HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Boston Bruins
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

2013 League Rumors/Trades/Signings Discussion IV

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-25-2013, 03:51 PM
  #351
patty59
***************
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lethbridge, Alberta
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,612
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDJ View Post
Here's a doozy of one I'm about to bring up. Even more of a doozy than Wideman.

Alexei Kovalev. More or less came out and said he didn't retire on his terms (FLA more or less pushed him out). Seems like he still wants to play. If we can't find decent value at the deadline, maybe we should get him for free and replace Pandolfo with him? From all accounts he is a liability 5 v 5 but is still good on the PP. Pandolfo is also a liability 5 v 5 but doesn't do **** else.

Maybe we just slightly upgrade our PP doing that. Plus, Julien did coach him I believe...

Can't believe I just said that
You should feel shame.

patty59 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:51 PM
  #352
KrejciMVP
Registered User
 
KrejciMVP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSCII View Post
This is why looking at nothing but stats instead of watching the actual games is always a bad thing. That and his ridiculous albatross of a contract that Calgary signed him to this off season.

pretty sure I've seen Wideman play before

KrejciMVP is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:52 PM
  #353
smithformeragent
Moderator
 
smithformeragent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester NH
Country: United States
Posts: 10,715
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to smithformeragent
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDJ View Post
Here's a doozy of one I'm about to bring up. Even more of a doozy than Wideman.

Alexei Kovalev. More or less came out and said he didn't retire on his terms (FLA more or less pushed him out). Seems like he still wants to play. If we can't find decent value at the deadline, maybe we should get him for free and replace Pandolfo with him? From all accounts he is a liability 5 v 5 but is still good on the PP. Pandolfo is also a liability 5 v 5 but doesn't do **** else.

Maybe we just slightly upgrade our PP doing that. Plus, Julien did coach him I believe...

Can't believe I just said that
Oh, did they shut him down? I was looking at his deal on capgeek and saw he played only about 12 games or something. He'd be a body at this point. Dunno that he's any better than a Caron at this point.

__________________
That's how it starts—the fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men… cruel.
smithformeragent is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:53 PM
  #354
Watch for the Yeti
Registered User
 
Watch for the Yeti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Swansea, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 8,476
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sevren View Post
Does not compute
????

Watch for the Yeti is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:53 PM
  #355
gillesgilbert
Registered User
 
gillesgilbert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 3,881
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheReal13Linseman View Post
I'd rather have Rex out of retirement, but neither's gonna happen...

My real point is that I don't see the Bruins as going far this season principally due to the play or Horton and Lucic. I don't think they have the desire to embark upon a SC campaign. And, we have too little talent on this team to compete for an SC.
I recall Horton being invisible for a long stretch during the regular season in which the B's won the Cup.He has been inconsistent since the B's acquired him.As frustrating as that is ,he also could get hot and score some big goals.

gillesgilbert is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:53 PM
  #356
Kate08
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Kate08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Medford MA
Country: United States
Posts: 18,005
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithformeragent View Post
They're first in goals against.
And you attribute that to the D-corps?

Kate08 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:53 PM
  #357
The Special K
Hoss MOFO, Hoss.
 
The Special K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Canal Winchester, OH
Country: United States
Posts: 3,341
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDJ View Post
Here's a doozy of one I'm about to bring up. Even more of a doozy than Wideman.

Alexei Kovalev. More or less came out and said he didn't retire on his terms (FLA more or less pushed him out). Seems like he still wants to play. If we can't find decent value at the deadline, maybe we should get him for free and replace Pandolfo with him? From all accounts he is a liability 5 v 5 but is still good on the PP. Pandolfo is also a liability 5 v 5 but doesn't do **** else.

Maybe we just slightly upgrade our PP doing that. Plus, Julien did coach him I believe...

Can't believe I just said that
No thanks man....we are not THAT desperate.

The Special K is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:54 PM
  #358
Ruzicka38
Oh man
 
Ruzicka38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hopedale
Country: United States
Posts: 1,725
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by patty59 View Post
No kidding

The ONE time Chiarelli makes some bold moves at the deadline and he cashes in on a Cup victory. He then follows it up with dollar store shopping and gets bounced in the 1st round.

It's not a coincidence.
The Bruins loaded up when they got Gonchar and Nylander. That did not work out well. It is not always so cut and dry.

Ruzicka38 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:54 PM
  #359
hopkinsj31
Registered User
 
hopkinsj31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Newfoundland
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,335
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDJ View Post
Here's a doozy of one I'm about to bring up. Even more of a doozy than Wideman.

