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David Desharnais at the draft

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04-14-2013, 08:22 AM
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David Desharnais at the draft

A lot of Montreal fans (myself definitely included) have been frustrated with David Desharnais. With Plekanec, Galchenyuk and Eller, Montreal has plenty of top 6 centers, and with Gionta, Gallagher and to an extent Plekanec, we have enough smaller top 6 players.

What could Montreal get for Desharnais? Maybe combine him with one of our three second round picks for a first?

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04-14-2013, 08:40 AM
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A lot of Montreal fans (myself definitely included) have been frustrated with David Desharnais. With Plekanec, Galchenyuk and Eller, Montreal has plenty of top 6 centers, and with Gionta, Gallagher and to an extent Plekanec, we have enough smaller top 6 players.

What could Montreal get for Desharnais? Maybe combine him with one of our three second round picks for a first?
I would love to see him traded in a package for a top 4 defenceman. He's signed to a cap-friendly salary, can still put up 40-50pts. I'd say he and a late pick could be traded to a team in desperate need of centers for a mid-late 1st round pick. He's offensively talented but doesn't really fit into the Habs system at the moment.

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Let me break it to you gently. No one will give up much of significance for a short top 2 centre no matter his offensive upside except as maybe a rental. He is a great hockey player but he is a tough sell.

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Let me break it to you gently. No one will give up much of significance for a short top 2 centre no matter his offensive upside except as maybe a rental. He is a great hockey player but he is a tough sell.
It's all about organizational needs. Not to say they're at the same level but, Derek Roy's been traded for pretty good returns. If a team needs an offensive centreman and they have several defensive defenceman, Desharnais could be an option. Don't know if he's anyone's first option but I don't think the Habs would be expecting the world for him either. I think a lot of good 'hockey deals" could be made around him.

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It's all about organizational needs. Not to say they're at the same level but, Derek Roy's been traded for pretty good returns. If a team needs an offensive centreman and they have several defensive defenceman, Desharnais could be an option. Don't know if he's anyone's first option but I don't think the Habs would be expecting the world for him either. I think a lot of good 'hockey deals" could be made around him.
Roy had four 60+ point seasons, he`s small but he has a good reputation. Desharnais isn't there yet, he could be one day but not yet.

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You aren't going to package desharnais with a 2nd to get a 1st.

Who would want to do that? Who is so sold on DD? Lol

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A lot of Montreal fans (myself definitely included) have been frustrated with David Desharnais. With Plekanec, Galchenyuk and Eller, Montreal has plenty of top 6 centers, and with Gionta, Gallagher and to an extent Plekanec, we have enough smaller top 6 players.

What could Montreal get for Desharnais? Maybe combine him with one of our three second round picks for a first?
Didn't he just get a longterm extension?

It's unlikely the Habs gm trades him, just months after extending his contract.

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Roy had four 60+ point seasons, he`s small but he has a good reputation. Desharnais isn't there yet, he could be one day but not yet.
yea just that Roy is going to be UFA end of this year and hes 29yrs old.
DD is 26yrs old and made his 60 points with Cole and Pacio having his
1st season. Now he's playing with a rookie in Gallagher and Pacio but
they aren't playing too well this year. Derek Roy had Briere in his prime
days and he also had Pominville and Vanek. players like that are better
than Cole and Gallagher... maybe Pacio is equal to 2 of them but i think
Briere, Vanek were better back in the day compared to Pacio last year.
idk if you give Briere and Vanek to Desharnais if he would make more
points then he is now..

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Sorry Habs, you're stuck with him. 4 years at that cap hit, enjoy. You might get a B/C prospect + 3rd.

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04-14-2013, 11:15 AM
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Winnipeg only has 6 forwards signed for next year.

How about?

Desharnais
Kristo
Cgy's 2nd rnd pick

for

Byfuglien

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Winnipeg only has 6 forwards signed for next year.

How about?

Desharnais
Kristo
Cgy's 2nd rnd pick

for

Byfuglien
if Byfuglien comes to montreal Pacio and a 1st rounder is going back to Jets

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04-14-2013, 12:07 PM
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Yeah, I figured people would say something like that.

What about:

Desharnais
1st in 2013
1 of (Beaulieu, Tinordi, Kristo)

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You aren't going to package desharnais with a 2nd to get a 1st.

