draft

I don't see the Cards contending in that division for many , many years

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