Alexei Kovalev. More or less came out and said he didn't retire on his terms (FLA more or less pushed him out). Seems like he still wants to play. If we can't find decent value at the deadline, maybe we should get him for free and replace Pandolfo with him? From all accounts he is a liability 5 v 5 but is still good on the PP. Pandolfo is also a liability 5 v 5 but doesn't do **** else.

Maybe we just slightly upgrade our PP doing that. Plus, Julien did coach him I believe...

Can't believe I just said that
You think he would have retired if someone would've picked him up?

His agent contacted every GM that Alexei was willing to play for and they all said no thanks.

He's old, He sucks, and he probably has by far the worst attitude of anyone who has played anywhere near as many games as he has. I honestly could not think of a worst signing.

hopkinsj31 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:55 PM
  #360
hopkinsj31
Registered User
 
hopkinsj31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Newfoundland
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,335
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruzicka38 View Post
The Bruins loaded up when they got Gonchar and Nylander. That did not work out well. It is not always so cut and dry.
No ****. Peter Chiarelli wasn't the GM then either, which is the point he was making.

hopkinsj31 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:57 PM
  #361
MioneRask134
Queen in the North
 
MioneRask134's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hogwarts-617
Country: United States
Posts: 12,348
vCash: 500
I think Calgary is going to want A LOT for Iggy. And since he's unsigned I'm wary of that. (woops, just read Dom's tweet and and I think we've got the same idea)

Are any of you comfortable with giving away Koko, Spooner, Knight, and Subban. I'll rephrase this, are any of you comfortable giving away 2 or 3 of them, together? Cause I'm not. And if you read Dom's tweets, that's the sense I'm getting.

MioneRask134 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 03:57 PM
  #362
smithformeragent
Moderator
 
smithformeragent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester NH
Country: United States
Posts: 10,715
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to smithformeragent
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kate08 View Post
And you attribute that to the D-corps?
Yes. They are fortunate to have two anchors in Chara and Seidenberg that they can pair with whomever and be just fine. They get into trouble when they get penned in, like the third line was constantly the other night. Unfortunately, other than Hamilton, they don't get much offensively from the back end. Chara's point shot almost never hits the net. They are inept at moving the puck through the point on the power play. They need some help in that respect.

smithformeragent is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:00 PM
  #363
Kate08
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Kate08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Medford MA
Country: United States
Posts: 18,005
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithformeragent View Post
Yes. They are fortunate to have two anchors in Chara and Seidenberg that they can pair with whomever and be just fine. They get into trouble when they get penned in, like the third line was constantly the other night. Unfortunately, other than Hamilton, they don't get much offensively from the back end. Chara's point shot almost never hits the net. They are inept at moving the puck through the point on the power play. They need some help in that respect.
I know this isn't the place for this discussion so I'll say my piece and peace, but Chara and Seidenberg have not been playing up to their usual caliber. Defense has been a hallmark with this team in recent memory (even with Wideman), but this year something strange is afoot at the Circle K.

If they're going to add to the blue line, I hope it's for someone (significantly) more defensively sound than Wideman.

Kate08 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:04 PM
  #364
Dr Quincy
Registered User
 
Dr Quincy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Country: United States
Posts: 16,946
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithformeragent View Post
They're first in goals against.
Tied for 2nd actually. Ottawa has given up the fewest (per game). Boston has given up 3 less goals but has played 2 less games.

Dr Quincy is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:07 PM
  #365
smithformeragent
Moderator
 
smithformeragent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester NH
Country: United States
Posts: 10,715
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to smithformeragent
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Quincy View Post
Tied for 2nd actually. Ottawa has given up the fewest (per game). Boston has given up 3 less goals but has played 2 less games.
Ok, fine.

Point being, I don't think defense is the concern.

I think that the problem twofold.

1. The ineptitude of the 3rd line means that the Bruins no longer create match up problems for opponents.

2. The first line is consistently inconsistent.

So maybe Iggy IS the answer. I still think the price is very steep.

smithformeragent is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:07 PM
  #366
hopkinsj31
Registered User
 
hopkinsj31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Newfoundland
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,335
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mione134 View Post
I think Calgary is going to want A LOT for Iggy. And since he's unsigned I'm wary of that. (woops, just read Dom's tweet and and I think we've got the same idea)

Are any of you comfortable with giving away Koko, Spooner, Knight, and Subban. I'll rephrase this, are any of you comfortable giving away 2 or 3 of them, together? Cause I'm not. And if you read Dom's tweets, that's the sense I'm getting.
Absolutely. Any 2 of them and a first for Iginla.

Sometimes you need to take risks, Iginla has said he doesn't want to just be a rental, so you work on re-signing him after the playoffs. The guy is a stud. This is the going rate for a player of his calibre.