Who would want to do that? Who is so sold on DD? Lol
Are you actually that clueless or are you being sarcastic? Montreal's 2nd rounders are potentially around #33, #39 and #55. You wouldn't take a 50pt centre as well as a top 40 pick for something around 15-30? Just about any regular NHL player that plays in a top-9 and an early 2nd would get you into the 1st round. I'm pretty sure any team that needs to improve their offence, or needs another look on offence would do that.

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I could see Desharnais getting a 3rd round pick back, maybe. It's just in front of the UFA fireworks, though, and several teams will have the cap coming down on them. If they want to upgrade, they will want to bid on FAs who are taller first. Or maybe consider some buyout reclamations at bargain prices. So maybe the Habs wouldn't be able to deal Desharnais at all.

Which is fine by me. He's a good little player, and even if the "little" part makes him a slightly square peg fit for the Habs, the bottom line is that he is good and gives us some good production and a consistent work ethic. He's worth the salary on the new contract he signed. Even if his trade value is likely nil (especially at the draft).

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Sorry Habs, you're stuck with him. 4 years at that cap hit, enjoy. You might get a B/C prospect + 3rd.
The truth.

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I really don't understand why they extended him for years. Eller is going to better, Plekanec already is and they have Galchenyuk. Weird move from Bergevin

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Yeah, I figured people would say something like that.

What about:

Desharnais
1st in 2013
1 of (Beaulieu, Tinordi, Kristo)
the thing is, the 1st and one of those prospect have a limited amount of value.
Jets would want a proven player and extra. its gotta be
Desharnais + Eller or Pleky + Beaulieu or 1st rounder. nothing less.

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I really don't understand why they extended him for years. Eller is going to better, Plekanec already is and they have Galchenyuk. Weird move from Bergevin
i agree. with Larsy and Chucky as our top 2 being bigger younger
and better(especially defensively). also with Pleky being better aswell..
i don't know what hes thinking but next year DD is gonna have to move
down and what the **** will he do on the 4th line?

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i agree. with Larsy and Chucky as our top 2 being bigger younger
and better(especially defensively). also with Pleky being better aswell..
i don't know what hes thinking but next year DD is gonna have to move
down and what the **** will he do on the 4th line?
I dont think Eller, Plekanec, Galchenyuk or DD will play on the fourth line. One will move/stay at wing. I honestly hope he's traded for a defenceman or as part of a package to move up in the draft. Would you rather have one of those four at wing or a guy like Clowe? No brainer to me. His offensive production will be made up elsewhere on the roster.

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I dont think Eller, Plekanec, Galchenyuk or DD will play on the fourth line. One will move/stay at wing. I honestly hope he's traded for a defenceman or as part of a package to move up in the draft. Would you rather have one of those four at wing or a guy like Clowe? No brainer to me. His offensive production will be made up elsewhere on the roster.
I had to go puke before I can repost on this, are you serious ''Clowe'' ?

let's bring back Erik Cole with that.

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I had to go puke before I can repost on this, are you serious ''Clowe'' ?

let's bring back Erik Cole with that.
Hey now, brings a lot more to the wing position than just scoring. Like Clowe meaning; big, tough and scoring potential. Not saying he's ideal, just a UFA.

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Sorry Habs, you're stuck with him. 4 years at that cap hit, enjoy. You might get a B/C prospect + 3rd.
3.5 for a guy who should average 50 + points isn't all that bad. Johansson might use that as a basis for his next contract.

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I dont think Eller, Plekanec, Galchenyuk or DD will play on the fourth line. One will move/stay at wing. I honestly hope he's traded for a defenceman or as part of a package to move up in the draft. Would you rather have one of those four at wing or a guy like Clowe? No brainer to me. His offensive production will be made up elsewhere on the roster.
as long as Chucky plays at center next year i really don't care where
DD plays if he's on the team. but i do agree that i'd rather trade him
and get higher in the draft and having Clowe in the team.
Eller and Chucky can't play at wing next year.

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To Chicago:
David Desharnais

To Montreal:
Bryan Bickell
3rd round pick 2014(2nd round if Blackhawks make Conference Finals)

Thats the best value Montreal would get for him IMO.

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To Chicago:
David Desharnais

To Montreal:
Bryan Bickell
3rd round pick 2014(2nd round if Blackhawks make Conference Finals)

Thats the best value Montreal would get for him IMO.
Bickell's UFA is he not?

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