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04-02-2005, 10:25 AM
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Edmonton - Buffalo Proposal

To Edmonton: Daniel Briere
To Buffalo: Eric Brewer

Oilers need a C, Sabres need a D. What do you think? Would someone have to add something? Maybe Oilers add Horcoff and Buffalo adds a winger?

 
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To Edmonton: Daniel Briere
To Buffalo: Eric Brewer

Oilers need a C, Sabres need a D. What do you think? Would someone have to add something? Maybe Oilers add Horcoff and Buffalo adds a winger?
Not nearly enough from Buffalo plus Edmonton already has a Briere type player in York.

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In my opinion Buffalo would have to add something, maybe a 3rd or a decent prospect (no bluechipper). As much as I like Briere, he is not a legit number one center, the Oilers would want more in return.

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Not sure how Briere can't be a number 1 centre, he had the 11th most points as a center last year, ahead of Weight, Morrison Arnott.

 
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Don't see the Sabres trading Briere. He has a lot of value with Buffalo. Decent centers are few and far between in this organization.

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Not sure how Briere can't be a number 1 centre, he had the 11th most points as a center last year, ahead of Weight, Morrison Arnott.
points aren't everything.

Daniel Sedin was 12th in the league among left wingers last season in points - ahead of Zednik, Shanahan, Frolov and others... is he considered a legit #1 LW?

I'd take Morrison in a second over Briere... he's as strong a defensive player for us as he is an offensive one and has been clutch for us, being our best playoff performer as well... Arnott brings a lot more intanigbles than Briere does, and Weight (salary notwithstanding) is a more proven #1 than Briere is.

Briere is a decent top 6 center, but I don't see him as a #1 on a contender.

As for the Brewer option here.. I wouldn't even consider it if I were Edmonton. Brewer is their #1 dman, is young and still getting better, and the Oilers defense isn't exactly that deep to begin with.

I think the Oilers will address their center issues via free agency.

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Yuck, I wouldn't even look at this if I was the Oilers. Briere's play apparently improved by leaps and bounds when he joined Buffalo but there would need to be a lot more coming back to the Oilers to convine them to trade Brewer. Someone like Jason Smith or Steve Staios could be potentially moved in a deal like this if Lowe can't find a centerman through free agency but not Brewer unless it's a true number one guy coming back.

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Yuck, I wouldn't even look at this if I was the Oilers. Briere's play apparently improved by leaps and bounds when he joined Buffalo but there would need to be a lot more coming back to the Oilers to convine them to trade Brewer. Someone like Jason Smith or Steve Staios could be potentially moved in a deal like this if Lowe can't find a centerman through free agency but not Brewer unless it's a true number one guy coming back.
Exactly.

Lowe won't trade for a center that's under 6', and he espeacilly won't trade his best defenseman for a guy that is that big of a risk. If Brewer moves, it means that there's a lot coming back to Edmonton.. and Briere isn't the answer.

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To Edmonton: Daniel Briere
To Buffalo: Eric Brewer

Oilers need a C, Sabres need a D. What do you think? Would someone have to add something? Maybe Oilers add Horcoff and Buffalo adds a winger?


why would BUF trade their top goal scorer?

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I see this as a no-go for both teams. Brewer has a whole lot more trade value than Briere, I'm sure. However, unless we replace Briere, he is OUR #1 center (whether a legit #1 center or not). He's our leading scorer and at this point a very important part of our team. He forms the leadership core with Drury and Hecht.

He certainly isn't irreplaceable or untradeable, but in this trade Edmonton would want a lot more and we wouldn't be willing to give all of that up.

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Not nearly enough from Buffalo plus Edmonton already has a Briere type player in York.
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Buffalo needs Briere's offense.

Better off filling in their holes in D by way of the UFA market.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Newsflash Man
To Edmonton: Daniel Briere
To Buffalo: Eric Brewer

Oilers need a C, Sabres need a D. What do you think? Would someone have to add something? Maybe Oilers add Horcoff and Buffalo adds a winger?
pouliot, schremp and whoever else already in the farm and could be better then briere, why trade away ur "best" defensemen for something you dont need

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pouliot, schremp and whoever else already in the farm and could be better then briere, why trade away ur "best" defensemen for something you dont need
Your point about Pouliot and Schremp is highly debatable.

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Your point about Pouliot and Schremp is highly debatable.
No, it's not. They could theoretically be better than Briere. It's not debatable unless you are saying it's impossible for either of them to end up better than Briere.

It would certainly be debatable to say they likely will be better than Briere.

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No, it's not. They could theoretically be better than Briere. It's not debatable unless you are saying it's impossible for either of them to end up better than Briere.

It would certainly be debatable to say they likely will be better than Briere.
Theoretically.

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Not for Brewer. Staios or Smith more likely, although I'd rather one of them be packaged off with another player for a good sized Center.

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Not nearly enough from Buffalo plus Edmonton already has a Briere type player in York.
exactly...we need a Thornton-type center (hint-hint K Lowe ) not another Comrie-type player

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First of all, I see Briere as a player who is probably more valuable to his current team than as trade bait on the open market (like Moreau is to Edmonton.) That being said, Brewer is probably worth more than Briere, even if Buffalo WAS willing to trade Briere. However, the Oilers have shown and stated that they do not want another small centre. Otherwise they would have tried to keep Comrie, or drafted Zach Parise. Their biggest requirement is a centre with size. Trades involving guys like Handzus make more sense because of his size and the fact he is playing on a team that is deep at centre.

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Brewer = franchise defenseman.

Briere = 2nd tier center


Need I say more?

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Given the lack of scoring in the NHL last year, I'd say that 28 goals could be considered #1 center material.

I think he is more ideally suited for second line duty than first line duty, but he could definitely be the #1 in many cities in the NHL.

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The Oilers would more likely sign a free agent if they can. Brewer won't be involved in any deal for a top line center.

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How about

To Edmonton: Legwand, Hall

To Nashville: Brewer, Laraque, third

I'm not a fan of either team and the value could be off but i think a deal with this as the basis could work. Edmonton would have a decent group of forwards and they could roll four lines with getting contributions from each. Nasville would be able to boast one of the best young defense corps in the league with Brewer, Zidlicky, Timonen and Hamhuis.

Edmonton
Smyth - Legwand - Dvorak
Torres - York - Hemsky
Moreau - Horcoff - Hall
Isbister - Stoll - Pisani

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How about

To Edmonton: Legwand, Hall

To Nashville: Brewer, Laraque, third

I'm not a fan of either team and the value could be off but i think a deal with this as the basis could work. Edmonton would have a decent group of forwards and they could roll four lines with getting contributions from each. Nasville would be able to boast one of the best young defense corps in the league with Brewer, Zidlicky, Timonen and Hamhuis.

Edmonton
Smyth - Legwand - Dvorak
Torres - York - Hemsky
Moreau - Horcoff - Hall
Isbister - Stoll - Pisani
I think Nashville has a bigger need in Legwand then they would in Brewer... while Brewer is worth more on the market, Nashville doesn't have any depth at center to be able to move their top centerman, while having depth on defense, and some nice youngsters already developing (Suter, Weber, Klein).

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