I mean, What do people expect Iginla is going to cost? We gave up Colborne(who was in the class with these guys 2 years ago), a 1st, and a 2nd for freaking Tomas Kaberle.

hopkinsj31 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:09 PM
  #367
PatriceBergeronFan
U.S. Army Hooah!
 
PatriceBergeronFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: USA
Country: United States
Posts: 14,445
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mione134 View Post
I think Calgary is going to want A LOT for Iggy. And since he's unsigned I'm wary of that. (woops, just read Dom's tweet and and I think we've got the same idea)

Are any of you comfortable with giving away Koko, Spooner, Knight, and Subban. I'll rephrase this, are any of you comfortable giving away 2 or 3 of them, together? Cause I'm not. And if you read Dom's tweets, that's the sense I'm getting.
As much as I'd like the Bruins to trade for Iginla, not a that price. Just sign him this summer and let Horton go if we need to.

PatriceBergeronFan is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:10 PM
  #368
Kaoz*
Ima Krejciist.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Country: Canada
Posts: 28,635
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mione134 View Post
I think Calgary is going to want A LOT for Iggy. And since he's unsigned I'm wary of that. (woops, just read Dom's tweet and and I think we've got the same idea)

Are any of you comfortable with giving away Koko, Spooner, Knight, and Subban. I'll rephrase this, are any of you comfortable giving away 2 or 3 of them, together? Cause I'm not. And if you read Dom's tweets, that's the sense I'm getting.
Yea I would, and if you can get a condition on the first even better (similar to the Kaberle condition).

Kaoz* is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:14 PM
  #369
smithformeragent
Moderator
 
smithformeragent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester NH
Country: United States
Posts: 10,715
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to smithformeragent
Stars looking to extend Jagr


http://www.defendingbigd.com/2013/3/...stars-contract

smithformeragent is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:14 PM
  #370
ranold26
Registered Loser
 
ranold26's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: 127.0.0.1
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,740
vCash: 500

ranold26 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:15 PM
  #371
Mike Yeos Eyebrows
Johnny Bran Muffins
 
Mike Yeos Eyebrows's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Fall River
Country: United States
Posts: 17,911
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithformeragent View Post
Stars looking to extend Jagr
Really don't think Jagr is or was ever one of the Bruins' targets.

Mike Yeos Eyebrows is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:19 PM
  #372
patty59
***************
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lethbridge, Alberta
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,612
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
Yea I would, and if you can get a condition on the first even better (similar to the Kaberle condition).
Ya, I'm not seeing the big deal with this. Iginla is the real deal. YOu can't be worried about trading potential 2nd and 3rd liners for a guy like Iginla.

patty59 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:20 PM
  #373
Baddkarma
El Guapo to most...
 
Baddkarma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Midland TX
Country: United States
Posts: 3,215
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Baddkarma
This just doesn't "feel" like a year the Bruins will make a serious run. Why give up Spooner, Koko, Subban, or Knight in a vein attempt to cure what is a sure sense of complacency around this team.

They are no longer a tough, physical, skilled team. They are team that avoids contact, skates by when they should lay a hit on the opposition, and is in love with the horizontal pass in the offensive zone rather than shooting the puck and crashing the net.

We are going to hear some valid and non valid excuses when it comes to this version of the Bruins: Short year, players didn't have enough time to find their games, there was a log jam of teams at the market that were buyers, etc. Get ready its coming.

Let this team see if it can find another burst of magic in the post season, if not use this off season to wheels and deal while finding replacements for Horton, Ferrence, and perhaps Peverly.

This team needs a couple years to restock the farm, this year is showing that there is little to no help down there...

__________________
Baddkarma is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:23 PM
  #374
MioneRask134
Queen in the North
 
MioneRask134's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hogwarts-617
Country: United States
Posts: 12,348
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by patty59 View Post
Ya, I'm not seeing the big deal with this. Iginla is the real deal. YOu can't be worried about trading potential 2nd and 3rd liners for a guy like Iginla.
I worry because realistically we're only getting a few years of Iggy that's IF he resigns. Where as our potential 2nd and 3rd liners, will be stars to come.

I'd give give them ONE of our top prospects, and a choice of a lesser one and a draft pick.

MioneRask134 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 04:26 PM
  #375
BNHL
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Boston
Country: United States
Posts: 14,322
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by whambamcam8 View Post
people also need to separate being a good deal for boston vs being a good deal for pittsburgh...bruins need an influx of talent, pens, character, they already have an abundance of talent.
yes!

BNHL is online now  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:03 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2015 All Rights Reserved.